Pickup truck drivers are the worst drivers on the road..


#juan
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You would think that if one was driving at the prescribed 110 kph on a mountain highway, the most likely vehicle to pass you would be a Porche, or a Mustang GT, or something low, sleek, and Italian............But no...........On a recent trip to Calgary and back, the vehicles that passed me on a corner, or on a blind hill while I was going seventy miles an hour, were mostly big, four door, pickup trucks. Pickup truck drivers seem to be unaware that their vehicles require twice the distance to stop in an emergency than most cars. In Nanaimo, where I live, there have recently been a number of accidents involving these big, overpowered, gas guzzling monsters. Owning and using one of these vehicles to commute back and forth to work, is both irresponsible and stupid.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

You would think that if one was driving at the prescribed 110 kph on a mountain highway, the most likely vehicle to pass you would be a Porche, or a Mustang GT, or something low, sleek, and Italian............But no...........On a recent trip to Calgary and back, the vehicles that passed me on a corner, or on a blind hill while I was going seventy miles an hour, were mostly big, four door, pickup trucks. Pickup truck drivers seem to be unaware that their vehicles require twice the distance to stop in an emergency than most cars. In Nanaimo, where I live, there have recently been a number of accidents involving these big, overpowered, gas guzzling monsters. Owning and using one of these vehicles to commute back and forth to work, is both irresponsible and stupid.

Not bright to be sure. But are these trucks not being given away at bargain prices. Power is one thing in a vehicle designed for it but a pick-up ... I think not.

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L Gilbert
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lol
The purpose of a pickup has changed. They used to be for scooting into town to bring back lumber and things of that nature. Now they are partially a fashion statement (or something of that nature) and partially security blanket for the owner.
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

Not bright to be sure. But are these trucks not being given away at bargain prices. Power is one thing in a vehicle designed for it but a pick-up ... I think not.

scratch

Wrong. The worst drivers are those that drive those pi$$assed little compacts who dart in and out and think they are invincible... until they are smeared all across the highway when they tangle with a pick-up.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

Wrong. The worst drivers are those that drive those pi$$assed little compacts who dart in and out and think they are invincible... until they are smeared all across the highway when they tangle with a pick-up.

......... and minivan drivers who think they can drive their minivans like they are driving sports vehicles.

BTW, I think some of the compact drivers' attitude is the same as the attitude of short men .... I call it the little big-man syndrome.
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

lol
The purpose of a pickup has changed. They used to be for scooting into town to bring back lumber and things of that nature. Now they are partially a fashion statement (or something of that nature) and partially security blanket for the owner.

I have a pick-up because I tow a boat and am constantly haulling stuff to and from my cottage. It is by no means a speed machine.

A fashion statement? A security blanket? I don't think so!
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

I have a pick-up because I tow a boat and am constantly haulling stuff to and from my cottage. It is by no means a speed machine.

A fashion statement? A security blanket? I don't think so!

And I use mine for transporting heavy loads like lumber, cement, machines, and such, too. So, what? However, I see many people driving pickups so they can carry groceries home. I see celebrities spending hundreds of thousands on stereos and wonderful paintjobs for their pickups. I see people driving pickups because they like being able to see over compacts. I see people driving pickups because they feel safer.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

And I use mine for transporting heavy loads like lumber, cement, machines, and such, too. So, what? However, I see many people driving pickups so they can carry groceries home. I see celebrities spending hundreds of thousands on stereos and wonderful paintjobs for their pickups. I see people driving pickups because they like being able to see over compacts. I see people driving pickups because they feel safer.

And they are safer in pick-ups.

I also see great paint jobs on muscle cars, stereos worth thousands of dollars in compacts, so what is your point????
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

And they are safer in pick-ups.

I also see great paint jobs on muscle cars, stereos worth thousands of dollars in compacts, so what is your point????

That's actually not true.Pickups are not safer.

Here's an amusing story from an ER doc forum:

Here's a twist on this idea:

Recently, a man was brought in to the ER to see me, who had been in a car crash and was pretty banged up. His pickup truck was hit head on by another vehicle. He repeatedly stated how lucky he was that he was in his 6000 pound truck and that it probably saved his life. Nevertheless, he had significant injuries, fractures, cuts and abrasions and the truck was completely totalled. I asked him what kind of car hit him.



“It was an old lady in a Subaru,” he said.

“Wow, what happened to her?” I asked, assuming she had been flown to another hospital.

“Oh she walked away,” he said, clearly perturbed that she was uninjured despite her tree-hugger car.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

That's actually not true.Pickups are not safer.

Here's an amusing story from an ER doc forum:

Here's a twist on this idea:

Recently, a man was brought in to the ER to see me, who had been in a car crash and was pretty banged up. His pickup truck was hit head on by another vehicle. He repeatedly stated how lucky he was that he was in his 6000 pound truck and that it probably saved his life. Nevertheless, he had significant injuries, fractures, cuts and abrasions and the truck was completely totalled. I asked him what kind of car hit him.



