Actually the article supports the delivery, I was wondering why there place they were landing (in the vid)at didn't have pallets of supplies on the lawn.
Haitian airport backlog- what's your suggestion?
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I know you're not saying that the Hatians can't be left to their own devices because they are incapable, but someone else may read it like that ES. I know that if a disaster were happening here I would want my own government handling things. Maybe if there is anything worse than machete wielding thugs in your hood it might be machine gun wielding soldiers instead.
The article indicated the troops were dropped off there and they were headed over to secure some hospital nearby. Somebody must have been there some time ago to lock the gates to keep the people on the outside of the fence.
I think at this point they are incapable. Not every nation is smooth running...take Somalia for example. How did the Somalis handle UN Supplies before security went in?
If a disaster struck Canada, the government of Canada is very well capable of handling a crisis.
I bet that is on one side of the street were Haitians with machetes and the other were US Soldiers...you'd cross to the US side in a second.
Those choppers may have a 9000 lift capacity but add troops,armaments and fuel and they are probably loaded and you dont want to load to the max if you dont have to and especially if theres no wind,more wind and the more you can lift,you also need to be set up for slinging and that means a bubble window for the pilot which greatly cuts back on your top speed.
I imagine the heat also plays into it as choppers heat up very quickly when slinging.
We move the drills up north by chopper and it's very dicey and dangerous,thats why you were never allowed to have any passengers while slinging.
I imagine the heat also plays into it as choppers heat up very quickly when slinging.
We move the drills up north by chopper and it's very dicey and dangerous,thats why you were never allowed to have any passengers while slinging.
What do you do
If the airports are jammed and you can get a boat in there then my suggestion would be to contact the CEO of BC Ferries and get him to donate a couple of boats and pay for it out of his wallet. Im not saying that to be a smart as either. If they can afford to build them overseas then they can afford to donate. Don't you think?
If the airports are jammed and you can get a boat in there then my suggestion would be to contact the CEO of BC Ferries and get him to donate a couple of boats and pay for it out of his wallet. Im not saying that to be a smart as either. If they can afford to build them overseas then they can afford to donate. Don't you think?
I imagine the logistics guys that are there are some of the best and doing what they can with what they have.
They could allways build an airstrip if the ground is hard enough,a herc doesnt need pavement to land but it will need at least 1000 meters to land safely fully loaded.
I've built runway on the lake ice for one of those first air hercs and they can fly in allmost any conditions and can pack sea cans which when offloaded can allways be then used as temporary shelters or 100 other things.
They could allways build an airstrip if the ground is hard enough,a herc doesnt need pavement to land but it will need at least 1000 meters to land safely fully loaded.
I've built runway on the lake ice for one of those first air hercs and they can fly in allmost any conditions and can pack sea cans which when offloaded can allways be then used as temporary shelters or 100 other things.
Chavez being opportunists?? Wake up. There is a shortage of diesel fuel, and it was announced today that Chavez was sending hundreds of barrels of diesel fuel. Check your facts.
And took the opportunity to make statements about the Americans occupying Haiti. He, like many ignorant Canadians, is apparently unaware that soldiers are not only trained to fight wars, but to bring in disaster relief. Were you not taught to look before you leap? :roll:
Once again, you have nothing worthwhile to say. He is sending fuel, which is badly needed. What don't you understand??
whoopee, he made an anti-american speach. So what. That is expected from him. But he is also helping out.
The thing is Tonnington is Chavez realizes that with all his boasting he can't really do as much to help his Caribean "friends" as he would like to think. He is p***** seeing all this help coming from the US and he is unable to do anything but whine. People aren't paying attention to him.
Got any links from a US news source that mentions Cuba's help?
France had something to say about the us troops, don't see any threads about them being 'evil sob's'.
"The French minister in charge of humanitarian relief called on the UN to "clarify" the American role amid claims the military build up was hampering aid efforts.Alain Joyandet admitted he had been involved in a scuffle with a US commander in the airport's control tower over the flight plan for a French evacuation flight.
"This is about helping Haiti, not about occupying Haiti," Mr Joyandet said.
Geneva-based charity Medecins Sans Frontieres backed his calls saying hundreds of lives were being put at risk as planes carrying vital medical supplies were being turned away by American air traffic controllers.
But US commanders insisted their forces' focus was on humanitarian work and last night agreed to prioritise aid arrivals to the airport over military flights, after the intervention of the UN.
The diplomatic row came amid heightened frustrations that hundreds of tons of aid was still not getting through. Charities reported violence was also worsening as desperate Haitians took matters into their own hands."
US accused of 'occupying' Haiti as troops flood in - Telegraph
France had something to say about the us troops, don't see any threads about them being 'evil sob's'.
"The French minister in charge of humanitarian relief called on the UN to "clarify" the American role amid claims the military build up was hampering aid efforts.Alain Joyandet admitted he had been involved in a scuffle with a US commander in the airport's control tower over the flight plan for a French evacuation flight.
"This is about helping Haiti, not about occupying Haiti," Mr Joyandet said.
Geneva-based charity Medecins Sans Frontieres backed his calls saying hundreds of lives were being put at risk as planes carrying vital medical supplies were being turned away by American air traffic controllers.
But US commanders insisted their forces' focus was on humanitarian work and last night agreed to prioritise aid arrivals to the airport over military flights, after the intervention of the UN.
The diplomatic row came amid heightened frustrations that hundreds of tons of aid was still not getting through. Charities reported violence was also worsening as desperate Haitians took matters into their own hands."
US accused of 'occupying' Haiti as troops flood in - Telegraph
Maybe US controllers should just suspend American flights for a while, then order in the dozers after all the "me first" fellahs have sorted themselves out.
This field doesn't have a lot of capacity
This field doesn't have a lot of capacity
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Serco is one of if not the biggest logicistic and security control firm on the globe. Disasters like this is just their thing. What we term as "aid" is just a loan to pay for contractors like Serco who can set up ATC on the spot or build a runway in a day or two.
They do what military engineers and seabies used to do.
The Brit version of KBR. Not that good of rep but that a whole other topic.
YouTube - Serco