A National Shame?

Joffen

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Developing and maintaining a good international reputation.

.. Or gold medals in Olympic hockey.
Really? Gold medals? Where are your god damn priorities?!

I am truly grateful that my daughter will never be treated in a Canadian hospital. I am grateful that she is a citizen of a country that truly values freedom. But I ask you: why do you believe that government knows what's best for you?
 

captain morgan

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I have family in Canada so your country's crappy system affects me directly. Your country doesn't care for its citizens properly.

I wish I could. But she is like so many other Canadians. She is anti-American and won't come here. It's truly sad how brainwashed you all are.


This makes no sense. You mother won't travel to the US for this critical dermatological appt because she is anti-American?.. Sorry buddy, but there is a reason for your mom's decision (whatever it is) and blaming Canada's healthcare system isn't the answer.

Anyways, there are many private clinics throughout Canada, why don't you research one and you can organize and pay for that appt in her home town?
 

TenPenny

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No. Canada's system of government is infuriating. Do you know how long it will take my mom to see a dermatologist? Her appointment is in MAY! What kind of health care is that?!


Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. I notice that not a one of you are disagreeing with what I am saying. Try to defend the way Canada does anything. I dare you!

Just because you're whining about poor mommy having to wait a few weeks, stop ranting. Why don't you bring her down to Buffalo, and pay out of your pocket for her to see your lovely dermatologists then.

If you think private enterprise for health care is the ultimate, then pay up or shut up. The ball's in your court, not ours.

Why can't you just pay for her to get looked after in the great US of A?
 

captain morgan

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Really? Gold medals? Where are your god damn priorities?!

You dared me... You didn't say anything about details


I am truly grateful that my daughter will never be treated in a Canadian hospital. I am grateful that she is a citizen of a country that truly values freedom. But I ask you: why do you believe that government knows what's best for you?

Like the Patriot Act style freedoms or maybe the kinda freedom that Arizona residents enjoy, especially those with a Spanish/Latin heritage?
 

Joffen

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Just because you're whining about poor mommy having to wait a few weeks, stop ranting. Why don't you bring her down to Buffalo, and pay out of your pocket for her to see your lovely dermatologists then.

If you think private enterprise for health care is the ultimate, then pay up or shut up. The ball's in your court, not ours.

Why can't you just pay for her to get looked after in the great US of A?
It's not "a few weeks" it's three damn months! And I would love to have her treated here but she refuses. But that's really Canada's solution: go to the United States. Don't worry about improving your system, just go to a country where it's done better. Unbelievable.

You dared me... You didn't say anything about details




Like the Patriot Act style freedoms or maybe the kinda freedom that Arizona residents enjoy, especially those with a Spanish/Latin heritage?
I find it hilarious that you didn't mention any real accomplishments. You mentioned "making ourselves look good to the international community" and "hockey". Nice.
 

JLM

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Is the Gov't. REALLY responsible for looking after OUR health? Next time you are down town, just take a seat somewhere and watch all the rolly polys in their 30s and 40s as they go huffing and puffing along on their way to McDonalds or Dairy Queen. Healthcare in British Columbia eats up over 40% of the provincial budget. What does that alone tell you?
 

Joffen

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Is the Gov't. REALLY responsible for looking after OUR health? Next time you are down town, just take a seat somewhere and watch all the rolly polys in their 30s and 40s as they go huffing and puffing along on their way to McDonalds or Dairy Queen. Healthcare in British Columbia eats up over 40% of the provincial budget. What does that alone tell you?
Canadians are content to leave important decisions to the government.
 

gerryh

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boy, do I wish I had more time today for this little boy with his head stuffed up uncle sam's ass, mouthing off about crap that his tiny little one celled brain could not come close to understanding.
 

Joffen

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boy, do I wish I had more time today for this little boy with his head stuffed up uncle sam's ass, mouthing off about crap that his tiny little one celled brain could not come close to understanding.
Oh? Exactly how is what I am saying incorrect?
 

captain morgan

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It's not "a few weeks" it's three damn months! And I would love to have her treated here but she refuses. But that's really Canada's solution: go to the United States. Don't worry about improving your system, just go to a country where it's done better. Unbelievable.


You haven't answered my question regarding your ability to organize through a private medical group in Canada... Why are you ducking this option?


I find it hilarious that you didn't mention any real accomplishments. You mentioned "making ourselves look good to the international community" and "hockey". Nice.


Ohhh, but they are both very real. But if you want something more tangible.. How about insulin?
 

weaselwords

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I don't know what province your mother is in however in Ontario as far as dermatology is concerned she can either run it through OHIP & wait her turn or there are multple private dermatological & cosmetic clinics available so she can pay out of pocket & that way go to the front of the line. Its really her decision.
 

Joffen

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You know what? Thank you for that advice. I have absolutely no idea how to do organize thru a private medical group. My mom is dying from kidney failure. It's complicated. However, it's very infuriating to see her suffer with her psoriasis. I wish Canada wasn't so enamored of socialism. It's beyond shameful.

Insulin? Debatable. Who Is the True Inventor of Insulin?
 

captain morgan

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I don't know what province your mother is in however in Ontario as far as dermatology is concerned she can either run it through OHIP & wait her turn or there are multple private dermatological & cosmetic clinics available so she can pay out of pocket & that way go to the front of the line. Its really her decision.


I think that Joffen is more interested in the healthcare option that doesn't require a direct payment
 

weaselwords

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Oh. For profit HMO's, personal health care savings plans, private insurers who obfiscate responsibilty aren't direct pay? Maybe he should take a look at his pay stub or maybe he's registered under Medicare.
 

Joffen

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Let me ask all of you: are you truly happy with the services provided by your government? Do you honestly think it is remotely acceptable that you must wait and wait and wait for medical care? Don't any of you realize how awful universal health care is?
 

captain morgan

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Let me ask all of you: are you truly happy with the services provided by your government? Do you honestly think it is remotely acceptable that you must wait and wait and wait for medical care? Don't any of you realize how awful universal health care is?


So... I'm guessing that you're not to interested in answering my questions or replying to my suggestions.

Thanks for coming out... Our lovely hostess has a consolation prize for you at the door.