Federal Carbon Tax ruled to be constitutional
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On the PLUS SIDE - and yes there is one - its just not very large nor easily seen - Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral losers
WILL ALSO BE RECEIVING THEIR ANNUAL PAY RAISES this spring as usual - right after putting up the carbon SCAM price!
Is that likely to endear Our idiot Boy to the general public?
Or make it even harder for his minority govt to survive past spring budget time in 2021?
I predicted the idiot BOY would see the end of his career in 2021 and I stand by that prediction!
And of course LIE-berals plan pay raises in spring 2021 as well! THERE IS NO END TO LIE-beral GREED!
Didn't help not 1 Lib. MP West of Winnipeg and East of Vernon, plus the election was called before our voices were even heard.
Canada’s carbon tax increasing April 1 despite coronavirus economic crunch
Will the plan to break the Western spirit work?
Will the plan to break the Western spirit work?
Oh Moose......you think the West is angry? Picture Our idiot Boy coming to Ontari-owe and telling a COUPLE OF MILLION civil
service union HOGS that they will have to drive an electric TOY car with IFFY range to their summer palace!
Because the idiot Boy has BANNED gas powered machines!
Not to mention the HIGH price tag for such an electric TOY and the SWIFT deterioration of the battery!
And consider that while the HOGS are there at the summer home - they WILL NOT be permitted to operate ANY of their favorite gas powered TOYS if Our idiot Boy succeeds in driving up the price of fossil fuel so high that we cannot afford to use it!
Think of it! NO more skidoos, no more atv`s, no more propane powered ice augers, no more SeaDoos, no more water skiing
and no more tubing and anybody who wants to go fishing had better put away the 150hp bass boat and get out a CANOE PADDLE!
Not to mention that all those HOGS who want their vacation in some sunny place in January would have to drive or take a bus or something wildly inconvenient of that sort!
Then add in the SCREAMING of all the people who LIVE Off selling and repairing all the gas powered toys!
The LIE-beral party is going to NEED EVERY PENNY OF OIL REVENUE it can get - for MULTIPLE GENERATIONS
to dig us out of that LIE-beral created DEBT that they piled up BEFORE breaking the bank on Wuhan VIrus!
One MUST CRINGE at the thought of how much suffering and how much expense could have been AVOIDED
if LIE-berals had closed the borders 6 weeks sooner AND dealt more effectively with travelers at our airports!
The LIE-beral party and its idiot policies are drying up and turning to DUST!
And relief will come to Alberta in time!
Relief is one thing, and it has strings attached, having a voice is another, which is what we want in this country.
That’s because you guys insist on having a social con as leader. How about you just let the fringe just slither off and die.
Nope all we're interested in is a party willing to listen to us, started with the NDP they went off track then we sent the Reform party now they are hijacked by the Old Con. party. Nobody is really stepping up for the West right now WEXIT ain't it, but maybe the vessel to send a message. Possibly back to voting for the Rhino party just to spoil the vote for all.
Scheer lost because he's a social con and the Lib war room used it against him perfectly.
Trudeau should have lost.
But like I said, separate if you don't like the facts.
I'm tired of the snivelling.
I've said this in here before. I had a friend who was a Professor of Economics. Here's what he said; "If you ask three economists the same question, you'll get 4 different answers. And the key word in your comment is "can". Can does not necessarily equal "do" or "does".
There's high taxes on tobacco. At least 17% of the country still smokes. There's high taxes on alcohol. Hasn't ended alcoholism or drunk driving. The price of gas in Canada has almost quintupled since I started driving, most of that in the form of taxes. And yet there's more cars on the road than ever.
The City of London, England instituted a new tax (fee) for driving a motor vehicle in the downtown core area. The idea was to reduce congestion and thus reduce emissions in the heart of the city. The idea worked, for a while. At first people balked at the idea of paying just to drive downtown but after a while they decided the convenience was still worth the cost. As such, congestion is pretty much back to where it was before the fee.
