Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'


Tonington
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#151
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Yeah - Rosa Parks would be right with you on that one.

She sure wouldn't be like you saying someone should suck it up.

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Limbaugh apologized for using the word sl ut and wh0re. He didn't back-off from the principle.

He apologized for how he worded it. It's disingenious to frame her position as the right to phuck, and you know it.

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We had already established that birth control pills for medically related reasons was covered by the insurance.

In some cases. In others the administrators dispute the necessity, and accuse the women of lying. Even a lesbian student with polycystic ovaries, who they denied. I guess you ignored that part of what she said, it is very inconvenient I understand for you.

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Are you getting this yet? C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-O-N

Yes, contraceptive drugs...condoms are not drugs, understand? Do you need a pop-up book?

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You've already marginalized Civil Rights and Rosa Parks

Hardly. I noted similar resistance to people who wanted to change something that they perceived as unjust. It's a common tactic of the intellectually impotent. I compared you to the people who wanted to keep things the way they are, not Fluke to Parks. Comprehend? Likely not.

I think it's legitimate to ask if they only teach from a Catholic perspective, considering they will only grant health coverage that is consistent with the Catholic dogma.
 
captain morgan
#152
It's fun to watch you back pedal.

Barring a medical reason, birth control pills are contraceptives. Flukes specifies contraceptives - not contraceptive drugs (that's your little addition) and seeing how she has recognized that birth control pills for medical reasons are covered, that leaves few options... You figure out the alternatives, but pretty much any way you go, it's over the counter stuff.

As for Limbaugh, he apologized for using 2 specific words.

As for your heinous assumption on Rosa parks - it's still a remarkably tasteless parallel you drew... I suppose that seeing how you prefer to use some twisted logic to justify it, you'll be marginalizing Martin Luther King next.
 
Tonington
#153
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

It's fun to watch you back pedal.
...Flukes specifies contraceptives - not contraceptive drugs (that's your little addition)

She was testifying on a particular requirement in a piece of legislation that relates to DRUGS.
 
captain morgan
#154
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

She was testifying on a particular requirement in a piece of legislation that relates to DRUGS.


Yet from a medical perspective, she mentions it once or twice:

"In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences."

Again, we've established that the medical requirement IS covered by the insurance.


The remainder of her diatribe is related to C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-V-E-S in which she employs the generalized term dozens of times without any reference to health related concerns
abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf (external - login to view)

Here's the link... Read it
 
Tonington
+1
#155
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Yet from a medical perspective, she mentions it once or twice:

"In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences."

Again, we've established that the medical requirement IS covered by the insurance.

No, you repeatedly ignore a good portion of what she said:
In sixty-five percent of cases, our female students were interrogated by insurance
representatives and university medical staff about why they needed these
prescriptions and whether they were lying about their symptoms. For my friend,
and 20% of women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover
her prescription, despite verification of her illness from her doctor.
Her claim was
denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted the birth control to
prevent pregnancy. She’s gay, so clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much
more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy. After months of paying over $100
out of pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore and had to stop
taking it. I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message
from her that in the middle of her final exam period she’d been in the emergency
room all night in excruciating pain. She wrote, “It was so painful, I woke up
thinking I’d been shot.” Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the
size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove
her entire ovary. On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony,
she sat in a doctor’s office. Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night
sweats, weight gain, and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the
removal of her ovary. She’s 32 years old. As she put it: “If my body indeed does
enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me
have my own children. I will have no chance at giving my mother her desperately
desired grandbabies, simply because the insurance policy that I paid for totally
unsubsidized by my school wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I
needed it.” Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that
come with having menopause at an early age-- increased risk of cancer, heart
disease, and osteoporosis, she may never be able to conceive a child.
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Here's the link... Read it

I gave you the link which you obviously didn't read. It's parts like the above testimony that I bolded which have lead to the inclusion of this requirement in the Act.

Further, if you read that and think she could be talking about condoms when she mentions coverage of prescriptions, and contraceptives, then I think I'm through typing posts to a wall.
 
captain morgan
#156
I have stated that those situations should be covered.. But that isn't the primary issue that Flukes is addressing here is it?
 
Tonington
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#157
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I have stated that those situations should be covered.. But that isn't the primary issue that Flukes is addressing here is it?

