Day of prayer is unconstitutional

[coldstream]

That's right, prayer in fact bypasses Church and State and is direct communion with God. No one can be forced to pray, but no one can be prevented from doing so either.

Prohibiting the government from sponsoring a day of prayer, as we've seen them sponsor 'Pride Day' events and other abominations, is absurd. In fact it fits into the political agenda of the Church of Atheism.. which is becoming de facto, a branch of the U.S. State.

 

[Tonington]

That's right, prayer in fact bypasses Church and State and is direct communion with God. No one can be forced to pray, but no one can be prevented from doing so either.

So having a government sponsored day of prayer is irrelevant then...those who pray will pray when they want, not because the government says they should on any one day.

Those don't pray will do as they would on any other day.

 

[AnnaG]

That's right, prayer in fact bypasses Church and State and is direct communion with God. No one can be forced to pray, but no one can be prevented from doing so either.

Then it can be quietly with no particular schedule, right, so as not to influence others by your praying?

Prohibiting the government from sponsoring a day of prayer, as we've seen them sponsor 'Pride Day' events and other abominations, is absurd. In fact it fits into the political agenda of the Church of Atheism.. which is becoming de facto, a branch of the U.S. State.

Then it can sponsor the Islamic call to prayer, the Shinto burning of incense, etc., too.

 

[ironsides]

Schools even banned "moment of silence", what chance did "day of Prayer" have. I agree with the Judge.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

... Atheist (yes, it IS a religion)...

Sure, and unemployment is a job and bald is a hair style.:roll:

 

[Tonington]

Sure, and unemployment is a job and bald is a hair style.:roll:

You may get some that bite on that Dex, as unbelievable as that should be...

 

[YukonJack]

"Sure, and unemployment is a job and bald is a hair style."

Sure, generation after generation of welfare recipients DO consider unemployment a job.

Also, lot of clever people make money serving vain bald people, making tupees, wigs and hair transplants.

 

[ironsides]

The First Admendment to the U.S. Constitution reads as follows.

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment refers to the first of several pronouncements in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, stating that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Together with the Free Exercise Clause ("... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"), these two clauses make up what are commonly known as the "religion clauses" of the First Amendment.
The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference of one religion over another. The first approach is called the "separation" or "no aid" interpretation, while the second approach is called the "non-preferential" or "accommodation" interpretation. The accommodation interpretation prohibits Congress from preferring one religion over another, but does not prohibit the government's entry into religious domain to make accommodations in order to achieve the purposes of the Free Exercise Clause.

The clause itself was seen as a reaction to the Church of England, established as the official church of England and some of the colonies, during the colonial era.

 

[DaSleeper]

Atheist (yes, it IS a religion)

It sure is......

I would even go so far as to say it is "An organized religion"

With a membership, Secret password and all.
If they have Bingo on Wednesday night...... Im in

American Atheists | Welcome

 

[Tonington]

I guess the Tea Party must be a religion too...

 

[DaSleeper]

I guess the Tea Party must be a religion too...

Does it have a secret handshake???;-)

 

[Tonington]

It's not on video...

 

[taxslave]

As a Rastafarian am I then permitted to smoke a joint before work? Or do I have to wait until I get home?

 

[ironsides]

I guess the Tea Party must be a religion too...

As are all political parties by your definition.

 

[ironsides]

As a Rastafarian am I then permitted to smoke a joint before work? Or do I have to wait until I get home?

If you can braid your hair and go years without undoing it and washing it, then I guess you deserve your joint to protect you from the world you have growing in there. May Bob Marley rest in peace.

 

[theconqueror]

Who was that lady that applied to the U.S. Supreme Court that said "One Nation Under God" was unconstitutional?

 

[ironsides]

Who was that lady that applied to the U.S. Supreme Court that said "One Nation Under God" was unconstitutional?

Could be this guy.
Michael Arthur Newdow (born June 24, 1953) is an American attorney and emergency medicine physician. He is best known for his efforts to have recitations of the current version of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools in the United States declared unconstitutional because of its inclusion of the phrase "under God". He also filed and lost a lawsuit to stop the invocation prayer at President Bush's second inauguration[1][2][3] and, most recently, he filed a lawsuit to prevent references to God and religion from being part of President Obama's inauguration.
Newdow is an atheist and an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church.[4] In 1997, he started an organization called FACTS (First Amendment Church of True Science), which advocates strong separation of church and state in public institutions.[5]

I guess being a atheist is being part of a organized religion.

 

[theconqueror]

Could be this guy.
Michael Arthur Newdow (born June 24, 1953) is an American attorney and emergency medicine physician. He is best known for his efforts to have recitations of the current version of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools in the United States declared unconstitutional because of its inclusion of the phrase "under God". He also filed and lost a lawsuit to stop the invocation prayer at President Bush's second inauguration[1][2][3] and, most recently, he filed a lawsuit to prevent references to God and religion from being part of President Obama's inauguration.
Newdow is an atheist and an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church.[4] In 1997, he started an organization called FACTS (First Amendment Church of True Science), which advocates strong separation of church and state in public institutions.[5]

I guess being a atheist is being part of a organized religion.

nope. I think she was from somewhere like Washington.. I'll check.

 

[theconqueror]

Ahh who cares.. There are so many people sueing over the Pledge of Allegiance in the U.S. being unconstitutional.. Who do they think they are anyway? A theocracy form of government?

Reaction was quick and largely negative to a federal appeals court decision Wednesday declaring that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools is unconstitutional. A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in California ruled that saying the Pledge is unconstitutional because the "under God" portion added by Congress in 1954 improperly endorses religion. The 2-1 ruling stunned politicians and outraged religious groups. "This decision is directly contrary to two centuries of American tradition," Attorney General John Ashcroft said. "The Justice Department believes in the right of Americans to pledge allegiance to their flag and is evaluating the appropriate response."

 

[Cliffy]

As are all political parties by your definition.

Politics is religion to those who take it seriously. You even have those who are fanatical about it and those who are not so enthusiastic. The same goes for a lot of sports. Religion has always been about politics; organization and control of thought. The Catholic Church had it's own army at one time and even waged war. The Swiss Guard are one of the most efficient military units around.

If you look at it from a detached perspective, it is really difficult to tell them apart. Both have their propagana machines, laws and enforcement, taxation (tithing), hierarchies and edifices. In the States, you even refer to your prez as the supreme commander. Is that much different than a supreme being? Even the language of politics smacks of religion.