“It was an old lady in a Subaru,” he said.

“Wow, what happened to her?” I asked, assuming she had been flown to another hospital.

“Oh she walked away,” he said, clearly perturbed that she was uninjured despite her tree-hugger car.

...not surprised....have seen a Mini take on a Lincoln and win...
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

And they are safer in pick-ups.

I also see great paint jobs on muscle cars, stereos worth thousands of dollars in compacts, so what is your point????

I already said my point. Not my problem if you can't understand it. But I will explain it again, pickups are not solely used for utilitarian purposes, but also for aesthetic purposes and the illusion of safety.
Here's a metaphor describing our conversation for you: I say, water is for dissolving things in and providing something for fish to swim in. You say I am wrong and that it is for drinking.

I say you are right but I am not wrong.
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

I already said my point. Not my problem if you can't understand it. But I will explain it again, pickups are not solely used for utilitarian purposes, but also for aesthetic purposes and the illusion of safety.
Here's a metaphor describing our conversation for you: I say, water is for dissolving things in and providing something for fish to swim in. You say I am wrong and that it is for drinking.

I say you are right but I am not wrong.

So what? People use pick-ups for several things. Same as Corvettes, VWs, Porches, Civics, etc etc.
 
AL67
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Last time I checked this was still a free country, you can drive what ever hell the law will allow you, you drive what you can afford, I drive a pick-up because I have a camper, boat, sleds I don,t drive it to be cool or to make a statement, that is what I require and need.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

So what? People use pick-ups for several things. Same as Corvettes, VWs, Porches, Civics, etc etc.

lol Are you deliberately being obtuse?
If not, it is as I said; if you cannot see my point, it is not my fault.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

lol Are you deliberately being obtuse?
If not, it is as I said; if you cannot see my point, it is not my fault.

The thing is your point is pointless.....
 
Tonington
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I drove a nice little pick-up truck this summer, as well as last summer. My dad's 4-cylinder S-10. Good on gas, and has the space to haul my landscaping tools/supplies when needed. Wouldn't handle a load of pavers very well, but that's what the bigger work trucks were for

Also, I would have been the guy that drivers in those Duramax and Cummins beasts were swearing at through the Crowsnest pass. Some of those hills were hard on that little truck! lol
Lean forward Dad! lol
 
L Gilbert
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You are funny. I haven't heard anyone else complaining so apparently you are the only one that thinks that I don't have a point. This indicates that you are the only one that cannot understand my point. I am sorry for you.

As I said, to a lot of people the purpose of having a pickup truck has changed. They are used for aesthetics and a sense of security as well. If one takes an item with a single use and starts using it for a couple other purposes, there will indubitably be more of that item around in a short timespan. More uses for the pickup leads to more pickups which leads to more drivers using them which leads to more bad drivers using them. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp for most people.

I have another point, there are bad drivers in ANY kind of vehicle. To state that pickup drivers are the worst is simply ranting unless you can back the statement up with evidence.
Last edited by L Gilbert; Oct 19th, 2008 at 03:53 PM..
 
#juan
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I couldn't resist this one.

There’s an old joke that pickup trucks don’t have “black box” recorders because before every accident you’d hear the same thing, “Hey woman, hold my beer and watch this…“
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

You are funny. I haven't heard anyone else complaining so apparently you are the only one that thinks that I don't have a point. This indicates that you are the only one that cannot understand my point. I am sorry for you.

I have another point, there are bad drivers in ANY kind of vehicle. To state that pickup drivers are the worst is simply ranting unless you can back the statement up with evidence.

LOL, I think if you check back in this thread, it was not me who complained that pick-up drivers were the worst. Not only you talk pointless points you can't read as well...
 
#juan
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Just this morning I saw a big gap in the guard rail where a pick up truck tried to out run a sand truck.

http://tinyurl.com/66cf4a
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

LOL, I think if you check back in this thread, it was not me who complained that pick-up drivers were the worst. Not only you talk pointless points you can't read as well...

Not really. If you weren't so dense, you'd realize that I wasn't saying you were complaining about pickup drivers; I was commenting that you were complaining about not understanding my point.
Now I have decided that you are being obtuse on purpose. Please point it at someone else for a while.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Not really. If you weren't so dense, you'd realize that I wasn't saying you were complaining about pickup drivers; I was commenting that you were complaining about not understanding my point.
Now I have decided that you are being obtuse on purpose. Please point it at someone else for a while.

