Start of war? 15 Royal Marines and sailors seized by Iranians


hermanntrude
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I hope we do get another war.

It's not a christmas present you know. I hope you enlist and learn what war really is.
 
westmanguy
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#62
Do you want to stand back while Iran creates nuclear weapons that could one day eliminate you and your family?

I won't stand back.
 
hermanntrude
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Do you want to stand back while Iran creates nuclear weapons that could one day eliminate you and your family?

I won't stand back.

you stood back while britain did it, and india and pakistan
 
westmanguy
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#64
Britain and the USA are free democracies that make just majority decisions in their wars.

India, Pakistan, and Iran are dictatorships and that makes them bad.

The entire world must be converted to democracy.
 
talloola
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#65
Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

Ships today have satellite monitors that indicate their precise location. If the British ship was in international waters, its records would show that and they would easily have the UN on its side in this conflict. But it is only too obvious that Bush and Blair want a war in order to bolster thier criminal political ambitions.

I really don't think Blair wants, or has any "clout" at all to decide on a war with Iran. After the
gigantic mistake they made by joining Bush in Iraq, I'm sure he would rather do "anything" other
than join Bush in another disaster.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguyView Post

Britain darn well better go in and get those troops.

Do you mean like they did in Basra?
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CDNBear
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Do you mean like they did in Basra?
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Yep, kill them all, let Allah sort them out and get our lads freed.
 
MHz
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Yep, kill them all, let Allah sort them out and get our lads freed.

In Basra it was a Iraqi Police Station, the one you gave guns to the 'keep the peace' were the ones being attacked.

Under the current scheme of things it would be perfectly legal for Iran to keep them hidden for a few years and whatever else 'the west' has deemed appropriate as fair treatment.

The last people captured at sea were released after a few days in that 2004 incident. An short interview was shown with one of those guys. From his training when the vehicles stopped in the middle of nowhere after a long bumpy ride and they were lead away from the vehicles he thought he was a walking dead man. It would seem that his military training was telling him what he would be doing if he was holding the weapons. Fortunately for them it was only a bathroom break,

The boarding party would have had weapons, there were marines and navy on the two dingys.
Have you actually read the words that spell out the authority that the UK or US have in regards to smuggling? I haven't but I would sure like to.
Can they search ships heading away from Iraq?

Did you catch the UN webcast yesterday. Right at the end of the reporters questions it was said that Iran was going to hold a press conference at some Hotel at 11 the next morning. I even switched channels and did a web search, nothing not a word anywhere. If you missed the webcast the UN keeps it's records in something called an archive.

If you have seen it, notice how the US brings up events back to the 1940's, yet when questioned by reporters anything in the 'past' was not worth mentioning. (It was about Iran's FM bringing up that when Iraq went to war with Iran they used 'banned weapons supplied by the US , for one, and the UN Security Council did nothing about it for a week.)

When you lipsync the translator compared to the movement of the Iranian FM it is like those first attempts at Chinese/English movies. There are 10 sec pauses before the translator says anything, yet he stops almost as soon as the speakers lips move. I didn't notice anything like that in the translation done for other people.

Forgive me for wandering off topic
 
CDNBear
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In Basra it was a Iraqi Police Station, the one you gave guns to the 'keep the peace' were the ones being attacked.

I didn't supply anyone with any weapons. The "CDN" in CDNBear, stands for Canadian, thank gawd Harpo wasn't PM when that mess started, or you may have a point, but thankfully you don't.

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Under the current scheme of things it would be perfectly legal for Iran to keep them hidden for a few years and whatever else 'the west' has deemed appropriate as fair treatment.

Don't care. Kill anyone that gets in the way on the way in to get them.

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The last people captured at sea were released after a few days in that 2004 incident. An short interview was shown with one of those guys. From his training when the vehicles stopped in the middle of nowhere after a long bumpy ride and they were lead away from the vehicles he thought he was a walking dead man. It would seem that his military training was telling him what he would be doing if he was holding the weapons. Fortunately for them it was only a bathroom break,

More like he was well aware of the savagery of the psycotic f*ckers that were holding him. Another instance where an armed and extremely vicious response would have given me a hard on.

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The boarding party would have had weapons, there were marines and navy on the two dingys.

Ya, has me scratching my head, I woulda shot first and asked questions later and/or died trying.
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Have you actually read the words that spell out the authority that the UK or US have in regards to smuggling?

Nope, don't care either.

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I haven't but I would sure like to.

Keep looking, but I still don't care what they are.
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Can they search ships heading away from Iraq?

I actually think they can.

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Did you catch the UN webcast yesterday. Right at the end of the reporters questions it was said that Iran was going to hold a press conference at some Hotel at 11 the next morning. I even switched channels and did a web search, nothing not a word anywhere. If you missed the webcast the UN keeps it's records in something called an archive.

Don't care, but what is this ark ive thingy?

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If you have seen it, notice how the US brings up events back to the 1940's, yet when questioned by reporters anything in the 'past' was not worth mentioning. (It was about Iran's FM bringing up that when Iraq went to war with Iran they used 'banned weapons supplied by the US , for one, and the UN Security Council did nothing about it for a week.)

Something else I don't care about.

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When you lipsync the translator compared to the movement of the Iranian FM it is like those first attempts at Chinese/English movies. There are 10 sec pauses before the translator says anything, yet he stops almost as soon as the speakers lips move. I didn't notice anything like that in the translation done for other people.

Still don't care.

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Forgive me for wandering off topic

Forgiven!

I just want to add...

Go gettem, kill anything that stands in your way!!! Kill them all and let Allah sort them out!!!
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I didn't supply anyone with any weapons. The "CDN" in CDNBear, stands for Canadian, thank gawd Harpo wasn't PM when that mess started, or you may have a point, but thankfully you don't.

