Venzuela leads the world against USA

Thats interesting about the evangelicals.
imperialistic ones at that.
I guess it has been that way for ever, Black Robe, etc.

did any indigenous people ever manage to turn religious people around? No - they don't try, it is of no use to them to make anyone believe what they believe. They are more secure in themselves I guess!

Poor nervous christians... MMoore's Columbine cartoon about Pilgrims summed that up good eh>?Scared, shooting guns at whatever moves, insecure. It is in their training, the religion does that to them.

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Thats interesting about the evangelicals.
imperialistic ones at that.
I guess it has been that way for ever, Black Robe, etc.

did any indigenous people ever manage to turn religious people around? No - they don't try, it is of no use to them to make anyone believe what they believe. They are more secure in themselves I guess!

Poor nervous christians... MMoore's Columbine cartoon about Pilgrims summed that up good eh>?Scared, shooting guns at whatever moves, insecure. It is in their training, the religion does that to them.

Fascinating hold this has on the human mind.....and humans actually volunteer to join such groups. Mind you ......America might have some military might..... but it is apparent that the population......as a poeple they are insecure. What would confirm this , is their continuous chest thumping about their country, their flag, THEIR ......(take your pick). Secure people/nations don't brag.........and don't 'need" to.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeQuote: Originally Posted by KarlinThats interesting about the evangelicals.
imperialistic ones at that.
I guess it has been that way for ever, Black Robe, etc.
did any indigenous people ever manage to turn religious people around? No - they don't try, it is of no use to them to make anyone believe what they believe. They are more secure in themselves I guess!
Poor nervous christians... MMoore's Columbine cartoon about Pilgrims summed that up good eh>?Scared, shooting guns at whatever moves, insecure. It is in their training, the religion does that to them.
Fascinating hold this has on the human mind.....and humans actually volunteer to join such groups. Mind you ......America might have some military might..... but it is apparent that the population......as a poeple they are insecure. What would confirm this , is their continuous chest thumping about their country, their flag, THEIR ......(take your pick). Secure people/nations don't brag.........and don't 'need" to.From the other point of view: One who is secure needn't bother to continually point out the shortcomings of...

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It's also worth noting that those short-comings threaten the safety of the rest of the planet.

Telling the truth is not badmouthing Uncle.

The U.S. have their nose in too many places these days. They had no business in Iraq, and they have no bisiness in Venezuala. The world would be better off if the U.S. found ways to conserve their own energy reserves instead of bullying other countries for theirs.

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Telling the truth is not badmouthing Uncle.

The U.S. have their nose in too many places these days. They had no business in Iraq, and they have no bisiness in Venezuala. The world would be better off if the U.S. found ways to conserve their own energy reserves instead of bullying other countries for theirs.

absolutely. Bullying is one thing........but actually killing people of another nation and setting up a puppet regime (Facsimile US) to grab the resources is another.

sorry the fingerpointing , badmouthing "arguement" don't wash. The US is the author of it's own "finger pointing" etc. IF it started to behave like the civilized nation it "claims" to be..... there might be less rage at the US(R) and population now. If the US is a parriah now..........it created that all by itself. Accountability for ones actions is not just some rhetoric.... for talking heads.

But I think some who voted for him are regretting doing it though, now.

And, if you are going to point fingers, it's the index finger. How about pointing it at the new cervical cancer vaccine that was developed in the US? Last week.

Telling the truth is not badmouthing Uncle.

The U.S. have their nose in too many places these days. They had no business in Iraq, and they have no bisiness in Venezuala. The world would be better off if the U.S. found ways to conserve their own energy reserves instead of bullying other countries for theirs.

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But I think some who voted for him are regretting doing it though, now.

Nope. If President Bush was permitted to run for a third term, I would surely vote for him again. I, like other folks in the US agree with many of his policies.

COULTER: They better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.

Yeah, the U.S. could crush us militarily, they could probably beat every other army on earth combined together.

A nation that was born by the sword, will in itself die by this sword.

It is the inherent nature of civilization and humanity.

US regime plans to invade Venezuela for oil




*** The US regime is planning to invade Venezuela to install a new government, or stage a coup to take control of the nation's vast oil reserves, according to intelligence seen by the Venezuelan President, Hugo Chavez. ***

US planning invasion, says Chavez

Venezuela's President, Hugo Chavez, says he is in possession of intelligence showing that the United States plans to invade his country.

In a BBC interview, Mr Chavez said the US was after his nation's oil, much as it had been after Iraq's.

But he stressed that any invasion would never be allowed to happen.

Mr Chavez has long accused Washington of being behind what he describes as a coup - claims the United States denies.

An attempt to unseat him three years ago was aborted.

The Venezuelan president was interviewed by the BBC's Robin Lustig in Paris, while on an official visit to France.

Asked why he thought the US was trying to invade Venezuela, Mr Chavez said: "We have denounced intentions.

"A coup happened in Venezuela that was prepared by the US. What do they want? Our oil, as they did in Iraq.

"We have detected with intelligence reports plans of a supposed invasion, one that would never happen. But we have to denounce it," Mr Chavez said.

Recently a US TV evangelist, Pat Robertson, called for his assassination. Mr Chavez said this would be "cheaper than invading Venezuela".

Mr Robertson's remarks were described by the US State Department as "inappropriate", and Mr Robertson later apologised for them.

'No threat'

Mr Chavez went on to describe the US as a terrorist government.

"It is an imperialist government, one that says it fights against terrorism but protects it. The US throws stones to Latin America.

"But apart from that, Venezuela is the world's fifth oil exporter, and we send a million and a half barrels to the US every day," he added.

"We sell oil to people. Another thing is our political differences that I wish could be toned down."

He also denied claims that Venezuela was a threat to the international community, saying that his country wanted open relations with the whole world - a multi-polar world - but "with respect".

"George W Bush should not have any reason to fear. If he does it is because he has a dark ghost in his subconscious," he said.

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. . . "George W Bush should not have any reason to fear. If he does it is because he has a dark ghost in his subconscious,". . .

Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of the bush cabal.. . .