Not being obtuse, if your only point was that pick-ups are now being used for things other than the original use, so be it, WHO CARES?? Other vehicles are used for things other than their original purpose too.
 
lone wolf
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Having logged well over a million accident free miles in some extremely large trucks, I can say with certainty that idiots are not confined to any one type vehicle. The ones that always made me shake my head were those fools who would race an oncoming vehicle to that place twenty feet ahead and to the left of my front bumper - while displaying a "Baby on Board" sign in the back window.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Having logged well over a million accident free miles in some extremely large trucks, I can say with certainty that idiots are not confined to any one type vehicle. The ones that always made me shake my head were those fools who would race an oncoming vehicle to that place twenty feet ahead and to the left of my front bumper - while displaying a "Baby on Board" sign in the back window.

I agree.

But don't get me started on the 'Baby on Board' signs. One thing that freally gets me are those single riders who are too lazy to take down that sign when the kid isn't in the car. Can you imagind a car on fire or other serious trouble and a good citizen sees that sign and tries to rescue a non existant baby?
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

I agree.

But don't get me started on the 'Baby on Board' signs. One thing that freally gets me are those single riders who are too lazy to take down that sign when the kid isn't in the car. Can you imagind a car on fire or other serious trouble and a good citizen sees that sign and tries to rescue a non existant baby?

My brother is a firefighter/rescue diver from over near your cottage. Very late last fall, someone went off the Chemong causeway and the ice. That stupid sign was cause for some great anxiety ... until the driver reported she'd just dropped the little guy off at daycare.
 
karrie
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The worst drivers are self centered drivers who cut people off and take stupid risks in traffic. It's been my experience that there are more of them (or more notable ones) in pickups and large SUV's, because they feel safer. So they don't care if they're cutting you off and making you slam on your brakes... THEY'RE safe. They have 4 wheel drive and don't give a hoot. Now, don't get me wrong... those drivers aren't the norm. But, give a large vehicle to someone reckless and self centered, and, they become all you remember about your drive that day. While I may brush off the idiot who nearly hits my minivan with his car with an annoyed mutter, when you encounter the exact same incident with a pickup or an SUV, and that bumper is at your child's head level instead of down by the door where there are specially designed panels to deal with the impact, it will stick in my memory and consciousness to a much higher degree.
 
#juan
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Could somebody tell me why we have four door pickup trucks with a six foot box and a 400 HP V8 engine that gets about 10 mpg?
This is a vehicle that will typically stop from 60mph in about three hundred feet. This is about a hundred and forty feet longer than your average Honda sedan. Put a couple thousand pounds in that short little box and you have an accident looking for a place to happen.
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Could somebody tell me why we have four door pickup trucks with a six foot box and a 400 HP V8 engine that gets about 10 mpg?
This is a vehicle that will typically stop from 60mph in about three hundred feet. This is about a hundred and forty feet longer than your average Honda sedan. Put a couple thousand pounds in that short little box and you have an accident looking for a place to happen.

Well my pick-up has 2 doors plus extended cab ( 2 x half doors) and a V-6. It is my only vehicle, so comes in handy when transporting the family. So don't put all pick-ups and pick-up drivers in the same basket....
 
Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

You would think that if one was driving at the prescribed 110 kph on a mountain highway, the most likely vehicle to pass you would be a Porche, or a Mustang GT, or something low, sleek, and Italian............But no...........On a recent trip to Calgary and back, the vehicles that passed me on a corner, or on a blind hill while I was going seventy miles an hour, were mostly big, four door, pickup trucks. Pickup truck drivers seem to be unaware that their vehicles require twice the distance to stop in an emergency than most cars. In Nanaimo, where I live, there have recently been a number of accidents involving these big, overpowered, gas guzzling monsters. Owning and using one of these vehicles to commute back and forth to work, is both irresponsible and stupid.

Juan, did you happen to notice if any of these trucks had a company name or US DOT# either on
the doors or on the rear-side windows? Where these the one-ton duel wheel trucks mostly???
Did they have rock-guard skirts at the back of the box to a couple of inches from the ground?
If so, and you didn't get a name off the truck, what color where the decals?

Once you leave the realm of the gas engine and go diesel (3500 GM or Dodge, or the F350 Fords),
with their torque when unloaded and turbocharged, and many of the haulers (of RV's anyway) have
stripped away the factory exhaust (to run oversized with less backpressure) and performance chips
(stretching out their shifts for more power yet better mileage), these turn into very quick machines.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Could somebody tell me why we have four door pickup trucks with a six foot box and a 400 HP V8 engine that gets about 10 mpg?
This is a vehicle that will typically stop from 60mph in about three hundred feet. This is about a hundred and forty feet longer than your average Honda sedan. Put a couple thousand pounds in that short little box and you have an accident looking for a place to happen.

We have them because some people need them. We run a 3/4 ton long box on weekends and some evenings, because we had a house to strip of stucco, a yard to dig out and re-do, and assorted projects that have and will require gyproc, lumber, and various other goods that I simply can't carry in the minivan, and need too often to pay for delivery constantly. But we drive it accordingly. We don't think it's a tank that will keep us safe no matter what. We know it's limits.
 

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