Anouncing a new web site: The Science of 9/11

AnnaG

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I'm not trying to be difficult here. Because of the surrounding buildings, the aircraft would have had a hard time hitting the buildings much lower than they did.
That's pretty obvious. It's also irrelevant. They simply didn't and that is why the buildings didn't go sideways, is the gist of my hypothesis.
 

Dexter Sinister

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... all straight down at free-fall speed...
Beats me how that one keeps getting repeated, it's the easiest one to disprove. Watch the videos of the towers coming down, you can see fragments coming off the towers and falling faster than the main buildings did. They didn't come down at free fall speed, and it's perfectly obvious.
 

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I think you missed my point.
If the towers would have been hit near their bases, it would make sense that they would stand a better chance of toppling sideways rather than downwards. But they were hit near the tops and stayed upright for a while, so it makes more sense that they would fall more downwards than sideways.

#2 came close ... the top of it anyway. It was also the one hit lower and off to the side. Then, the debris collapsed floors beneath it on its way straight down.

The argument is going to come up again about all those steel buildings that have burned worse and didn't collapse. Study the construction details first.... How many of them didn't have structural floors? Very few are built that way - and a major percentage of them fell down on September 11.
 

AnnaG

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Beats me how that one keeps getting repeated, it's the easiest one to disprove. Watch the videos of the towers coming down, you can see fragments coming off the towers and falling faster than the main buildings did. They didn't come down at free fall speed, and it's perfectly obvious.
lol Not only that, but that speed is something like 210 kmph and it takes a while to accelerate to that speed even without resistance. lol
 

AnnaG

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#2 came close ... the top of it anyway. It was also the one hit lower and off to the side. Then, the debris collapsed floors beneath it on its way straight down.

The argument is going to come up again about all those steel buildings that have burned worse and didn't collapse. Study the construction details first.... How many of them didn't have structural floors? Very few are built that way - and a major percentage of them fell down on September 11.
I can imagine that as they weren't quite hit at the top they would have a certain amount tending to topple sideways.
Burning is different than being struck and then burning. One can weaken steel beam and as long as it stays straight it may still hold. Bend it and then weaken it by heat and you'd have a different story.
 

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Beats me how that one keeps getting repeated, it's the easiest one to disprove. Watch the videos of the towers coming down, you can see fragments coming off the towers and falling faster than the main buildings did. They didn't come down at free fall speed, and it's perfectly obvious.

The voice of sanity amid the madness!
 

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To Kakato: You must also believe that Moses parted the sea because you saw it at the movies. Newsflash: That wasn't Moses. It was Charlton Heston. Newsflash: The buildings exploded.
 

TenPenny

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Besides, free fall means no or little resistance, the top floors would meet resistance from the floors below.

Once one floor collapsed, it's likely that the impact load caused the bottom floors to collapse. The building would not have been designed to withstand the shock load of the top 10 or so floors hitting the lower floors.

But that's probably part of the conspiracy.
 

Ron in Regina

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To Kakato: You must also believe that Moses parted the sea because you saw it at the movies. Newsflash: That wasn't Moses. It was Charlton Heston. Newsflash: The buildings exploded.




FrederickCraig....Welcome to Canadian Content Forums.:lol:
 

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So the catalyst event that has allowed two wars abroad and untold changes inside the US is not worth investigating, is that what this 'crap' does or does the finding out that it was crap and now somebody is going to have to pay. Without all those 'expenditures' it really would be a recession in the US, as it is 911 has been responsible for a boom for the economy.
Does the fact that an 'elected Gov' would betray those who pay they salaries not ever cross your mind?

The two wars you refer to can be judged on their own merit, or lack thereof.

Iraq was a BS war regardless of what happend on 9/11.

Afganistan is a trickier one, the premise being that the Taliban government was knowingly and willfully harbouring the perpetrators of 9/11.

Problem #1: Osama bin Laden is on tape admitting to masterminding it. Okay, so he doesn't admit it in English, but I have yet to hear of a single Arabic speaker coming out and saying that he did not.

Problem #2: What exactly would the US have to gain in a long drawn out war with Afganistan? It has just about zero strategic value and has historically been a very difficult place to take hold of.

If such a consipracy existed, which would have to have such a considerable number of people in the know, how did they get so many people to keep quiet over something that is so blatantly criminal that it's nigh impossible to not have at least one guilty conscience coming forward.

Yes, governments should be questioned, but the questions should at least be sensible and well founded.
 
