A looters' apology - Total Crap I say:

Corduroy

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She's trying to have it both ways here:


  • I take full responsibility for my actions
  • I was influenced by mob mentality

Which is it then? Full responsibility or mob influence? Early on she explains that all she did was some looting, no fires or vandalism or anything. Again, which is it? Either she's in the mob or she's out. If she's blaming mob mentality for her looting than she's in the mob, and contributing to that mentality, and so should take responsibility for mob actions she did not personally commit.

And she didn't really play the race card. She was responding to racist comments made against her. Of course, she ironically cited the affirmative action part of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms while trying to explain that Canada doesn't accept racism.
 

EagleSmack

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She's trying to have it both ways here:


  • I take full responsibility for my actions
  • I was influenced by mob mentality
Which is it then? Full responsibility or mob influence? Early on she explains that all she did was some looting, no fires or vandalism or anything. Again, which is it? Either she's in the mob or she's out. If she's blaming mob mentality for her looting than she's in the mob, and contributing to that mentality, and so should take responsibility for mob actions she did not personally commit.

And she didn't really play the race card. She was responding to racist comments made against her. Of course, she ironically cited the affirmative action part of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms while trying to explain that Canada doesn't accept racism.

She does bring up feminism though.

She seemed to be pretty clear that women make just as good a rioter as men. :)
 

JLM

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Apology total crap??????? I doubt it, insincere in some cases no doubt but not all. I know as a young fella I did/said things while in my cups that I was very remorseful for the next day............don't see why it would be different with others. People act differently when in a crowd. There is a tendency to go along with the crowd, hoping to get recognition/acceptance. There is no excuse for it but that doesn't mean we should write off the apology...................for what it's worth!
 

Praxius

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Apology total crap??????? I doubt it, insincere in some cases no doubt but not all. I know as a young fella I did/said things while in my cups that I was very remorseful for the next day............don't see why it would be different with others. People act differently when in a crowd. There is a tendency to go along with the crowd, hoping to get recognition/acceptance. There is no excuse for it but that doesn't mean we should write off the apology...................for what it's worth!

It's total crap when she first makes a big apology to everybody and everything under the sun and then immediately turns 180 degrees and blames everybody and everything under the sun for her actions.

It's a clear sign that she truly didn't learn her lesson, she truly didn't accept her responsibility for her actions, she went on longer with explaining how she was the poor victim then she did actually accepting responsibility.

Her online apology was an attempt to try and save her skin from getting fired from her job or facing consequences at her University..... and it would have worked & I would have accepted it if she didn't go on excusing what she did and blaming everybody & everything else for what she did.

She clearly trivialized her actions by comparing it to what others did during the riot...... which is the same as me saying that if I flipped a cop car and set it on fire, it should be excused and ignored because someone else beat the crap out of someone or stabbed a cop.

It was still wrong and she was still a contributing factor in the riots.... she committed a crime and that's that.

Based on how she went on excusing what she did and blame shifting, her apology was crap & cancelled out, she truly didn't learn her lesson and the only thing she might have learned from this was that so long as she made a long winded apology, she should be forgiven and forgotten with a mere slap on the wrist..... and thought the public would be nice. She's now learning that society isn't so forgiving, especially when you give a half-assed, empty apology as she did.

When you commit a crime against a community, don't be surprised at how that community reacts.

She was just as much a part of the riot as everybody else who committed crimes during the riot.
 

JLM

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It's total crap when she first makes a big apology to everybody and everything under the sun and then immediately turns 180 degrees and blames everybody and everything under the sun for her actions.

It's a clear sign that she truly didn't learn her lesson, she truly didn't accept her responsibility for her actions, she went on longer with explaining how she was the poor victim then she did actually accepting responsibility.

Her online apology was an attempt to try and save her skin from getting fired from her job or facing consequences at her University..... and it would have worked & I would have accepted it if she didn't go on excusing what she did and blaming everybody & everything else for what she did.

She clearly trivialized her actions by comparing it to what others did during the riot...... which is the same as me saying that if I flipped a cop car and set it on fire, it should be excused and ignored because someone else beat the crap out of someone or stabbed a cop.

It was still wrong and she was still a contributing factor in the riots.... she committed a crime and that's that.

Based on how she went on excusing what she did and blame shifting, her apology was crap & cancelled out, she truly didn't learn her lesson and the only thing she might have learned from this was that so long as she made a long winded apology, she should be forgiven and forgotten with a mere slap on the wrist.

She was just as much a part of the riot as everybody else who committed crimes during the riot.

OK, I tend to agree with that, however no matter what she says I'm guessing she feels very stupid will probably not repeat the same mistake, but still deserves substantial punishment.
 

Praxius

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From her blog..


"Not only that, but Canada prides itself in being a peaceful country. We Canadians are loved around the world because we know how to handle ourselves and we avoid war as much as possible. The actions that I have seen on social media sites are embarrassing to our country and our reputation. These actions do not reflect the kindness that us Canadians are all known and loved for."

^ Sez the girl who got involved into a riot over a stupid fk'n loss in a hockey game of all things.

Cuz she's one we should all be taking lessons on when it comes to giving a good image to the world about Canada. :roll:

The "Actions" she has seen on social media sites is what she calls embarrassing to the country and our reputation..... funny, those "Actions" are merely words and people freely expressing their opinions as we're permitted to do due to freedom of speech.

