Catholics blame Woodstock for abuse!!

gerryh

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You're right, and since I don't molest children and would never cover up for anyone who did or help them continue by providing them with new victims and take responsibility for my actions without making excuses I can judge the catholic church against that and hold them in the highest contempt.

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Un fu cking believable. So you are accusing the Holy Roman Catholic Church of providing pedophiles with "new victims" and you are completely ignoring what changes the Church has made.
 

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Un fu cking believable. So you are accusing the Holy Roman Catholic Church of providing pedophiles with "new victims" and you are completely ignoring what changes the Church has made.

So when they knew a priest was doing this and hid it and moved him to a new parish without telling the new parishoners what would you call it. I call it a fresh new crop of victims.
 

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So when they knew a priest was doing this and hid it and moved him to a new parish without telling the new parishoners what would you call it. I call it a fresh new crop of victims.


Are they still doing that? No! They are not. But why would you care about that. Why would you worry about the truth when you prefer to propagate that hate through lies.
 
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Un fu cking believable. So you are accusing the Holy Roman Catholic Church of providing pedophiles with "new victims" and you are completely ignoring what changes the Church has made.

And those changes are what? Trying to BS us into believing that a 3 day party in the late 60s caused all the pedophile priests in the last several hundred years? Cult followers may be that stupid but the rest of are not.
 

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And those changes are what? Trying to BS us into believing that a 3 day party in the late 60s caused all the pedophile priests in the last several hundred years? Cult followers may be that stupid but the rest of are not.


Again, didn't read the fu cking report, did ya. The report does NOT say that a "3rd party" was responsible for sweet fu ck all.
 

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Gee, would it ever help if someone actually READ the study. But of course, then it would be a lot more difficult to display your complete l ignorance and your prejudice, wouldn't it?

In fact, homosexuals very rarely are involved in child sexual abuse. Less that 1/2 of 1 percent of child abusers are homosexuals. But heck,. why let fact's stand in the way of your stupidity!

Once more, the ignorant have their chuckles, about a subject that they know absolutely nothing about.

Gee, would it ever help if someone actually READ the study. But of course, then it would be a lot more difficult to display your complete l ignorance and your prejudice, wouldn't it?

In fact, homosexuals very rarely are involved in child sexual abuse. Less that 1/2 of 1 percent of child abusers are homosexuals. But heck,. why let fact's stand in the way of your stupidity!

Once more, the ignorant have their chuckles, about a subject that they know absolutely nothing about.

And, there is not a single word about Woodstock in that report. This is just another thing that the author of this thread made up, and that a lot of ignorant yahoos responded to.
 

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Gee, would it ever help if someone actually READ the study. But of course, then it would be a lot more difficult to display your complete l ignorance and your prejudice, wouldn't it?

In fact, homosexuals very rarely are involved in child sexual abuse. Less that 1/2 of 1 percent of child abusers are homosexuals. But heck,. why let fact's stand in the way of your stupidity!

Once more, the ignorant have their chuckles, about a subject that they know absolutely nothing about.

Gee, would it ever help if someone actually READ the study. But of course, then it would be a lot more difficult to display your complete l ignorance and your prejudice, wouldn't it?

In fact, homosexuals very rarely are involved in child sexual abuse. Less that 1/2 of 1 percent of child abusers are homosexuals. But heck,. why let fact's stand in the way of your stupidity!

Once more, the ignorant have their chuckles, about a subject that they know absolutely nothing about.

And, there is not a single word about Woodstock in that report. This is just another thing that the author of this thread made up, and that a lot of ignorant yahoos responded to.
You repeat yourself within the same post and I'm stupid and ignorant????

How about this, I will print of the report and read it as soon as I finish lighting the woodstove with it because that is where it belongs. If a bunch of murderers wrote some big report about murderers would you take it as some big scientific study? This publication from the church is another attempt at minimizing the participation and tacit approval by the leadership over many many decades. To even mention that the culture in the 60's and 70's affected the rates is trying to excuse it in some part and I find it laughable so yes I made a joke about it in the thread title. Too bad if you don't like it, don't bring it up to me, go talk to the f*cking morons in charge of the church who tried to air this stupidity in the first place. There has still been absolutely NO contrition from the catholic church, only attempt to excuse and minimize.