It still appears you 'wish you were there'. Probably better for the world if we keep you at home.
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Ya, has me scratching my head, I woulda shot first and asked questions later and/or died trying.

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Probably better if we also keep you away from heavy-equipment.
 
CDNBear
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It still appears you 'wish you were there'.

Nope, not in the slightest, if not only to rescue MIA's and or these fine Brit Sailors.

Till death do us part.

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Probably better for the world if we keep you at home.

Yep, under a big glass dome. With a sign on it that states in giant bold letters..

BREAK ONLY IN EVENT OF WAR

Oh ya, and...

Do not feed or poke the Bear
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Probably better if we also keep you away from heavy-equipment.

Good idea, but I'm handy in emergencies and areas of conflict!

But I would much prefer to lean on a 35 in the door, while signing loudly...

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvVBmhA6z6ieY

 
MHz
#72
We still have to feed you. You could state in your last will that you 'be merged' with a real polar bear, or several of them.

The last pic I saw of them 3 were sitting on a couch, an older couch.
 
CDNBear
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We still have to feed you.

Yep, just toss in the odd cow and the even more odd Liberal, I'll be all good.

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You could state in your last will that you 'be merged' with a real polar bear, or several of them.

Sure, but could we make that a Black Bear, that's my totem.

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The last pic I saw of them 3 were sitting on a couch, an older couch.

Who?
 
westmanguy
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#74
This is an act of war. Iran knows it.

If they will not surrender the troops peacefully, then Britain must go in and get them, and if it can't be a swift rescue:

WAR

We are going to war with Iran... inevitable.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Yep, just toss in the odd cow and the even more odd Liberal, I'll be all good.

Sure, but could we make that a Black Bear, that's my totem.


Who?

Can that be a 'downer cow'?
Your choice Banff is also cheaper to get to than Northern Manitoba.

The Brits in Iran, remember them?

Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguyView Post

We are going to war with Iran... inevitable.

Who is 'we'?
 
tamarin
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#76
Iran is playing a great game of chess! And what boldness! The US is still in Iraq. Two American carriers lie off Iranian shores. The UN has finally had a security council initiative against Iran passed unanimously. But here we have a nation studied in endgame, staring us down. And the Brits have already had their pants pulled down.
 
westmanguy
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United States, Britain, and Canada will be a war with Iran before 2008
 
Curiosity
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#78
Quote: Originally Posted by tamarinView Post

Iran is playing a great game of chess! And what boldness! The US is still in Iraq. Two American carriers lie off Iranian shores. The UN has finally had a security council initiative against Iran passed unanimously. But here we have a nation studied in endgame, staring us down. And the Brits have already had their pants pulled down.

I have a new idea

Why not let the U.N. appoint a special force to rescue these poor sods - and leave the U.K. and the U.S. out of it ?

Everyone is assuming it is the 'duty' of the U.S. to step in and the U.K. to rescue their men.

To get called 'warmongers' for it later...
 
CDNBear
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#79
Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguyView Post

United States, Britain, and Canada will be a war with Iran before 2008

Hey no one loves a good despot ass kicking more then this big old Bear, but I think we in the Great White North, might just sit this one out, thank gawd.

There is no need to poke Iran right now, just go in and get the Sailors and be done with it. A full scale war is a stupid move.
 
MHz
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Wasn't somebody also captured over in the very eastern part not too long ago? I think it was the same event where Iran displayed some captured arms of originating from the US.

This is way down the list on TV News top-stories, even after the 'entertainmemt sections'
 
westmanguy
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#81
Harper could easily be seduced by Bush.

And assuming Harper has a majority, we would be at war with Iran.

the USA has a grip on harper :: see:

 
darkbeaver
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#82
This is a deciding period of world governance and one that the existing system cannot survive. Iran is the key militarily,as seen from the American perspective,Iran can be flattened with nukes in which case both sides lose. I believe Iran will goad the Americans and the British into compounding the stupid mistakes they've already made. The politics on the street in the middle east have changed dramatically over the last five years even the countrys owned and allied to the western powers know that they can no longer sell out the interests of thier own people to the western powers. Israels humiliating defeat by Hezbolla has made it clear that politics and power will become regionally based in the ME and very soon.
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tamarin
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#83
"Iran can be flattened with nukes in which case both sides loose."
I don't get it. Loose what? It's a transitive verb. Loose....what?
 
darkbeaver
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#84
Sorry Tamarin just one of my mistokes.
 
hermanntrude
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kind of you to point it out though, tamarin
 
tamarin
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Herman, you started a spelling and grammar thread lately and it got me thinking. Sometimes errors occur that really do obfuscate meaning. I was just pointing it out. A little exercise in pedantry. Surely, we're all allowed a little kerfluffle now and then, aren't we, Herman?
 
hermanntrude
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I don't know. it seemed a little mean spirited to point that one out, since the meaning was obvious
 
gopher
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#88
I have been reading through the Guardian and have not come across any editorials calling for a war against Iran. While Tony B_liar is trying to salvage his failed regime, he cannot muster much popular sentiment for more international conflict.
 
hermanntrude
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yeah if he goes to war he'll have a bad time at home. Then again he hasnt got much left to lose... who knows what will happen. not us plebs that's for sure. we barely ever know actually DID happen
 
westmanguy
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#90
Iran PM on UN sanctions:

"continue negotiations or confrontation"

I am sorry guys, I don't want another war, you don't want another war, know one wants another war, but Iran does want a war.

The Iran threat has been bumped a level... things can only go to ways, Iran negotiates peacefully, or war starts.

Bush and Tony will declare war on Iran, and the cycle will continue...
 

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