Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Shooting people depends on context????????????????????????????? I thought you had said you were a pacifist.
I am a pacifist, but I'm also realistic and practical. Non-violence would not be an intelligent, realistic or practical reaction to an attack by a mad dog. If you can't outrun the dog, then even a pacifist would have to stand and fight. Non-violence is the first choice or the preferred choice. But in some cases DEPENDING ON CONTEXT
, even a pacifist has to resort to violence especially if non-violent options don't exist.
If you don't think context is important then you must believe that killing someone in self defense is the same as killing someone for their money.
Quote: Originally Posted by ironsides
Your sounding more like Nevel Chamberland everyday.
[FONT=Arial]Iran nuke work at bunker is confirmed
VIENNA (AP) — Diplomats on Monday confirmed a report that Iran has begun uranium enrichment at an underground bunker and said the news is particularly worrying because the site is being used to make material that can be upgraded more quickly for use in a nuclear weapon than the nation's main enriched stockpile.
The diplomats said that centrifuges at the Fordo site near Iran's holy city of Qom are churning out uranium enriched to 20 percent. That level is higher than the 3.5 percent being made at Iran's main enrichment plant and can be turned into fissile warhead material faster and with less work.
[FONT=Arial]Iran nuke work at bunker is confirmed - Yahoo! News (external - login to view)
The above article posted by IS is an example of deliberate spin and misinformation.
1) Iran already declared this facility to the IAEA in 2009 when it was still being excavated and more than a year before installing any equipment as per the voluntary confidence building NPT protocol that Iran ratified in 2003.
2) The IAEA has constantly monitored this site since Iran's announcement. IAEA inspectors supervised the completion of the facility, the installation of the centrifuges and now they monitor Iran's enrichment activities at this site. All enriched material produced in this facility is tracked by IAEA inspectors. Iran could not divert any enriched uranium from this facility without the IAEA noticing.
3) In theory, US led sanctions weren't supposed to interfere with Iran's ability to produce medical isotopes. Despite assurances that this would never happen, Iran can't buy the 20% enriched uranium fuel required for its medical isotope producing reactor anymore nor can they import medical isotopes. As a result, Iran now faces severe shortages of medical isotopes. People will die as a direct consequence of deliberate US interference in Iran's peaceful nuclear medicine program. Soon Iran will be able to use the 20% enriched uranium from this new facility to create fuel rods to power their medical isotope producing reactor and save thousands of lives.
UN Sanctions Hit Hospitals
Iran Running Out of Life-Saving Isotopes
...The sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council, aimed at moving Iran to halt its uranium enrichment program, are supposed to leave medical practice unaffected. In reality, however, Iran has become unable to procure a wide range of medical products. Body scanners cannot be imported from the US or the EU, since parts in these machines could also be useful to Iran's nuclear program. An embargo on medical isotopes was introduced in 2007, in defiance of the medical exception clause.
.. ...Iran might produce new fuel itself, which would prove a sensitive issue. Iran would need to enrich uranium up to 19.75 percent purity....
UN Sanctions Hit Hospitals: Iran Running Out of Life-Saving Isotopes - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International (external - login to view)
BTW, medical isotopes cannot be turned into nuclear weapons. US actions forced Iran to produce 20% enriched uranium in order to save lives. If the US and other nations weren't jerking Iran around they wouldn't have had a need to produce 20% enriched uranium.
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