CBC fires Jian Ghomeshi

[Dexter Sinister]

Celebrities, especially young attractive ones, attract all kinds of weirdos, and the mass media are always inclined to go into a frenzy over it. I'm not going to believe any allegations against Ghomeshi until there's hard forensic evidence that legitimate authorities think is sufficient to prosecute him, and he's found guilty by due process. "just sayin'" to me means you're prepared to take unproven hearsay and innuendo seriously enough to let them destroy a man's reputation on the flimsiest of evidence. That's not thinking clearly.

 

[damngrumpy]

This is clearly not all that clear. I like his program and he is as far as I can tell pretty open
about it. Read it a few times and distinguish a few facts. He talks about unconventional
activities and kinky stuff. At a couple of places their is a soft creep of a hint of violence
that reoccurred. What was the nature of the violence? After all he told us everything else.
Why not just complete the sentences. If these are police matters why has no one even
contacted them? Why in some cases have people even agreed to be forthcoming and
retract what they did say? I am not saying there is no case here, I 'm just pointing out
even by the alleged victims actions there appears to be no case.
The media did some background and found apparently there is no story just kinky people
in a bedroom. My God if they published everyone's fantasies people would be hiding
under their beds for weeks. It would seem that on or under or around the bed is where
the problems started.
Funny how society works now a days the CBC may find itself with a much bigger backlash
for firing him than if they waited for the facts to be made clear.

Question did anything illegal happen? If it did and media had the story as they demonstrate
they did why didn't it see print? Why was there no outcry from electronic media?
Don't get this powerful people thing going either, Rob Ford was high profile we heard everything
from drugs to peeing in the street

The constitution says you can be kinky if its consensual if its not its a crime
if it was consensual they had no business firing him
if it was criminal the media covered it up the police did nothing and well you know about
conspiracy theories.
I suggest this story is likely generated by the freelance writer and the ex girlfriend and the
police were never made aware, and not bring a criminal act forward suggests there was no crime
The media looked into it and decided there was no story
the CBC turned up their noses and decided the show host was not one of them and fired him
The problem is without more interaction we don't know who's short with truth
and lord knows I for one don't want a bedroom play by play
There is a lot more we will hear like it or not

 

[WLDB]

Talk about kicking a man when "he's down"

Yeah, even if you hate the guys guts an want to destroy him did they have to do it right after his father died? Thats really twisting a knife.

 

[JLM]

Yeah, even if you hate the guys guts an want to destroy him did they have to do it right after his father died? Thats really twisting a knife.

There's a lot of A$$holes who have no compassion. Sometimes it's about money, sometimes it's about power, sometimes it's about jealousy, but they are still A$$holes!

 

[Liberalman]

rough sex does not sell

 

[55Mercury]

dude's got over 85000 likes in less than a day.

bad move, CBC

 

[mentalfloss]

I liked the show and this was clearly a PR move.

I will never be able to 'get' BDSM or violent sex but that was his choice.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure what the 'right thing' would have been to do, but I do not see why CBC could not fire him over this, considering he is a public figure and this is bad PR.

I would not assume what they did was illegal, unless we have been provided a reason to think otherwise.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Would Gomeshi be accurately described as liberal?

 

[JLM]

Would Gomeshi be accurately described as liberal?

Yeah, I doubt if he's an old school Tory!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yeah, I doubt if he's an old school Tory!

I have no idea. Never heard (saw?) the man. Just noticing an odd alignment of the usual suspects here.

 

[Cannuck]

I have no idea. Never heard (saw?) the man. Just noticing an odd alignment of the usual suspects here.

Everybody that works for the CBC is a liberal. So everybody that is right of centre is obligated to hate him...or admit to not knowing who he is. I've listened to the show (although not regularly) and have no idea what the man's political slant is. I'm not sure it's relevant when you are interviewing Johnny Reid.

 

[DaSleeper]

I had to google his name when I read the OP, watched part of one of his shows on youtube, and came to the conclusion that I hadn't missed much......

 

[Locutus]

I suggest this story is likely generated by the freelance writer and the ex girlfriend and the
police were never made aware, and not bring a criminal act forward suggests there was no crime
The media looked into it and decided there was no story

ahem

Why the Star chose to publish Jian Ghomeshi allegations

Jian Ghomeshi’s Facebook statement Sunday night notes that “a major Canadian media publication did due diligence but never printed a story” about what are alleged to be Mr. Ghomeshi’s abusive sexual practices.

This is true. That “major Canadian media publication” was the Star.

Mr. Ghomeshi further wrote “one assumes (the Star) recognized these attempts to recast my sexual behaviour were fabrications.”

The Star began working on this story in May. The Star’s Kevin Donovan interviewed four women who detailed what they said was sexual abuse. None filed police complaints and none would agree to be identified in a story.

Mr. Ghomeshi wrote Sunday night that “I have always been interested in a variety of activities in the bedroom but I only participate in sexual practices that are mutually agreed upon, consensual, and exciting for both partners.”

The reason The Star did not publish a story at that time was because there was no proof the women’s allegations of non-consensual abusive sex were true or false. They were so explosive that to print them would have been irresponsible, and would have fallen far short of the Star’s standards of accuracy and fairness.

In view of Mr. Ghomeshi’s extraordinary statement on Facebook on Sunday evening, and his high public profile in Canada, we now believe it is in the public interest to detail those allegations, which appear to have led directly to his sudden firing from the CBC.


Why the Star chose to publish Jian Ghomeshi allegations | Toronto Star

Yeah, even if you hate the guys guts an want to destroy him did they have to do it right after his father died? Thats really twisting a knife.

He told us this happened long before his dad died, so did the 4 other women. Jian published the 'story' likely at the behest of Navigator.

The police, courts, and media will help finish it.

 

[JLM]

I had to google his name when I read the OP, watched part of one of his shows on youtube, and came to the conclusion that I hadn't missed much......

No you probably wouldn't find anything earth shattering, mostly just interviewing old celebrities, like Joni Mitchell.

 

[Cannuck]

 

[WLDB]

Would Gomeshi be accurately described as liberal?

Further left probably. He has called Jack Layton a mentor. Either way he seemed to be a fair and balanced interviewer who was good at hiding his own opinions outside of his opening essays on each show.

 

[Locutus]

this has nothing to do with left/right or kink.

his preemptive bedroom stories aside, these 4 women might be making sh!t up but really, why? after the first one did and was raked over the internet coals a year ago? I doubt it.

time will tell.

 

[petros]

Happy Monday

 

[Locutus]

Doug Ford!

great weather for us to get out for our walk to the polls.


now back to the jian messy show:


The Facebook statement smacks of a "crisis management" public relations move. It attempts to paint the incident as, at a time of great personal grief and loss, the CBC firing him for his tastes in the bedroom. Whether it was constructed with the help of a PR firm or not, it certainly appears to be working.

I am not by any means saying that Ghomeshi is guilty or that his statement is less than true, but it troubles me that people are willing to take his word for it, without feeling the need for any additional information.

Liking 'Q' Isn't a Good Enough Reason to Side With Jian | Justin Beach

 

[Cannuck]

this has nothing to do with left/right or kink.

his preemptive bedroom stories aside, these 4 women might be making sh!t up but really, why? after the first one did and was raked over the internet coals a year ago? I doubt it.

time will tell.

Right or left view is irrelevant to the story. The fact that some that identify themselves as right of centre seem almost gleeful or pretend they don't know who the guy is rather amusing.