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I will be bringing a surprise for you. I discovered the plans for it in a defunct Canadian company's litter.
I guess it's a good thing we started recycling early
PS
I will be bringing a surprise for you. I discovered the plans for it in a defunct Canadian company's litter.
I'll try to explain the readers digest version.
Canada becomes the world class leader (?) in washer, bolt and screws
Still with me. Does it sound about right?
Canada becomes the shaftee and the US becomes the shafter
Probably nothing but timbits and maple syrup to keep our tourism industry afloat.... that does sound like a Harper plan.
The Defence Production Sharing Agreement is a bilateral trade agreement between the United States and Canada that aims to balance the amount of military cross-border buying in order to avoid trade imbalances. Since its signing in 1956, it has led to a number of US companies sending military production to Canada in order to "offset" Canadian purchases of US military equipment. The Agreement has been amended on several occasions. The similar Defense Development Sharing Program organized sharing of military research and development.
From Wiki
The end result.... Toronto may do ok in the near term, but the rest of the country suffers
Navistar gets to develop a finished product and Canada supplies the bits and pieces
Once the vehicle is delivered do you really think Navistar will continuwe to "buy" Canadian for 7 more yrs? That hasn't been the case in the past with American suppliers of military hardware
No need to get testy. I've got a big day tomorrow raking in profits from this deal. :lol:
All "what ifs" and the glass is half full.
Canada doesn't just buy it stuff from the US. You recently purchased tanks from the the Netherlands I believe. You also bought subs from Britain.
LMFAO!
Products are Products! Throw in some hockey pucks and goalie pads too!
At a time when American manufacturers are adamant about tying their stimulus package to a "must be produced in the USA" to qualify for funding, Harpo and his legion of mental midgets spends $274 million on American vehicles with absolutely no industrial benefit to Canada
VALCARTIER, Que. - Federal Defence Minister Peter MacKay defended Friday a $274-million contract awarded to a U.S.-based company for the purchase of 1,300 logistic trucks for the Canadian military.
MacKay painted the announcement as good news for the Canadian economy in difficult times, but was forced to acknowledge the vehicles won't be built in Canada.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay painted the $274-million announcement as good news for the Canadian economy in difficult times, (but didn't specify how those benefits would be realized) but was forced to acknowledge the vehicles won’t be built in Canada.
Illinois-based Navistar Defence LLC won the contract
List of Canadian Defence industry vehicle manufacturers or suppliers
BMT Fleet Technology Ltd
General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada
ING Engineering Inc.
John Deere Limited
MAN Military Vehicle Systems Canada
Well, I remember them talking about buying 4wd vehicles some years ago.....we could have bought them off the shelf for $28,000 each, but instead built them in Canada, for $78,000 each.
same as the C7, which is essentually an M16, built in Canada (I believe) for about $ 1000 1985 bucks apiece.....you could buy the semi-auto version at the time for 750 bucks RETAIL!!!!!! And this one I remember clearly.....$1 a round for 5.56 ammo........which I was reloading in my basement for 25 CENTS a round.
So, yep, you can build in Canada, as long as you don't mind tripling the military budget for purchasing......and waiting a few extra years.
This could still benefit the Canadian economy indirectly. To purchase US products, the government must buy 274 million dollars' worth of US dollars, thus increasing the value of the US dollar in relation to the Canadian dollar, thus making US products more expensive for Canadians, thus encouraging Canadians to buy more Canadian products.
It would be even better though if Canada and the US had a free-movement-of-labour agreement.
There's no point buying Canadian if the US can produce the same product for a lower price, or a better product for the same price. Then we can simply reciprocate later by exporting something to the US that they don'[t have.
Well, I remember them talking about buying 4wd vehicles some years ago.....we could have bought them off the shelf for $28,000 each, but instead built them in Canada, for $78,000 each.
same as the C7, which is essentually an M16, built in Canada (I believe) for about $ 1000 1985 bucks apiece.....you could buy the semi-auto version at the time for 750 bucks RETAIL!!!!!! And this one I remember clearly.....$1 a round for 5.56 ammo........which I was reloading in my basement for 25 CENTS a round.
So, yep, you can build in Canada, as long as you don't mind tripling the military budget for purchasing......and waiting a few extra years.
Hey Prax... Navistar can turn around and say...
"We didn't say $274 million... we said 250 ml of Maple Syrup"
(see lower left of the label)
This could still benefit the Canadian economy indirectly. To purchase US products, the government must buy 274 million dollars' worth of US dollars, thus increasing the value of the US dollar in relation to the Canadian dollar, thus making US products more expensive for Canadians, thus encouraging Canadians to buy more Canadian products.
It would be even better though if Canada and the US had a free-movement-of-labour agreement.
There's no point buying Canadian if the US can produce the same product for a lower price, or a better product for the same price. Then we can simply reciprocate later by exporting something to the US that they don'[t have.
you're joking right?
Well, I remember them talking about buying 4wd vehicles some years ago.....we could have bought them off the shelf for $28,000 each, but instead built them in Canada, for $78,000 each.
same as the C7, which is essentually an M16, built in Canada (I believe) for about $ 1000 1985 bucks apiece.....you could buy the semi-auto version at the time for 750 bucks RETAIL!!!!!! And this one I remember clearly.....$1 a round for 5.56 ammo........which I was reloading in my basement for 25 CENTS a round.
So, yep, you can build in Canada, as long as you don't mind tripling the military budget for purchasing......and waiting a few extra years.
Well, let's extend the logic of this thread a little Tyr. I find that when we take it to extremes, the impact becomes more obvious.
Dear Ottawa City Council,
Owing to the tough economic times, I beleive that Ottawa needs to protect the jobs of Ottawa residents first and foremost. And here is what I propose to establish this:
1. Ban all non-Ottawa residents from working in Ottawa. Sure neighbouring towns might retaliate with ottawa residents working elsewhere, but so be it. Maybe some Ottawa residents earned good money outside and paid their taxes to Ottawa, but tough. They should learn to love their city for crying out loud.
2. Let's start diggin oil wells in Ottawa's suburbs, and ban imports from outside. Sure we might have to dig deep and suck hard to get the slightest bit of oil out of the ground, causing quite a bit of inflation at the gas pump, but at least it'll create jobs for oil companies.
3. Let's ban car imports. This would force Ottawa companies to start up a small-scale car factory. Sure it might be inefficient owing to economies of scale owing to low car production, but at least it'll create jobs for unemployed locals. We might even need to import some workers (who'll have to immigrate to Ottawa of course) to train the locals, but so be it. More jobs again.
4. Ban all food imports. That should help the local agricultural economy boom. Now if rural communities should retaliate by banning urban imports to their communities, we might suffer. But so be it, we need to protect our own first.
Sure this might lead to a highly inefficient economic system resulting in high rates of inflation, but at least we'll have jobs for everyone even if they can't afford anything.
Now Tyr, of course nations are bigger than cities, but the result is the same albeit on a smaller scale. For us to insists on having everything made in Canada even when it can be produced more efficiently in the US merely leads to inefficiencies in the economic system resulting in inflation with no corresponding increase in salaries sinse the inflation comes from less efficient production (i.e. more overhead costs).
Is this what you propose?
There's no point buying Canadian if the US can produce the same product for a lower price, or a better product for the same price.
Why don't we buy howitzers from North Korea and rocket guidance systems from Iran, if that's the criteria you're measuring purchases with. I'm sure they're dirt cheap and for those two particular items the quality is pretty good