America has some human rights issues as well but America's support of Iraq is because of the Iranians. America backed Iraq in their war against Iran
Canada isn't morally superior
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America has some human rights issues as well but America's support of Iraq is because of the Iranians. America backed Iraq in their war against Iran
This has nothing to do with anything. It's just vaguely on topic.
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Just keep in mind that if Harper was in power at the time, we'd be in Iraq at this very moment (ie: his plagiarized speech he took from Australia's PM's speech about joining in Iraq)
Regardless of how people view Jean or Martin or the Liberals (I'm not fan of the Liberals myself) regardless of what reasons Chretien had for his decisions, be that petty or logical.... in the end, he made the right choice in regards to the best interests of Canada and in regards to the US's Star Wars plans, Canada also made the right decision in not jumping on board with that idea.
Chretien said he saw no credible evidence for invading Iraq, he stood his ground when most others in the world didn't care about evidence and in the end, he was right and everybody who thought the invasion over WMD was justified, were clearly proven wrong in more ways then one.
Whether it was because he didn't like the US or Bush via Anti-Americanism, or through legit reasoning, in the end, he made the right decision for Canada and Canadians.
US officials and Canadian Conservative politicians and media outlets argued that:
".... But conservative commentators, politicians, and the business community criticized the government for substituting process for policy, letting down its closest ally, and risking American retaliation. Bush administration officials expressed disappointment and hinted at possible damage to the relationship."
Chretien, Bush, and the war in Iraq | American Review of Canadian Studies | Find Articles at BNET
They can complain all they want, but the "Process" exists for a reason and that reason is to prevent knee-jerk military reactions like the Iraq war based on fearmongering rather then evidence and facts..... and if others around the world stuck to the "process" and did things right, things wouldn't be so fuct up as they are today.
You're point?
Because mine had nothing to do with the Iraq war.
Like playing a lottery. What if the US had invaded, and changed the regime, found WMD's and prevented countless deaths in the process?
This is true, but I'd be willing to bet my last dollar on the fact that he said that, for political points, not because he didn't actually see any proof.
The saddest 7 seconds in Canadian political history.
YouTube - (former) prime minister jean chretien explains...
Who says things are fuct up? What if this is exactly how they wanted it to play out?
I would like to know how kissing US's hairy butt is so patriotic? Harper is just a yes man to US interests. He is not much more than a US penis extension.
Then I'd call that dumb luck, since they had no real evidence proving WMD indeed existed and would have been a complete fluke based on assumptions and fearmongering.
And I supposed I'd have to tip my hat to Bush on this magical and lucky discovery.... but since it didn't happen.....
I dunno.... I'm no super-being or saw all this magical evidence Bush and crew had that he showed Jean, but based on all the arguments given, based on all the photos and Sat. shots of the roof of hangers they paraded in news media to support their invasion, at the time, even I felt there wasn't any solid evidence to justify any invasion..... and after Jean's little meeting to go over all the available "Evidence" including the "Evidence" that couldn't be shown to the public and then him claiming he still didn't see anything of value to justify an invasion, my position solidified on the whole invasion being a farce.
And based on what we all know today, I highly doubt Jean had to use arguments for political points at this stage to come to a valid conclusion that it was all a pile of crap. He just had to speak his view based on the evidence and speaking the truth on the validity of the evidence automatically gave him political points..... ie: the political points were a bonus.
Who, the Americans? If so, then perhaps this is exactly how they wanted it to play out.... but in my personal view, it's all fuct up and shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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No it wouldn't. It woulde be an example of the US abiding by international law and ending the suffering of millions of Iraqis because of Iraq's non-existant WMD stockpiles.
During the 1980's the US helped Iraq aquire WMDs and gave them military and economic aid to help them fight Iran. When Iraq gased the Kurds, US tried to blame the incident on Iran. Later when the rest of the world condemned and imposed sanctions on Iraq, the US refused to go along and worse, vowed to make up the difference in the name defending American business interests.
You tell me if this is US "supporting" regimes and whether the US is just "having diplomatic relations" with regimes.
Here are the ugly details
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein
The Canadian Crisis, moral bankruptcy, the nation's in debt to the internationalist road House, all of the trees all of the soil and every drop of water belongs to bankers, and we the people are wage slaves, when we can get work. The beer's still fair though.
They had tons, it all turned out to be fake mind you.
Because it was a lie.
Fair enough. I guess you have more faith in the Liberal Party then you let on.
Ain't hindsight awesome...:roll:
FIFY.
Oh I agree, it was wrong, from where I sit. But who knows, this may be what they wanted.
I do think the mess in Iraq was the point of the invasion - a complete destabilization of the middle east.
Does anyone else see something wrong in this train wreck of thought, or lack there of?
WMDs are way off topic in this thread Mr Bear. I have notified the staff of your grievous blatant deviation from the newly established good order.
You missed the mark beave. I didn't bring them into the equation, but feel free to do as you wish. Far be it from me to hinder you making a fool of yourself...:lol:
Here is a nice American Bashing Video
YouTube - Americans are NOT stupid - WITH SUBTITLES
That channel probably has some Canadian Bashing videos too;-):lol::lol:
YouTube - Americans are NOT stupid - WITH SUBTITLES
That channel probably has some Canadian Bashing videos too;-):lol::lol:
I've never never after ten or more years understood.....
....why it is so important to point out imperfections in the systems the U.S. operates under.
How does it impact Canada negatively?
It at least gives you something to grizzle about on forums but really it comes off as so lame and I believe Canadians should have no problem if Americans want to flush themselves into a global toilet or not.
What's the point of these high and mighty opinions? The internet has revealed some news to the U.S. people about Canada as well, but they don't make consistent long topics of critiquing the Canadian standard of life or preferences.
It's frequency begins to seem neurotic like looking for bugs in a salad.
Other than the praise for the Canadian Olympics the absolute discussion "of the moment" was Ann Coulter in Ottawa (or whichever university she made an ass of herself)....
Why not rejoice Canadian government and its people do not operate in tandem with what the U.S. government/people do and you should be glad seeing how things turn out (or not) when practiced by your southern neighbor.
Personally I'm thrilled they are so different - I would never have left Canada if I was going to experience the same things moving to the U.S. I enjoy the differences and some days feel "superior" and some days feel "inferior"...but what the heck...who cares?
....why it is so important to point out imperfections in the systems the U.S. operates under.
How does it impact Canada negatively?
It at least gives you something to grizzle about on forums but really it comes off as so lame and I believe Canadians should have no problem if Americans want to flush themselves into a global toilet or not.
What's the point of these high and mighty opinions? The internet has revealed some news to the U.S. people about Canada as well, but they don't make consistent long topics of critiquing the Canadian standard of life or preferences.
It's frequency begins to seem neurotic like looking for bugs in a salad.
Other than the praise for the Canadian Olympics the absolute discussion "of the moment" was Ann Coulter in Ottawa (or whichever university she made an ass of herself)....
Why not rejoice Canadian government and its people do not operate in tandem with what the U.S. government/people do and you should be glad seeing how things turn out (or not) when practiced by your southern neighbor.
Personally I'm thrilled they are so different - I would never have left Canada if I was going to experience the same things moving to the U.S. I enjoy the differences and some days feel "superior" and some days feel "inferior"...but what the heck...who cares?
Absolutely 100%- it doesn't matter how much sh*t someone else has on him- it doesn't make anyone else any cleaner.
Who appointed the US judge, jury and executioner?
Regarding the US and Egypt:
$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypt / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
Regarding Egypt and Torture
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Egypt torture centre, report says