The carbon tax is just another one of those taxes. It won't change people's behaviour so much as it will make sure there's no further investment in our resource sector. Keep in mind that about 70% of Canada's GDP comes from resource extraction and exports. Seems kind'a stupid and short sighted to put so much effort into killing that sector off before finding a viable replacement. We've already taken a shit kicking from the US auto industry, let's not be in such a rush to kick the shit out of our own resource sector.
I do appreciate your sentiment Moose - but it does not work that way!
You cannot negotiate anything in this economic climate!
And Alberta is SURROUNDED by "others"!
It is to be hoped that enough cdns get raging mad at the foolishness of LIE-berals that they will choose to vote!
It is that lazy, stupid, whiny, ignorant SILENT MAJORITY that is killing Canada!
Their silence ALLOWS LIE-berals to get elected!
There is a PLUS SIDE to this Wuahn Pestilence- that it is going to make such a GOD AWFUL MESS
that there will be NO GRAVY LEFT for shameless LIE-beral vote buyers!
AND we both know they cannot be elected without BRIBERY!
^^^^^ Part of the sentiment that is apart of the problem, I don't read you saying the same thing about Quebec? Why is it that Canada only cares as far as Ont. and Que. allows the country to care?
Define Fringe please? Is that the part of Canada and what they want from the western 1/2 of Ontario going west? Is the Fringe the Party with the most votes in the last Federal Election in Canada & the people that voted for it?
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LINK: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex...truction?__vfz=medium=conversations_top_pages
Canada needs to become more secure by becoming more self-sufficient. In a new series, the Post examines how a country made wealthy by globalization and trade can also protect itself against pandemics and other unknown future shocks to ensure some of our immense resources and economic power are reserved for our own security.
It has always been true that a country is most secure when its functioning is least contingent on external sources. To the degree that it is possible, to provide for itself all which is necessary for that functioning, is an undebatable proposition.
It’s as old as the fine axiom of “stand on your own two feet.” Others’ limbs will not support you when it most matters. But here in Canada we have displaced that idea, shackled those industries central to the country’s capacity to own itself. And we have neglected and even disparaged the most central enterprises, diminished the respect for enterprise itself, leaving us open and vulnerable to factors over which we have no influence.
Canada has almost all it needs. But the country, or more properly its government, has disconnected from priority concerns to become preoccupied with issues over which it has no real influence. Drop the nonsense preoccupations that distract or supersede from our real interests, for example, that seat on the UN’s useless security council, and drop specifically this idle idea that we can change the planet’s climate in 2100.
As said, we are providentially supplied with massive natural resources. Yet, we have hamstrung the most fundamental of our industries, put it under the most specious of restraints, collapsed a central sector, one absolutely vital to a modern economy. The energy industry has been made a pariah, and mining next to energy, absent both of which the world cannot function. The fact that the bountiful resources of a whole province are landlocked is and has been a true national scandal. It defies reason itself.
The stability of our economy should not be shackled to the noxious policies of Russia and Saudi Arabia, nor should the thousands of workers in the energy and mining sectors be cast aside for the delusive and worrisome ambitions of international and national pressure groups organized around global warming. Our economy, post-COVID-19, will need to run on every cylinder, and after years of undermining these central industries, we will painfully taste the harvest of this lunatic obsession.
It is also repellent — though I will save this for a future column — that global warming zealots are aligning the pandemic with their obsessional cause, suggesting outright that the shutdown of the world’s economies, (“degrowth” is now a catchword in their bulletins) should be seen as a model for fighting, as they term it, dreaded climate change.
Environmentalism is a detractive enterprise. It is a self-wound to the idea of national self-sufficiency.
For the most pertinent illustration of this we have the April 1st decision to raise the carbon tax. What in the world is this government thinking imposing a fresh tax on fuel in the middle of an economic and health crisis? Our entire economy is nearly in paralysis, hundreds of thousands, even millions of Canadians are under the whip of economic devastation, the country is going into massive debt.
Who with the wit of a stone or a heap of moss thinks this is the time for a new tax on a necessity? Who thinks that raising the price of gasoline for the truckers who keep the supermarkets stocked, kerosene for farmers who are coping with a wet harvest, or fuel for any business that happens to still be trying to operate, is an idea whose time has come?
The first step to real self-sufficiency is to get off the treadmill of what John Kenneth Galbraith called “conventional wisdom.” To get to self-sufficiency, go first to our farmers, elevate their concerns and voices in our national councils. I am so pleased to have met or talked to so many of them during the past few years. Wives and husbands, small farmers and big, and a more pleasant and admirable people I do not know. They have been perpetually in a bind, perpetually the last in line for news stories (a pronoun fool will get more time on the National than a small farmer worried about the carbon tax) and the most reluctant to ask for help. This element of reticence in so sturdy a people, as so violently in contrast to shallow social justice warriors. Their dignified reluctance to whine, marks them as adults, people who have faced real challenges but even in the hardest of times guard their dignity. But did anyone, before this crisis, listen to them?
Of course not. Bring on the carbon tax. Let’s find some new way to make things harder for those who are producing the most essential element in human life: food. Has the Sierra Club plans we haven’t yet heard of for filling the grocery shelves of Canada during COVID-19?
In the complacency of our long uninterrupted prosperity we have forgotten, and in some cases, demeaned the people and activities that secured that prosperity, those essential activities and industries that have enabled the great balance of the Canadian way. Those who have dirty faces and grimy hands after a day’s work are the spine of the rest of us’s comforts. And elements of the “better” classes have been and are demeaning them, and remain ignorantly unaware that their petty status depends on those who do what I regard as genuine work.
The central systems and programs of Canada are intimately related to the best economy the nation can provide. We must repel any ideology or external cause that advocates injuring the country’s economy as a worthy, even necessary goal.
A country is the willingly compliant and co-operative project of its citizens, always attendant to the welfare of its own citizens as its commanding priority. Diversion from that goal is false and enervating show-politics. It usually is the fruit of those who have never tasted the biweekly or monthly cheque as their lifeline, or held a tenuous employment in whatever they do.
They mistake their own exemption from economic precariousness for the natural state of everyone else. This is the idiocy of self-absorption. It is also a deeper ignorance: the wage earners keep the rest of society moving. From plumber to oil worker, to the man who cleans the gutters, the unheralded are, along with our professionals in health and other areas, the most necessary among us. Self-sufficiency means recognizing this and supporting them.
Take care first of your own citizens, which means limiting the contingencies of external dependence. Provide those citizens with what can best be hoped for in security of food, technology, energy and a functioning economy — and then in times of crisis such as we are now experiencing we will at least have the strongest shield possible for our collective well-being.
Canada needs to become more secure by becoming more self-sufficient. In a new series, the Post examines how a country made wealthy by globalization and trade can also protect itself against pandemics and other unknown future shocks to ensure some of our immense resources and economic power are reserved for our own security.
It has always been true that a country is most secure when its functioning is least contingent on external sources. To the degree that it is possible, to provide for itself all which is necessary for that functioning, is an undebatable proposition.
It’s as old as the fine axiom of “stand on your own two feet.” Others’ limbs will not support you when it most matters. But here in Canada we have displaced that idea, shackled those industries central to the country’s capacity to own itself. And we have neglected and even disparaged the most central enterprises, diminished the respect for enterprise itself, leaving us open and vulnerable to factors over which we have no influence.
Canada has almost all it needs. But the country, or more properly its government, has disconnected from priority concerns to become preoccupied with issues over which it has no real influence. Drop the nonsense preoccupations that distract or supersede from our real interests, for example, that seat on the UN’s useless security council, and drop specifically this idle idea that we can change the planet’s climate in 2100.
As said, we are providentially supplied with massive natural resources. Yet, we have hamstrung the most fundamental of our industries, put it under the most specious of restraints, collapsed a central sector, one absolutely vital to a modern economy. The energy industry has been made a pariah, and mining next to energy, absent both of which the world cannot function. The fact that the bountiful resources of a whole province are landlocked is and has been a true national scandal. It defies reason itself.
