Interesting that you use the word "guilty" there. Is your view of human sexuality really as bleak and condemnatory as your posts here seem to indicate?
There's where we fundamentally disagree. It's religion that says lust is a sin, and it's religion that defines what sin means. I have no religion, and I have no use for it, I think it's a dangerous and foolish delusion that paralyzes the mind. It's a powerfully effective guilt factory that seems designed to make us all feel bad about ourselves. It tells us we're all wicked and sinful and not worthy to gather the crumbs from god's table, but he's such a nice guy and loves us so much he'll let us do it anyway. I have only contempt for it. The notion of sin has no reference in reality for me, because however it's defined, it can ultimately only mean something that offends god's sensibilities. I have no belief in any god, so the idea makes no sense to me. Sin in my view is just something that offends the sensibilities of a bunch of uptight repressed ignorant old men in funny clothes, and I can't take it, or them, seriously. Lust is not a sin, it's a normal part of being human, and none of us would be here without it. There are appropriate and inappropriate ways to express it, but in itself there's nothing wrong with it.... lusting is a sin...
So you have sex with test tubes?
Yeah I do. And apparently some people have, more or less. I've read tales of people who've castrated themselves to spare themselves lust, though I've no idea how much credence I should give to them. But considering the cults of self-flagellation I know exist, I've seen videos of people whipping themselves until they bleed, such self-mutilation doesn't seem much of a stretch. Religion can make people do a lot of stupid things.Dex,
Don't you wonder sometimes why people who think lust is a sin don't just cut their dicks off?
The notion of sin has no reference in reality for me,
Dex,
Don't you wonder sometimes why people who think lust is a sin don't just cut their dicks off?
Yes, I've done that twice that I know of, I still feel a keen regret and sorrow about those events, and I've tried to patch them up as best I could, but some things you really can't fix. But those weren't sins. They were just mistakes, errors in judgment, failures to understand something. We all do such things and carry the burdens of them, and I simply cannot see how some deity forgiving me for them lets me off the hook. It doesn't help the people I wronged, so to me it means nothing. The wrong still exists. It's relationships with people, not some fictitious deity, that matter.The only possible argument I can then make is to appeal that you think about the time in your life when you seriously wronged some one.
lol Definitely 100% effective if you can find one to fit. lolWell, I hope I learned a few things in the last fifty years.
Test tubes - The ultimate condom!
Canadian society doesn't well prepare one for cultures more accepting of nudity. Granted, it doesn't really bother me I am fully supportive of the right to be naked, but walking onto a GermanWings flight and seeing that the cover of the inflight magazine was a nude made me do a double take.
I know what you mean Niflmir. I am pretty open about notions surrounding sex and nudity by Canadian standards, but, seeing a father snapping pictures of his daughters on the beach in Nice totally creeped me out.
I put the word "sin" into my dictionary. It makes reference to "transgression". So, I typed in transgression. It says - the synonym for transgression is "breach". You are only guilty of 2 transgressions or breaches? Doesn't matter how you say it. A sin is a sin or a transgression or a breach. A big breach or a tiny breach - is still a breach. There are signs that say "no trespassing". We all know that means don't step over the line on that property. The Lord's Prayer - "Forgive us our trespasses". In other words, our sins, our transgressions, our breaches.Yes, I've done that twice that I know of, I still feel a keen regret and sorrow about those events, and I've tried to patch them up as best I could, but some things you really can't fix. But those weren't sins. They were just mistakes, errors in judgment, failures to understand something. We all do such things and carry the burdens of them, and I simply cannot see how some deity forgiving me for them lets me off the hook. It doesn't help the people I wronged, so to me it means nothing. The wrong still exists. It's relationships with people, not some fictitious deity, that matter.
That's pretty much how I interpret the word "sin", too. My view is that if I have performed a sin, I don't ask for forgiveness from some imaginary being; I ask for forgiveness from whomever that I "sinned" against. Or if no other person was involved, I need to forgive myself.I put the word "sin" into my dictionary. It makes reference to "transgression". So, I typed in transgression. It says - the synonym for transgression is "breach". You are only guilty of 2 transgressions or breaches? Doesn't matter how you say it. A sin is a sin or a transgression or a breach. A big breach or a tiny breach - is still a breach. There are signs that say "no trespassing". We all know that means don't step over the line on that property. The Lord's Prayer - "Forgive us our trespasses". In other words, our sins, our transgressions, our breaches.
Terrible thing, seeing a fella taking pics of his kids at the beach. lol
My wife wanders around her flower gardens in her naturals. Well, except for shoes and sometimes gloves when she is fussing with her roses. Our kids were almost always nude around home. Mind you we never lived in a neighborhood where there were pervs on the loose. We rarely even locked our doors.
I understand what you are saying and I have no arguement with you. Personally, I am a christian. If I have wronged someone, I need them to forgive me first. Then I need to forgive myself and I do that by asking God to forgive me. To me, there is no point in asking God to forgive me if I don't truly feel remorse and if I don't truly feel remorse then I have no right to go to God with expectations of forgiveness. I also believe you only feel true remorse and expect to forgive yourself if you fully intend to never commit the sin, transgression or whatever word you want to use, ever again.That's pretty much how I interpret the word "sin", too. My view is that if I have performed a sin, I don't ask for forgiveness from some imaginary being; I ask for forgiveness from whomever that I "sinned" against. Or if no other person was involved, I need to forgive myself.
ome people put themselves through all kinds of hell after doing something nasty. They need no god to do that for them, nor do they need a god to tell them it's ok.