The primary issue she is addressing is the need for contraceptive coverage in health insurance plans, hence her testimony on that subject before Congress, relating to the new healthcare Act...
 
Icarus27k
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#158
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“No one with daughters the age of Sandra Fluke, and I have two, could possibly abide the insult and abuse heaped upon this courageous and well-intentioned young lady. Mr. Limbaugh, with his highly personal attacks on Miss Fluke, overstepped any reasonable bounds of decency. Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.” Carbonite (this is one of the companies that Limbaugh personally promotes by reading a script on his show)

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Cannuck
#159
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.

My insurance plan got beefed up in January. Our dental benefits improved drastically. I assume you, Rush and the Captain had your insurance premiums go up because of that. Please forgive me.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company.

GOD DAMNED uppity Negroes. Why the hell should white folks have to give up their front seats and have to move all the way to the back of the bus just because some folks aren't content with their lot in life. It all started when they let the women out of the kitchen.
 
captain morgan
+1 / -1
#160
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

My insurance plan got beefed up in January. Our dental benefits improved drastically. I assume you, Rush and the Captain had your insurance premiums go up because of that. Please forgive me.


You're still paying premiums? I though that all you inbred hillbilly's were toothless by 10 years old.

Anywho - that's great news overall... You paying permiums for a service that you can't use will offset my costs.
 
Cannuck
+1 / -1
#161
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

You're still paying premiums? I though that all you inbred hillbilly's were toothless by 10 years old.

Anywho - that's great news overall... You paying permiums for a service that you can't use will offset my costs.

I notice that you have ceased trying to defend your clearly indefensible position and instead have switched to personal attacks. That is a sure sign you have been....



Not that the outcome was ever in doubt. It was inevitable the second you aligned yourself with the drug addicted, misogynistic blowhard.
Last edited by Cannuck; Mar 6th, 2012 at 08:27 AM..
 
CDNBear
+1
#162
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

My understanding is that she would be paying for her own birth control through her insurance much like I am paying for my own "free" prescriptions through my Blue Cross coverage.

You pay for your own Blue Cross coverage?
 
captain morgan
+1
#163
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You pay for your own Blue Cross coverage?


That must be one of those special union perks in Lethbridge - Not including a minimal union administrative fee, you're permitted to pay your own health insurance.

Helluva deal, eh?
 
CDNBear
#164
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

That must be one of those special union perks in Lethbridge - Not including a minimal union administrative fee, you're permitted to pay your own health insurance.

Helluva deal, eh?

Interesting deal to say the least. I've never heard of a unionized worker having to buy his own health insurance before.
 
Tonington
#165
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

That must be one of those special union perks in Lethbridge - Not including a minimal union administrative fee, you're permitted to pay your own health insurance.

Helluva deal, eh?

According to this:
cupeab.cupe.ca/updir/cupeab/a...lethbridge.pdf (external - login to view)

It depends on the coverage someone chose. If they opt up, the employee pays 100%. Regardless, the employee pays 100% of their life insurance and Alberta Health Care premiums.
 
gerryh
#166
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

According to this:
cupeab.cupe.ca/updir/cupeab/a...lethbridge.pdf (external - login to view)

It depends on the coverage someone chose. If they opt up, the employee pays 100%. Regardless, the employee pays 100% of their life insurance and Alberta Health Care premiums.


There are no "Alberta Health Care Premiums".
 
Tonington
#167
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

There are no "Alberta Health Care Premiums".

I'm just quoting the agreement between Lethbridge and the union representing the Municipal workers:
b) The monthly premium costs for core benefits will be paid as follows:
i) Premiums for Core Extended Health Care and Core Dental Care will be
100% paid by the Employer.
ii) Premiums for Basic Life Insurance and Alberta Health Care will be 100%
paid by employees.
c) Should Alberta Healthcare premiums cease, the Employer will maintain the 2008
level of flex credits, in addition to any newly negotiated increases.
Which seems to be this:
Alberta Health Care Insurance Plan – Alberta Health and Wellness (external - login to view)
 
Cannuck
#168
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You pay for your own Blue Cross coverage?

Doesn't everybody?
 
gerryh
+4
#169
regardless, none of this has anything to do with the whiny bitch trying to get Catholic Doctorine changed through government legislation.
 