The stability of our economy should not be shackled to the noxious policies of Russia and Saudi Arabia, nor should the thousands of workers in the energy and mining sectors be cast aside for the delusive and worrisome ambitions of international and national pressure groups organized around global warming. Our economy, post-COVID-19, will need to run on every cylinder, and after years of undermining these central industries, we will painfully taste the harvest of this lunatic obsession.
It is also repellent — though I will save this for a future column — that global warming zealots are aligning the pandemic with their obsessional cause, suggesting outright that the shutdown of the world’s economies, (“degrowth” is now a catchword in their bulletins) should be seen as a model for fighting, as they term it, dreaded climate change.
Environmentalism is a detractive enterprise. It is a self-wound to the idea of national self-sufficiency.
For the most pertinent illustration of this we have the April 1st decision to raise the carbon tax. What in the world is this government thinking imposing a fresh tax on fuel in the middle of an economic and health crisis? Our entire economy is nearly in paralysis, hundreds of thousands, even millions of Canadians are under the whip of economic devastation, the country is going into massive debt.
Who with the wit of a stone or a heap of moss thinks this is the time for a new tax on a necessity? Who thinks that raising the price of gasoline for the truckers who keep the supermarkets stocked, kerosene for farmers who are coping with a wet harvest, or fuel for any business that happens to still be trying to operate, is an idea whose time has come?
The first step to real self-sufficiency is to get off the treadmill of what John Kenneth Galbraith called “conventional wisdom.” To get to self-sufficiency, go first to our farmers, elevate their concerns and voices in our national councils. I am so pleased to have met or talked to so many of them during the past few years. Wives and husbands, small farmers and big, and a more pleasant and admirable people I do not know. They have been perpetually in a bind, perpetually the last in line for news stories (a pronoun fool will get more time on the National than a small farmer worried about the carbon tax) and the most reluctant to ask for help. This element of reticence in so sturdy a people, as so violently in contrast to shallow social justice warriors. Their dignified reluctance to whine, marks them as adults, people who have faced real challenges but even in the hardest of times guard their dignity. But did anyone, before this crisis, listen to them?
Of course not. Bring on the carbon tax. Let’s find some new way to make things harder for those who are producing the most essential element in human life: food. Has the Sierra Club plans we haven’t yet heard of for filling the grocery shelves of Canada during COVID-19?
In the complacency of our long uninterrupted prosperity we have forgotten, and in some cases, demeaned the people and activities that secured that prosperity, those essential activities and industries that have enabled the great balance of the Canadian way. Those who have dirty faces and grimy hands after a day’s work are the spine of the rest of us’s comforts. And elements of the “better” classes have been and are demeaning them, and remain ignorantly unaware that their petty status depends on those who do what I regard as genuine work.
The central systems and programs of Canada are intimately related to the best economy the nation can provide. We must repel any ideology or external cause that advocates injuring the country’s economy as a worthy, even necessary goal.
A country is the willingly compliant and co-operative project of its citizens, always attendant to the welfare of its own citizens as its commanding priority. Diversion from that goal is false and enervating show-politics. It usually is the fruit of those who have never tasted the biweekly or monthly cheque as their lifeline, or held a tenuous employment in whatever they do.
They mistake their own exemption from economic precariousness for the natural state of everyone else. This is the idiocy of self-absorption. It is also a deeper ignorance: the wage earners keep the rest of society moving. From plumber to oil worker, to the man who cleans the gutters, the unheralded are, along with our professionals in health and other areas, the most necessary among us. Self-sufficiency means recognizing this and supporting them.
Take care first of your own citizens, which means limiting the contingencies of external dependence. Provide those citizens with what can best be hoped for in security of food, technology, energy and a functioning economy — and then in times of crisis such as we are now experiencing we will at least have the strongest shield possible for our collective well-being.
Perhaps it's a bit of that and a lot of this: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/showthread.php?t=166740&highlight=trudeau+media
More of the latter. Just watch Scheer try to answer the questions about gay marraige and abortion. He failed and then lost. As far as media being propped up I’m not in favour of it at all.