I don't know about you but when a guy fondles a little boy and f*cks him up the a*s I call it homosexual, maybe you call it normal but I sure as sh*t don't.

Here's what I do know without reading it. Many children were abused by catholic priests. When this was brought to the attention of the church leaders they hid it, covered it up, didn't report the offenders to the police, and moved the offender to another location full of potential victims without warning anyone a pedophile had just been placed in a position of trust over children. Nothing but complete admission and reparations to the victims and prosecution of every offender including those that hid it and denied it will be acceptable. When everyone involved in the crimes or covering the crimes or facilitating the crimes to continue has been thrown out of the church and in jail I might take a different view on the subject. Until then don't expect anything but pure contempt for the catholic church from me.
 

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You repeat yourself within the same post and I'm stupid and ignorant????

How about this, I will print of the report and read it as soon as I finish lighting the woodstove with it because that is where it belongs. If a bunch of murderers wrote some big report about murderers would you take it as some big scientific study? This publication from the church is another attempt at minimizing the participation and tacit approval by the leadership over many many decades. To even mention that the culture in the 60's and 70's affected the rates is trying to excuse it in some part and I find it laughable so yes I made a joke about it in the thread title. Too bad if you don't like it, don't bring it up to me, go talk to the f*cking morons in charge of the church who tried to air this stupidity in the first place. There has still been absolutely NO contrition from the catholic church, only attempt to excuse and minimize.

Nice to see that you have finally admitted to NOT reading the report. I also see that you are still using lies when posting. DO you know for a fact that the authors of the report are pedophiles? That's what you have accused them of.

The fact that you have NOT read the report and dismiss at as something that was written by pedophiles to excuse pedophilia, shows your complete ignorance.
 

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Protestant Clergy Abuse Equals or Exceeds Catholic Clergy Abuse

By Bob Allen

The Associated Press (legit source? I'd say so.) reported recently that three insurance companies receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, challenging the assumption that clergy sexual abuse is an exclusively Catholic problem that does not take place in other churches.

That is a higher number than the annual average of 228 “credible accusations” brought against Catholic clerics in records reported by the Catholic Church in response to media scrutiny, a priest observed in a Fox News commentary questioning why the story isn’t garnering more attention.

While the report about abuse in Protestant churches doesn’t absolve guilty Catholic priests or those who enabled them, said Father Jonathan Morris, it offers a more complete picture. “The problem of sexual abuse has no denominational boundaries,” he wrote.
The AP obtained figures on sex-abuse claims from three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America–Church Mutual Insurance Company, GuideOne Insurance and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Company.

The largest company, Church Mutual, reported an average of about 100 sex-abuse cases a year involving minors over the last decade. GuideOne, with about half the clients of Church Mutual, said it has received an average of 160 reports of sex abuse against minors every year for the past two decades. Brotherhood Mutual said it received an average of 73 reports of child sex abuse and other sexual misconduct every year for the last 15 years but did not specify how many victims are younger than 18.

That compares to at least 10,667 people who reported plausible claims of childhood sexual abuse by 4,392 priests or deacons between 1950 and 2002 in a study commissioned by the Catholic Church with the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York as part of its response to its clergy abuse scandal. That represents 4 percent of the approximately 110,000 diocesan and religious priests who served in the United States in those years.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops offers an extensive annual report monitoring sexual-abuse claims. There were 635 new allegations reported in 2006, 9 percent fewer than in 2005. A total of 14 allegations (2 percent) involved children under the age of 18 in 2006. The remaining 621 allegations were by adults alleging abuse as minors in previous years.

Protestant numbers are harder to come by, the AP reported, because the denominations are less centralized than the Catholic Church. Many churches are independent, making reporting even harder.

“This bad news for Protestant Churches is sad news for all of us,” Father Morris wrote. “I would prefer the problem be limited to any one church–even if that church were my own–because it would mean more kids would be safe. But as I have said repeatedly over the last few years, the problem of sexual abuse of minors is not an issue of religious affiliation because there is nothing religious about abusing children.

The phenomenon of sexual abuse of minors in church settings is the story of sick human beings taking advantage of their position of moral authority to prey on the weak and vulnerable. If Catholic clergy were to be faithful to their church’s teaching, there would be no abuse in the Catholic Church. The same goes for Protestant clergy. The problem, then, is not one of corrupt doctrine, but of individuals being unfaithful to the most basic precepts of their own religious belief.”

Insurance officials told the AP the numbers of sex-abuse cases has remained steady over the past two decades, but churches are doing more to prevent child-sexual abuse by conducting background checks, installing windows in nurseries and play areas and requiring at least two adults in a room with a child.

Still, said Patrick Moreland of Church Mutual, churches are particularly vulnerable to abusers.
“By their nature, congregations are the most trusting of organizations, so that makes them attractive targets for predators,” he said. “If you’re a predator, where do you go? You go to a congregation that will welcome you.”
 

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Nice to see that you have finally admitted to NOT reading the report.
I glossed over it, not that interested without a full mea culpa and comlete prosecution of all involved.

I also see that you are still using lies when posting. DO you know for a fact that the authors of the report are pedophiles?
Is the pope catholic? ;-) No I don't know if they are personally pedophiles but their organization has supported and facilitated pedophilia and I can be quite sure that organization had some influence over what was published.

The fact that you have NOT read the report and dismiss at as something that was written by pedophiles to excuse pedophilia, shows your complete ignorance.

I dismiss it because it comes from an organization that has a long history of hiding and protecting institutionalized pedophelia. They are the ignorant ones buddy, not me. If you choose to support such an organization that is your problem and you can reap all the benefits of being associated with them and what they are proven to be.
 

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And now for a few Jewish child abusers..

Cases of Clergy Abuse

Case of Shlomo Aviner (Rosh Yeshiva, Ateret Cohanim Yeshiva, Rabbi of Beit El, Israel)