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Besides, free fall means no or little resistance, the top floors would meet resistance from the floors below.
The theory goes that the floors started to pancake, if that is the argument then what brought down that center core???
The link in post #30 has a part on the towers after the bldg 7 footage. If you watch carefully you can see some naked steel girders. The camera keeps panning up and by the time it pans back down an uprising cloud obscures the steel. With the panning down it seems that that portion was much greater than what was left when the dust had cleared. 4 0r 5 stories at best. They even show a common angle on both sides of the highest point. Wouldn't it be interesting if when overlaid on a 3D building that from that camera angle it's angle and distance could both be calculated into the actual building. If they turned out to be outer walls then how do they end up falling into little pieces. Their wreckage should be like a hydro tower than crumples. If that steel was from the inner-core then where was all the concrete and re-bar. Pancaking happens because the concrete stays intact and that weight justs gets bigger and bigger. Being dust it adds no weight, you can stand in a sand-storm without the weight of the sand above you (1/4 mile * x) and it doesn't crush you. Sandblast yes, crush no.

Let me know if you can see the steel support beams. Serious question, have you ever seen steel turn to vapor that is taken away on the wind? (a different video)You are already married to an expert witness, turn the sound down and sat 'watch' & speak'


Like any good business you keep two sets of everything, and you never keep both in the same location at the same time. Every scrap of info in all 3 buildings would have also been stores off-site. Tack up another lie, all ongoing investigations must stop and new ones will be coming down the pipe shortly.
Enter 'security' when you (they, them, it) were already paying billions/month for that very protection. Then the 'excuse' and no 'you're whole family is fired'. No wonder my grand-father tried so hard to get as far away from (post wars germany) Not one stick of English as my Dad (4) was middle named 'white'. lol Still he never went so far as to be without some people. Just different from wall street'. To be taught absolutely nothing about the 'old ways' pretty much mreans about as fuked as you can git (CDN lingo), move on .
 

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The two wars you refer to can be judged on their own merit, or lack thereof.

Iraq was a BS war regardless of what happend on 9/11.

Afganistan is a trickier one, the premise being that the Taliban government was knowingly and willfully harbouring the perpetrators of 9/11.

Problem #1: Osama bin Laden is on tape admitting to masterminding it. Okay, so he doesn't admit it in English, but I have yet to hear of a single Arabic speaker coming out and saying that he did not.

Problem #2: What exactly would the US have to gain in a long drawn out war with Afganistan? It has just about zero strategic value and has historically been a very difficult place to take hold of.

If such a consipracy existed, which would have to have such a considerable number of people in the know, how did they get so many people to keep quiet over something that is so blatantly criminal that it's nigh impossible to not have at least one guilty conscience coming forward.

Yes, governments should be questioned, but the questions should at least be sensible and well founded.
That's it, 2 problems???
Did you forget that the 'bad guys' were on an all expenses paid tour of Houston,TX well within a year ob being at war with those same people???

They are not two wars, they are two battles in the same war.
Governments were questioned at one time. and then they hung the fuktards.
In all seriousness there were groups called watch-dogs. Before they watched who were being hired, now they watch the one doing the hiring
Wishful thinking, after all Neb in the OT, being a pagan king, slew whole families for the crimes of one.
In light of that stipulation would you try and screw you employers (tax-payers)? I do not think so.

Lets look at who the investigators were, do you need a link?

How about answered to the satisfaction of the person asking the question? If the Gov cannot supply the answer then 'well the Sheiks nows how to deal with infidelsis'. (German spelling)

How many people who were mentioned on or around that that day are living higher on the same day and how many are dead for saying 'this isn't right'? How about those new records in heroin sales, how much is used on war vets?
 

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Where WTC conspirators meet.

Don't laugh the next time you see a hearse go by, the next one maybe for you, your're okay for a week or so but then the coffin springs a leak. worms come in and worms go ou, your eyes tur red and your guts turn green and puss comes out like whilling cream, and Ironsides says "I forgot my fork."
 

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Ahhh the final daze of August ... when all the old 9/11 decorations come out of the closet....

LOL its a bit like the crap people do at xmas to celebrate the fable of that dude that walked on water................what the hell was his name again.......
 

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LOL its a bit like the crap people do at xmas to celebrate the fable of that dude that walked on water................what the hell was his name again.......
Don't worry about it, He won't know your name when it comes time to acknowledge you.