These people on social media sites are not going out and getting involved in riots, stealing clothes from a smashed up store and then blaming everybody else for their actions.

Fk'n twit she is.

OK, I tend to agree with that, however no matter what she says I'm guessing she feels very stupid will probably not repeat the same mistake, but still deserves substantial punishment.

Agreed.... it's already been stated by her employer that they fired her over this and she should be facing community service for her crimes (not just a mere fine)

After that, she will learn her lesson, many in society will be satisfied, she'll find another job and life for everybody will go on.

I bet she wouldn't have even been fired if she didn't drag her employer's name into her apology/excuse blog.

Not sure of the legalities of firing an employee for something done on their own time. I think the various right kangaroo courts would have fun with that one.

Many people do all sorts of things on their own free time and are still fired from their job......take regular drug testing as an example..... or people who go on Facebook and complain about their boss or their job, whom are caught by another employee or even their boss they had as a friend on Facebook.

Or say someone who works for a very conservative-family-image based business and was caught in a strip club or picking up a prostitute.

dear human being that used extremely poor judgement.

STFU, You talk too damn much.

If you wanted to apologize, then do so. But, keep in mind that a good apology is meant for the benefit of the person recieving it.

Otherwise, my advice to you is simple. Don't put yourself on trial in front of the media. focus on getting your life where you want it.

You'll have your day in court, please prepare a defence for that day

And to add to that, don't put yourself on trial in front of the media & public and using social media sources to defend yourself when you complain about the reaction you get from that same Media/Public & Social Media Sources.

You can't use them to your advantage and then complain when others use them in a similar fashion to express themselves.

Frig'n Hippo'Crite!
 

Ron in Regina

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dear human being that used extremely poor judgement.

STFU, You talk too damn much.

If you wanted to apologize, then do so. But, keep in mind that a good apology is meant for the benefit of the person recieving it.

Otherwise, my advice to you is simple. Don't put yourself on trial in front of the media. focus on getting your life where you want it.

You'll have your day in court, please prepare a defence for that day


I hear you! This girl reminds me of this for some reason:

YouTube - ‪President Quagmire‬‏
 

Dexter Sinister

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From what I read, you can be fired with cause if your behavior can potentially cause the employer harm, whether in work hours or not.
I wouldn't bet the farm on that one. Many years ago I had an employee who was found guilty of the criminal offense officially called "committing an indecent act" --a flasher, in other words--and I was told by the lawyers that I couldn't fire him for it because he didn't do it at work. But after that nobody at work wanted anything to do with him, the men wanted to beat the crap out of him and the women were just disgusted, and I could never again arrange work schedules in a way that would leave him alone with any female staff member. I had to make the case for dismissal based on the fact that he'd poisoned the workplace, not the offense itself. And what a bureaucratic folly that was, three months and 10 kg of paperwork. But that was a public sector bureaucracy--gawd, don't ever work for one of them if you can avoid it, I got out as soon as could, all the bad things you've ever heard about them are all true--the private sector I presume can operate a little more sensibly, though I've never seen anything like that tested there.

And just in case anyone's wondering, no, I didn't hire that guy, I inherited him, and he creeped me out from the beginning.
 

karrie

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Dex, that's nothing... my ex brother in law molested a mentally handicapped girl IN the work place (she was a teenage helper to her mother who was custodian), and they still couldn't fire his slimy ass.
 

petros

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There is away without paying severence or being taken to the labour board.....cut their hours to nothing and they'll soon quit. Quit on the ROE and out the door they go with zero EI as well.
 

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There is away without paying severence or being taken to the labour board.....cut their hours to nothing and they'll soon quit. Quit on the ROE and out the door they go with zero EI as well.

That would likely fall under the realm of constructive dismissal... That employee may even have grounds for wrongful dismissal.
 

EagleSmack

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^ Sez the girl who got involved into a riot over a stupid fk'n loss in a hockey game of all things.

Cuz she's one we should all be taking lessons on when it comes to giving a good image to the world about Canada. :roll:

The "Actions" she has seen on social media sites is what she calls embarrassing to the country and our reputation..... funny, those "Actions" are merely words and people freely expressing their opinions as we're permitted to do due to freedom of speech.

These people on social media sites are not going out and getting involved in riots, stealing clothes from a smashed up store and then blaming everybody else for their actions.

Hey Prax... I didn't even notice that part.

So she is basically saying...

"Yeah we had a big riot... but talking about it and citisizing us about it on social media sites is embarrassing to the country."

Wow... she's a piece of work isn't she?
 

Praxius

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Hey Prax... I didn't even notice that part.

So she is basically saying...

"Yeah we had a big riot... but talking about it and citisizing us about it on social media sites is embarrassing to the country."

Wow... she's a piece of work isn't she?

She sure is.... I'm betting in another 15 years, we'll see her run for Conservative Leadership, that is if by that time Harper can pry his fingers off it. :lol:
 

JLM

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She sure is.... I'm betting in another 15 years, we'll see her run for Conservative Leadership, that is if by that time Harper can pry his fingers off it. :lol:

Unless she's good looking enough to run for Rhinocerus! :lol: