CFB Trenton Commander Charged with Murder
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Yeah. I finally read that link to the end. The death penalty under military law hung ;-) around for a while but it was abolished.
Well said, RCS. Some people are more than willing to blame the military for pukes like this when in actual fact, as you say, monsters pop up in all areas of life.
I will also take this opportunity to personally thank you for your service to our country. :canada:
The military is a barrel of sorts. The barrel is thinking about state sanctioned death events that may be tainted by this accused officer.
Thank you for standing up for the CF, aman. And thank you for your service on behalf of our country. :canada:
What are you saying DB? Our soldiers go where the elected officials send them and they sometimes shoot people. It has always been that way.
Well, while part of me wants to agree with you due to the fact that I know so many wonderful soldiers, both presently serving and retired, I also suspect that there are bound to be more men like this in the army, police forces, etc., than there are in the general public. Just like pedophiles tend to be drawn to positions of authority, men like this are too.
While the whole organization can not be painted with the brush that defines this monster, I hope it does make them aware of the risk that he is not as isolated an incident as we may wish he were, because of the uniform, and the power it carries.
I'm saying that our military is very much more sensitive to the publics perception at this time and in this particular military adventure, known as TWOT, then it was in any of the other seen to be official engagements of the last century.The information highway has changed that. I am certainly not suggesting any lines be drawn between the psycopathic acts of one member and the whole military.
The military already knows that lines will be drawn by the events and it will defend itself accordingly. How they do that will reflect on every service member active or retired. It is very very important to get the messaging correct or the armed forces will suffer further closeup eyeballing.
I agree, it is authority of office that hides heinous crimes. Positions of authority within institutions are coveted by the psycopathic community.
Ditto.
I don't wish all military to be point people for IED hunting in Afghanistan, just this one and others like him (if he did what he's accused of).
Without knowing any of the evidence against Col. Williams, but assuming there is a substantial amount of evidence implicating him, i'll make one prediction.
Williams apparently spent much of his time during the week alone at his cottage, visiting his wife at the their Ottawa home on weekends. My prediction is that on his home computer in Trenton the police will find numerous subscriptions and downloads of hard core Bondage and Dominance sites.
It's not the first instance that extreme pornography has elicited some material, violent, acting out response to deeply suppressed impulses, overcoming all constructive compensations, which would have to be there for a high ranking military officer.
For that reason i think they will NOT find a trail of similar victims in his past. Something triggered an obsession that was largely moribund and inactive until last year.
Williams apparently spent much of his time during the week alone at his cottage, visiting his wife at the their Ottawa home on weekends. My prediction is that on his home computer in Trenton the police will find numerous subscriptions and downloads of hard core Bondage and Dominance sites.
It's not the first instance that extreme pornography has elicited some material, violent, acting out response to deeply suppressed impulses, overcoming all constructive compensations, which would have to be there for a high ranking military officer.
For that reason i think they will NOT find a trail of similar victims in his past. Something triggered an obsession that was largely moribund and inactive until last year.
Ya think so? Wouldn't it be easier and more logical to ask around and see if there were other warning signs years ago such as kicking the dog just for the sake of kicking the dog.
Murders become murders years and years before they ever murder.
Murders become murders years and years before they ever murder.
I tend to agree. We have uncovered only a small part of Russ William's life and in that small part there are two murders and two violent assaults. Who knows what else will be revealed when we open it further. This man differs from the likes of an Olsen or a Bernardo because he is vastly more intelligent and he had the advantage of high rank.
Intelligence and power are indicators too. He didn't get ahead by being an average nice guy. To rise that high in the creme you gotta be ruthless and uncaring to begin with.
Most crazys and killers that go crazy are of extreme high intelligence.
I would tend to disagree with this analysis because it is very stereotypical. Statistically I am willing to bet the the military per capita has a far lower rate then general society.
He is an isolated incident in that he is very likely a sociopath who just happened to choose this career path and could have easily been an investment banker, a politician or a factory worker. Those who have military friends still feel somewhat like outsiders because of the general comradiery found both in families and comrades.
This does not mean they are really any different and this Colonel is a shining example as to how a predator can melt into a community undetected. My original post came as an opposite reaction to some media clips I saw from the folks in Belleville.
One person said. "They're supposed to protect us."
Another proclaimed. "How did they allow this man to get where he was."
That reaction is one based on ignorance of the military community. While some might think the military made Colonel into a killer or at least gave him a hiding place while he developed his taste for murder. This reaction is simply visceral and based in ignorance.
Another point about him, and I'm sure Juan will back me up on this, is that he was a career air force man. A pilot and an administrator that, while trained in regard to combat, was unlikely to see any action that might turn him mean. Knowing who he is and his poition I would say that the single Afghan medal on his chest came from serving at camp mirage in Dubai.
Considering that the military is presently prosecuting one of its own for the dispatching of a mortally wounded Taliban on the battle field I hardly think they are playing a shell game with pedophiles, violent offenders or even serial killers.
Final thought. A military base is a community just like 100 Mile House or Brantford Ontario. In these communities there are people who exhibit faults and misdeeds, but by and large the majority are descent people. The uniform does not make the individuals in these communities any different than you or I, unfortunately it becomes a focal point when something like this does happen.
To the credit of the media I am pleased so far with their tempered response, but if the body count rises I worry that someone with an axe to grind may try and exploit it for the sake of politics or a scoop.
M