Gun-toting woman divides community
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..and if you really researched, you'd find that it didn't have alot to do with "gun control", but the murder rate had a very high relation to alcoholism
A great mix. A drunk with a gun. What do you think happens?
Which is why the high murder rate there hasn't thrown national statistics completely out of kilter.
Doesn't change a thing, though.....a culture of murder exists in that area....because of all the continuing problems of the native populations: alcoholism, drug abuse, disintegrating family structure, hopelessness, poverty, joblessness.......sounds just like the Barrio, or the ghetto, doesn't it?
Take the guns away, they'd kill each other with hatchets.
"A culture of Murder??"
Hmmm. It must be a viral phenomenom as it didn't exist there 100 yrs ago.
alcoholism, drug abuse, disintegrating family structure, hopelessness, poverty, joblessness
based on who's yardstick? Theirs?
just like the Barrio, or the ghetto, doesn't it
That's a stretch and a half. Are you comparing Nunavet to Jane and Finch in Tarawna?
Do you ever think that the cultural has evolved that way since the advent of the gun and alcohol?
So, I'm curious, where do you get the idea that murder rates were lower 100 years ago??????
Yes, BTW, I am comparing Nunavut to Jane & Finch. Exactly the same problem: a culture of violence based on all the problems I listed above.
BTW, Jane and Finch's troubles stem mostly from the Jamaican population. The murder rate in Jamaica is 35 per 100,000, more than 13 times ours, and 5 times that of the USA. All guns in Jamaica were seized in the late 70s and dumped into the sea.
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I wouldn't say no danger at all...negligible danger maybe...
Probably statistically similar to the chances of being killed by terrorists...
Police have a reason to carry guns...in exercising their public duty they are sometimes put in a position where there lives are in danger because of civilian assholes who think they need to carry guns...
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Take away the reasons for people to feel they need firearms as weapons rather than tools, and they probably won't feel the need to use them as weapons.
I find it odd that she feels the need, or desire, to take it to soccer games. The coaches that I know of would probably have you banned from the soccer field for that, as it is completely unnecessary. Sure, it's her right to carry it. It's also the right of other people to ban guns from their premises.What's even funnier is that she finds all the fuss is hurting her babysitting business. I wonder why?
By "tools", I assume you mean for hunting, which I can agree with...but I doubt there'll ever be a time in our future where firearms are considered tools only...
But this woman packing her Glock is not using this as a tool...she's using it for intimidation and as a deterrent...
She is using it as a threat to those who she supposes would harm her, she's screaming loud and clear "**** with me and you get the Glock"
I don't like to be screamed at, or threatened, even if just metaphorically, so I would kick her in the yap and take her Glock...
Maybe start a collection of my own...
This irritates the hell out of me.....does that mean I have some inherent right to kick your teeth down your throat just to shut you up?
No......because you have a right of free speech.
Likewise, she has a right to defend herself, and to bear arms to do so.......
therefore your fantasy threat to kick her in the face is way outta line.
Besides, you go around attacking armed people and you are going to get a 6 inch hole blown through your 5 inch neck, and deservedly so......
she's obviously unbalanced and a threat to those around her.
My questions is why this wingnut is taking up so much space
My questions is why this wingnut is taking up so much space
That is what I meant by the term, yes. There are a great many things around that aren't used for beneficial purposes. Fortunately the vast majority are.
Then you would be adding fuel to the fire, wouldn't you? It would likely result in some gorilla in the crowd to kick you in the face and take the Glock from you.
Pa is a "shall issue" state. That means that with minimum requirements met (a course on gun handling and self-defence law and a background check) the government must issue the person a licence to carry a handgun concealed. There are 37 states with such laws. In two states, no licence is required.
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She is far from a wingnut.....she is simply doing what millions of Americans do on adaily basis. The wing nuts are the ones crying because she exercises her rights.
hehe I think some of the people that made them "rights" had no idea that they would be so misused.
At least everyone can see she has a gun. I would be more concerned about all the ones who do keep their handguns hidden. How do you know they have a permit or are even allowed to own a gun? I would bet a paycheque that no criminals have permits for their concealed guns.
That may be true, but there are certain places that a gun should not be carried around(in view or hidden) even if it is legal. A soccer game is one of them.
Why? You think soccer games are exempt from attacks by loonies?
The administration of Virginia Tech thought schools were an inapproprite place for guns, and banned them on-campus. Virginia is a "shall issue" state, but none of the student permit-holders were allowed to have their guns.....so they were walking targets......
"Allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths. If those states which did not have right to carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes and over 60,000 aggravated assaults would have been avoided yearly." -- Professor John R. Lott, Jr., and David B. Mustard, University of Chicago.
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No, but it is MY right to feel that there are certain places a gun should not be carried.
We can go round and round with topics like this, but we will never convince the other that our opinions are the correct ones. I am enjoying the debate though.:smile:
ETA: If students were allowed to carry guns to school at Virginia Tech, how would the average student know who the "bad guys" were if they all carried one? Once the bullets started flying, people would start shooting at anyone else shooting. Who knows? Even more people may have died that day. This goes for any school shooting.
We can go round and round with topics like this, but we will never convince the other that our opinions are the correct ones. I am enjoying the debate though.:smile:
ETA: If students were allowed to carry guns to school at Virginia Tech, how would the average student know who the "bad guys" were if they all carried one? Once the bullets started flying, people would start shooting at anyone else shooting. Who knows? Even more people may have died that day. This goes for any school shooting.