CDNBear
#170
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Doesn't everybody?

No. I pay 100% of my Blue Cross. But I'm not a unionized city employee like you've claimed to be.

Unless you were only talking about paying for upgrades. Is that the case?
 
L Gilbert
+2
#171
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

regardless, none of this has anything to do with the whiny bitch trying to get Catholic Doctorine changed through government legislation.

Or Limpbag and his big mouth.
 
CDNBear
+1
#172
"Limpbag"

 
Cannuck
#173
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

No. I pay 100% of my Blue Cross. But I'm not a unionized city employee like you've claimed to be.

Unless you were only talking about paying for upgrades. Is that the case?

I pay for my Blue cross as well. I'm pretty sure you would have a tough time finding somebody that doesn't.
 
gerryh
+3
#174
Union and you don't have an extended medical plan payed for? What kind of a candy assed union is that? I have full extended 100% payed for by my employer..... and we are NOT a union shop.
 
CDNBear
+1
#175
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I pay for my Blue cross as well.

100% of the whole package?
 
DaSleeper
+1
#176
Let's all quit dancing....what we mean is drug plan...not major medical.
 
gerryh
+2
#177
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Union and you don't have an extended medical plan payed for? What kind of a candy assed union is that? I have full extended 100% payed for by my employer..... and we are NOT a union shop.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Let's all quit dancing....what we mean is drug plan...not major medical.


extended....as in drug, dental, vision, chiropractor, massage, etc etc etc.... premiums 100% covered by my employer....I don't pay a dime and I don't work in a union shop.
 
Colpy
+1
#178
The entire situation is simply a radical attack by the Obama administration on freedom of religion.

Rush is a pig.

Obama is 1,000 times worse.
 
Tonington
#179
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The entire situation is simply a radical attack by the Obama administration on freedom of religion.

What makes it radical? The medical community has very clearly stated the health benefits and made specific recommendations, which were then incorporated into the healthcare act. It's not radical to listen to your doctor, even less so when it is the medical consensus...

Clinical Preventive Services for Women: Closing the Gaps - Institute of Medicine (external - login to view)
As a centerpiece of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) of 2010, the focus on preventive services is a profound shift from a reactive system that primarily responds to acute problems and urgent needs to one that helps foster optimal health and well-being. The ACA addresses preventive services for both men and women of all ages, and women in particular stand to benefit from additional preventive health services. The inclusion of evidence-based screenings, counseling and procedures that address women’s greater need for services over the course of a lifetime may have a profound impact for individuals and the nation as a whole.

Given the magnitude of change, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services charged the IOM with reviewing what preventive services are important to women’s health and well-being and then recommending which of these should be considered in the development of comprehensive guidelines. The IOM defined preventive health services as measures—including medications, procedures, devices, tests, education and counseling—shown to improve well-being, and/or decrease the likelihood or delay the onset of a targeted disease or condition. The IOM recommends that women’s preventive services include:
  • improved screening for cervical cancer, counseling for sexually transmitted infections, and counseling and screening for HIV;
  • a fuller range of contraceptive education, counseling, methods, and services so that women can better avoid unwanted pregnancies and space their pregnancies to promote optimal birth outcomes;
  • services for pregnant women including screening for gestational diabetes and lactation counseling and equipment to help women who choose to breastfeed do so successfully;
  • at least one well-woman preventive care visit annually for women to receive comprehensive services; and
  • screening and counseling for all women and adolescent girls for interpersonal and domestic violence in a culturally sensitive and supportive manner.

But that's your opinion I guess, that it's radical to prevent illness... Mine would be that opinions and beliefs should not be more important or carry more weight than the health and well being of others. To me, that's radical.
Last edited by Tonington; Mar 6th, 2012 at 08:32 PM..
 
gerryh
+1
#180
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

What makes it radical? The medical community has very clearly stated the health benefits and made specific recommendations, which were then incorporated into the healthcare act. It's not radical to listen to your doctor, even less so when it is the medical consensus...

But that's your opinion I guess. Mine would be that opinions and beliefs should not be more important or carry more weight than the health and well being of others. To me, that's radical.


The attack of a basic tenent of the Roman Catholic Faith. That's what is radical. What is next for the government to legislate?
 

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