[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Lewis Brenner (Convicted of child molestation. The original charges included 14 counts of sodomy, sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child. He agreed to plead guilty to one count of sodomy in the third degree, a Class E felony, in exchange for a sentence of five years' probation.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Ephraim Bryks (Accusations about sexual inappropriate behavior with children started surfacing in the 1980's. Rabbi Bryks is currently a member of the Vaad Harabonim of Queens. The Vaad is a Rabbinical committee that makes important decisions within an orthodox community.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach (Accused of several cases of child molestation, and sexual assault of young women) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case Rabbi Perry Ian Cohen - Montreal and Toronto Canada (Accused of sexual abuse of a seventeen year old. Fired for sexual impropriety with congregants) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Yitzchak Cohen (Accused of sexually harassing students at Bar-Ilan University) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Ephraim Goldberg - Boca Raton, Flordia (Pled guilty to one misdemeanor count of exposure of sexual organs in a washroom at a Palm Beach Mall.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi/Cantor Sidney Goldenberg (Convicted of molesting children. The first complaints came in 1971. He was finally convicted in 1997.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Joel Gordon (Convicted of having keeping a house of prostitution and involvement in a prostitution ring.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Israel Grunwald (Accused of molesting a 15 year old on a 1995 plane flight from Australia to LA. The charge against him were dropped after agreeing to perform 500 hours of community service and to seek counseling. Grunwald was the chief rabbi of an Hungarian Hasidic congregation in Brooklyn, known as the Pupas). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of The State of Israel Vs. Sex Offender (Convicted of repeated rape and forced molestation of his graddaughter.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Yehudah Friedlander - Rabbi 's Assistant (Accused of molesting a 15 year old on a 1995 plane flight from Australia to LA. Friedlander was the assistant to the chief rabbi of an Hungarian Hasidic congregation in Brooklyn, known as the Pupas) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of the Rabbi at Hillel Torah, Chicago, IL (A teacher at the Chicago school was accused of child molestation. His name was not released. The school did everything correctly in attempting to keep the children safe once accusations were made.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Solomon Hafner (Accused of sexually abusing a developmentally disabled boy) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi (Alan J.) Shneur Horowitz (Convicted and sentenced to 10 - 20 years in prison for sodomizing a nine-year-old psychiatric patient. Allegedly, he has assaulted a string of children from California to Israel to New York in the past twenty years. Alan J. Horowitz is an Orthodox rabbi, magna cum laude, M.D., Ph.D. A graduate of Duke University, and was a writer for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Jacob Frank and the Frankist Movement (Accused of cultic type practices and sexual offenses) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum (Accused of child pornography on the internet) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Robert Kirschner (Accused of sexually exploited or harassing three congregants and a synagogue employee) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Ze'ev Kopolevitch (Convicted of molesting students at Rosh Yeshiva, Netiv Meir yeshiva high school) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Baruch Lanner (Convicted - child molestation.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Jerrold Martin Levy (Convicted of two counts of soliciting sex through the Internet and two counts of child pornography. He was sentenced to six years and sex in prison. He was caught in the "Candyman" year-long sting operation by the US government.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Pinchas Lew (Accused of exposed himself to a woman.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi/Psychologist Mordecai Magencey (lost his license to practice in the State of Missouri because of his sexual misconduct with his patients.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Richard Marcovitz (Convicted of indecent or lewd acts with a child, and sexual battery) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Juda Mintz (Convicted - internet sting on child pornography) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Rabbi Yona Metzger (Accused of sexually misconduct with four men) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Avrohom Mondrowitz (Accused of two counts of sex abuse with boys at a special education school in New York) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Howard Nevison (Accused of molesting his nephew) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Michael Ozair (Accused of sexual molestation of a then-14-year-old girl) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Stanley Rosenfeld (Convicted of molesting a 12-year-old boy he was tutoring.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Charles Shalman (Accused of sexual misconduct toward female congregational members) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Robert Shapiro (Accused of three counts of rape and four counts of indecent assault and battery to a mentally retarded woman) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Michael Segelstein (Accused of attempted rape; Chabad - Las Vegas, Nevada) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Ze'ev Sultanovitch (Accused of sexually molesting a number of adult yeshiva students at the Merkaz Harav Yeshiva) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Melvin Teitelbaum (Accused of three counts of sex crimes against two boys under the age of 14, and one count of assault with intent to commit rape against one boy's mother. The charges were dropped for lack of evidenced) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Isadore Trachtman (Accused of cultic type practices and sexual offenses) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Hirsch Travis (Rabbi in Monsey, accused of posing as a Brooklyn doctor specializing in infertility problems, and allegedly sexually abusing and assaulting a patient.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Matis Weinberg (Accused of cultic type practices and sexual offenses) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Yaakov Weiner (Accused of molesting boy at Camp Mogen Avraham, New York) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Don Well [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Cantor Phillip Wittlin (Convicted of molesting two girls) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Mordechai Yomtov (Convicted of sexual abuse and committing lewd acts against three boys) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Sheldon Zimmerman (Violated guidelines concerning "sexual ethics and sexual boundaries," ) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Rabbi Max Zucker (Accused by three women of improperly touching) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]And Other Trusted Officals (Parents, Teachers, Camp Counselors, etc.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Arie Adler and Marisa Rimland, NY (Arie Adler was accused of molesting his daughter. Marisa Rimland murdered her daughter, and then committed suicide). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Simcha Adler - Ohel Counselor, NY (Plea-bargained charges of sodomy, sexual abuse and two counts of endangering the welfare of a child down to attempted sodomy.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Eugene Loub Aronin - School Counselor, TX (Convicted in 1984 of sexually assaulting a 10-year-old boy) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of B'Nai Torah Congegation - Hillel Community Day School janitor, Boca Raton, FL (Accused of child molestation) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Chaim Ciment (Accused and charged with first-degree sexual abuse, after allegations were made that he fondled a 17 year old girl in an elevator). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of James A. Cohen - Jewish Youth Group Leader (Convicted child molester, sentenced to 9 years for assaulting 4 boys) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Larry Cohen - Soccer Coach, Lake Oswego, OR (Accused of molesting two individuals.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Lawrence Cohen - School Teacher, NJ (Convicted and sentenced to 10 years in federal prison for transmitting child pornography through his home computer). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Phillip "Eli" Cohen, London, England (Accused of 13 charges of indecently assaulting a boy and four offences of indecently assaulting a girl) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Stuart Cooperman, MD - Pediatrican, Merrick, New York (Accused of molesting six female patience). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Delaware Family (Father accused of alleged child molestation) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Mordechai (Morton) Ehrman - Simcha's Play Group, Brooklyn, NY (Accused of molesting dozens of students). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Hbrandon Lee Flagner (Convicted of the kidnapping and aggravated murder of Tiffany Jennifer Papesh a 8-year-old girl. Flagner also claimed to have molested hundreds of girls during his life. While in prison, Flagner convert to Judaism by an Chasidic rabbi.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Arnold and Jesse Friedman (Capturing the Friedmans) (Convicted sex offender) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Richard "Steve" Goldberg (Allegedly engaging in sex acts with several girls under 10 in California. He is on the FBI's ten most wanted fugitives list) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Ross Goldstein (Convicting of sodomy in the first degree (three counts) and use of a child in a sexual performance. He was Sentenced to four concurrent indeterminated terms of 2 to 6 years imprisonment. Also see: Case of Arnold and Jesse Friedman) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Several Child Sex Offenders in Har Nof 0 Jerusalem, Israel (Outlines several cases of alleged child sex offenders in the charedi town of Har Nof) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of David B. Harrington - School Principal / Big Brother, Rockville, MD (Convicted sex offender. Cases from the 1960's - 1980's.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of State of Israel Vs. a Sex Offender (Convicted - 68 year old Israeli religious man pled guilty to repeated molestation of his granddaughter, was sentenced to 19 years in jail. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Eric Hindin - Jewish Big Brother Volunteer, Newton, MA (Convicted of 35 counts of child rape. He was sentenced to 20-22 years in prison). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Judge Ronald Kline, CA (Accused of possessing child pornography and for allegedly molesting a neighborhood boy 25 years ago). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of the Kosher Butcher in Chicago (Accused of molesting children for over 30 years) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Lawrence Nevison - (Convicted of molesting his nephew. He is the brother of Cantor Howard Nevison) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Stuart Nevison - (Convicted of molesting his cousin. He is the brother of Cantor Howard Nevison) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]The Case of the Students of Ner Israel Yeshiva in the 1950's (Students accused of sexually molesting a younger student) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of the New York Society for the Deaf's Home (Accused of treating disabled patients ``like animals,'' beaten, drugged and robbed of their government checks). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Ozzie Orbach, M.D. (Accused of molesting his daughter) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of the Rogers Park JCC, Chicago Illinois (This was the first case of alleged mass molestation recorded in Illinois to involve accusations of sexual abuse by a group of adults, consists of 246 allegations that staff members abused children enrolled at the center, according to the Illinois Department of children and Family Services). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Jonathan Rosenthal - Community Police Liason, London, England (Acquitted of sexually assaulting a few children, after a jury used ancient common law right, deciding evidence wasn't strong enough.) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Adam Theodore Rubin - Teacher, Coach and Girl Scout Coordinator (Accused of using a computer to solicit sex with a minor, possession of a controlled dangerous substance and possession of drug paraphernalia). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Georges Schteinberg - Teacher, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (Accused of possession of child pornography. Charges dropped when Schteinberg fled the country). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Aryeh Scher - Israeli vice-consul, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (Accused of possession of child pornography. Charges dropped when Scher fled the country). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of David Schwartz - Camp Counselor, Culver City, CA (Convicted and sentenced to one year in residential treatment and five years' probation for molesting a 4-year-old boy in his care at summer camp. A six-year prison sentence was suspended). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Jerrold Schwartz - Scoutmaster, NY (Convicted and sentanced to 8 years in prison for multiple counts of sodomizing his former scout ). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Irwin Silverman - Chief Counsel to U.S. secretary of interior 1933-53 (Accused of molesting his daughter Sue William Silverman. ) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Paul Slifer - Teacher (Accused of sexually assaulting a several students, and impersonating a doctor. ) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Ari Sorkin - Synagogue Youth Worker, Elkins Park, PA (Accused of molesting a 16 yr. old girl) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Tel Aviv Arts School, Tel Aviv, Israel [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of Dr. Saul and Judith Wasserman (Accused of molesting their daughter) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Case of David Douglas Webber - Mashgiach (Kashrut Supervisor), Canada (Convicted and sentenced to six years for possessing child pornography and molesting seven boys over the past eight years). [/SIZE]
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I dismiss it because it comes from an organization that has a long history of hiding and protecting institutionalized pedophelia. They are the ignorant ones buddy, not me. If you choose to support such an organization that is your problem and you can reap all the benefits of being associated with them and what they are proven to be.


