Venzuela leads the world against USA

Karlin

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Of any nation, of any leader, it is Venezuela and Chavez who is the leading critic of American policy.
Thrust into this position by being socialist with oil reserves and economic potential, Chavez has not backed down in his pursuit of social and economic justice for his people that the USA has tried so hard to undo.

Now, Chavez has done the unthinkable, and removed his nation's currency from America. Liquidated his nation's USA investments, moved it to Europe.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?feed=AP&Date=20050930&ID=5157487


Chavez is the primary socialist leader because he does things like this:
Chavez again proposed the creation of a South American central bank that would hold the foreign exchange reserves of all the central banks in the region.

It is a power bloc against the USA's global dominance. Thats what they don't like him for.
Thats what I love him for.
Passionate approvals for Chavez are coming from all over the globe. Humanists, social equality pundits, and the great brown-skin majority all benefit from Chavez' actions and ideals.

Chavez also has a way of showing the USa's hypocracy in bright light. The case of a man accused of terrorism by the USA, and held there:
Venezuela formally asked in June that Posada Carriles, who is in U.S. custody on unrelated immigration charges, be extradited. Abbott yesterday said there was no guarantee that Posada Carriles wouldn't be tortured if he was sent to Cuba or Venezuela.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0929/dailyUpdate.html

Chavez points out that TORTURE is more likely for this man in the hands of USA authorities. See Mahar Arar's case eh? That gets full hearing now, in a court, as this mans case proceeds - that America does indeed DO TORTURE and therefore cannot hold Posada on the grounds of being tortured if let out of America.

"The long and short of it is that we are harbouring a terrorist," agreed Wayne Smith, who headed the US Interest Section in Havana in the late 1970s and early 1980s. "This is really a total farce."

Karlin

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Ha ha ha ha, farce-face bushevic, the bravado-bully boobhead we know as "BeeEllZeeBubba Bushburn the 2nd" , bombing Baghdaddians and Canaddians while flying on Meth!!
And that, while "What-A -Rush Limp-paw" praises every move and says any notion of wrong is unpatriotic as if freedom is necessarily dumped in times of war and war is continuous in American foreign policy averaging three 10,000lb. bombs per day for over 50 years on foreign soils - making Hungy Kissingherdeadbody the most mass murderer of all time, far ahead of Stalin and Hitler.
 

Nascar_James

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No one's going to take anything coming out of Chavez's mouth seriously. This joker is responsible for serious Human Rights violations against his own people. Ask his political opponents, how they were treated ... that is if you can locate them ...
 

Ocean Breeze

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More power to him ( Venezuela).

Interesting shifts of sand in the geopolitical sandunes.
 

Jo Canadian

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Re: RE: Venzuela leads the world against USA

Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Boy, that's going to stir the hornets nest.

It already has!

Unfortunately the truth hurts more than fiction. If the States is Not amused, there may be some pride at stake. Chav does take care of his poor better.
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Venzuela leads the world against USA

Jo Canadian said:
Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Boy, that's going to stir the hornets nest.

It already has!

Unfortunately the truth hurts more than fiction. If the States is Not amused, there may be some pride at stake. Chav does take care of his poor better.

He is a socialist leader. Takes money from the hard working folks to redistribute to those who don't want to work.

What do we say to the families of all the people who either disappeared were killed or tortured by Chavez's state security forces.....
 

Canucklehead

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Re: RE: Venzuela leads the world against USA

Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Boy, that's going to stir the hornets nest.

It already has!

Unfortunately the truth hurts more than fiction. If the States is Not amused, there may be some pride at stake. Chav does take care of his poor better.

He is a socialist leader. Takes money from the hard working folks to redistribute to those who don't want to work.

What do we say to the families of all the people who either disappeared were killed or tortured by Chavez's state security forces.....

As opposed to Reagan, Bush et al who do exactly the same thing? Oh, my bad! Sitting on yer duff on a yacht in the Carribean ordering some pleb to buy/sell this that or the other stock is hard work. :roll:
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Venzuela leads the world against USA

Canucklehead said:
Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Nascar_James said:
Jo Canadian said:
Boy, that's going to stir the hornets nest.

It already has!

Unfortunately the truth hurts more than fiction. If the States is Not amused, there may be some pride at stake. Chav does take care of his poor better.

He is a socialist leader. Takes money from the hard working folks to redistribute to those who don't want to work.

What do we say to the families of all the people who either disappeared were killed or tortured by Chavez's state security forces.....

As opposed to Reagan, Bush et al who do exactly the same thing? Oh, my bad! Sitting on yer duff on a yacht in the Carribean ordering some pleb to buy/sell this that or the other stock is hard work. :roll:

It is indeed hard work, very hard work. Takes dedication and talent. Particularly when playing the spikes. In the blink of an eye, you can lose a fortune.
 

Canucklehead

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RE: Venzuela leads the wo

Sorry, that's not hard work. It's manipulation of colleagues to get an inside scoop and hardly compares to the work of the welder or mould maker who made that yacht of his possible.
 

Ocean Breeze

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This joker is responsible for serious Human Rights violations against his own people.

now , now....the pot calling the kettle black??? You think this is not happening in the US now??? And then lest we forget how the US treats it's prisoners. Don't think the US has any room to talk. Not anymore. The world has seen for itself..... what the real US is , when the facade is removed. Interesting that the US removed its own mask......facade .....by accident . Murphy's law on the grand scale.
 

Texas1

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Don't worry he'll not wake up with a bullet in his head someday. and that will be that.
 

Tresson

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Texas1 said:
Don't worry he'll not wake up with a bullet in his head someday. and that will be that.

I'm pretty sure he wakes up without a bullet in his head everyday.
 

GL Schmitt

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Nascar_James said:
No one's going to take anything coming out of Chavez's mouth seriously. ...
Au contraire, mon Capitain!

I do.

And if Chavez can lead other OPEC nations away from using American currency, that will lead to the fall of the PetroDollar, and the rise (probably) of the PetroEuro.

It is the PetroDollar which has assured America’s affluence while running a trade deficit.

Trying to sell petroleum for Euros, not gassing Kurds or stockpiling non-existent weapons of mass destruction was, after all, Saddam’s true fatal sin.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Texas1 said:
Don't worry he'll not wake up with a bullet in his head someday. and that will be that.

sounds like wishful thinking , texas. :evil: :roll: :x

is THAT all you texans know??? Guns, bullets, assassinations??? The rest of the world has passed you all by.
 

PoisonPete2

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Nascar_James said:
No one's going to take anything coming out of Chavez's mouth seriously. This joker is responsible for serious Human Rights violations against his own people. Ask his political opponents, how they were treated ... that is if you can locate them ...

Answer - Obviously you know absolutely nothing about politics in Venezuela. The opposition to Chavez includes those who control the media. They tend to be very vocal against him, but you know what, the People are solidly behind him. It's called Democracy. Having lost yours perhaps you are a little jealous?

I was in Venezuela two elections ago, in Amazonia. The night before the election was like a carnival atmosphere. Each candidate spoke to a massive crowd and then great numbers of cars circled the city, each loaded with people singing and cheering. Around and around they went. The military had been given a long weekend leave. Their were some in the crown wearing army fatiques, but unarmed. Election day was much more orderly with an excellent turnout. A lot of poor people voting. A lot of aboriginals. Nothing like America with its Jim Crowe tradition.

Chavez is providing good leadership for his people and is now generating Pan-American interest. I really hope that the U.S. doesn't destroy this poplarist movement but actually starts encouraging it.
 

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Texas1 said:
Don't worry he'll not wake up with a bullet in his head someday. and that will be that.

If it does happen it will be the CIA or some other agency under control of USG. I don't believe the US likes real freedom and prosperity, lack of American influence like what is going on in Venezuela and USG may try to knock him off before other countries get the idea and follow Chavez's lead.

The USG is just ticked they can not control him, that he spoke the truth at UN last week and best of all threatened to cut off oil to America.

OH Boo Hoo tough titty for "W" somebody has balls to stand up to him.

Chavez is 1000 times the man "W" ever was or ever will be.

btw- is it just me or the religious right seem preoccupied with violence. It seems that all they talk about. Maybe thats why none of them comment on prisoner abuse. And hear I thought religious people were suppose to be kind, understanding and caring? I am glad I have no part of that hypocritical bull.
 

Texas1

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no1important said:
Texas1 said:
Don't worry he'll not wake up with a bullet in his head someday. and that will be that.

If it does happen it will be the CIA or some other agency under control of USG. I don't believe the US likes real freedom and prosperity, lack of American influence like what is going on in Venezuela and USG may try to knock him off before other countries get the idea and follow Chavez's lead.

The USG is just ticked they can not control him, that he spoke the truth at UN last week and best of all threatened to cut off oil to America.

OH Boo Hoo tough titty for "W" somebody has balls to stand up to him.

Chavez is 1000 times the man "W" ever was or ever will be.

btw- is it just me or the religious right seem preoccupied with violence. It seems that all they talk about. Maybe thats why none of them comment on prisoner abuse. And hear I thought religious people were suppose to be kind, understanding and caring? I am glad I have no part of that hypocritical bull.

1, do you really believe the stuff you post?
2, when was the last time you were in Venezuela and talked to the people that live there?
3, its funny all people like you think you know what’s good for everybody, here's a little info, YOU DON"T
4, it's not going to be anybody from the USG it will be from within.
5, maybe you should leave your parents basement and see the world instead of believing all the rhetoric you read on the left winged sites
6, do you really believe the stuff you post?
7, why does this site have all the anti religious people with a holy advisor tag ?