I'm curious, do you support the Boy Scouts?
 

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I'm curious, do you support the Boy Scouts?

Nope, nor do I support any organized religion.

I know you really want to defend your church Gerry and I know that there are plenty of really good people within catholicism so please don't think I have a hate for catholics just because they are catholic. I also know that this issues covers every religion and almost every position of trust there is. My problem is with the responses from the catholic church to the situations which were completely towards self-preservation of the organization and its reputation and basically victimized the victims again.

I can applaud that some steps are being taken but IMHO it is nowhere near what should be done and does not excuse the past failings.
 

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My problem is with the responses from the catholic church to the situations which were completely towards self-preservation of the organization and its reputation and basically victimized the victims again.
Apparently some sects are better at covering their asses and aren't dealing with this full front and center like the Catholics.

As usual it's Catholics leading the way and the rest will eventually follow.
 

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Nope, nor do I support any organized religion.

I know you really want to defend your church Gerry and I know that there are plenty of really good people within catholicism so please don't think I have a hate for catholics just because they are catholic. I also know that this issues covers every religion and almost every position of trust there is. My problem is with the responses from the catholic church to the situations which were completely towards self-preservation of the organization and its reputation and basically victimized the victims again.

I can applaud that some steps are being taken but IMHO it is nowhere near what should be done and does not excuse the past failings.


The boy scouts aren't an organized religion, and neither is junior hockey. Both have, in the past, covered up pedophilia within their ranks. The facts are, which you choose to ignore in your hatred, that the Catholic Church has done many things to try and prevent these happenings. To ensure that cover ups don't happen anymore. Re read Karries posts because I'm not going to go over what she has already gone over.
 

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I stand by my claim that some of these alleged victims are nothing but despicable gold-diggers and they have far better and more vivid imagination than any recollection of any victimization.

They remind me of my neutered male dog who insisted on humping other dogs, when 'he' could not have any real recollection of why doing it.

Aside from the primal urges, the only thing that distinguish these gold digging lying predators from my dog is that my dog had enough honesty not doing it for money.

The Catholic Church is a very forgiving entity. Why fight a ridiculous charge, when the teaching is that you forgive your enemies?

Neutered male dogs humping in the canine world is about dominance not sex.

In the human world it is about dominance and sexual perversion. There is no comparison.

The Catholic church is most likely the wealthiest corporation upon planet Earth. There is no forgiving. They protect the monsters so they can be unleashed upon a new diocese. This is done to protect the Church - only the Church - and it's material wealth.
 

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Neutered male dogs humping in the canine world is about dominance not sex.

In the human world it is about dominance and sexual perversion. There is no comparison.

The Catholic church is most likely the wealthiest corporation upon planet Earth. There is no forgiving. They protect the monsters so they can be unleashed upon a new diocese. This is done to protect the Church - only the Church - and it's material wealth.

The word 'ELDER' is defined as 'an older person, an office bearer in certain churches', implying experience and wisdom.

You are an obviously glaring exception.
 

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The word 'ELDER' is defined as 'an older person, an office bearer in certain churches', implying experience and wisdom.

You are an obviously glaring exception.
You looking in the mirror again Jack? Elder is one of our more considered and articulate posters who stops to think before she speaks.
 

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Neutered male dogs humping in the canine world is about dominance not sex.

In the human world it is about dominance and sexual perversion. There is no comparison.

The Catholic church is most likely the wealthiest corporation upon planet Earth. There is no forgiving. They protect the monsters so they can be unleashed upon a new diocese. This is done to protect the Church - only the Church - and it's material wealth.

You looking in the mirror again Jack? Elder is one of our more considered and articulate posters who stops to think before she speaks.


So cliffy, you're saying then that she thought about the highlighted portion and posted it anyways. She used present tense instead of past. The Church no longer "protects" known pedophiles within the Church.
 
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