Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack
Come on Praxius...on the level...
A lot and I mean a lot of your posts are more than "CONSTRUCTIVE" critisism. We read them...they are out there for all to read. I agree with some of your views but then you just lose a lot of folks here because you have set your feet firmly in "THAT" crowd.
And once again as explained countless times before, and evidence provided, My feet and position rarely stay in one spot to begin with, on many topics.
The problem here is when I throw out the comparisons between the two countries, they are obviously based on my own personal experiences and opinion..... thereby you will most likely see that I have a "Hate" or a "Like" towards what I am talking about or comparing.
Just because I hate something or a situation in which is the current topic, or I make it sound like I prefer one thing over another, that still does not mean I hate all of something, or I position myself in one section of thinking. I isolate my posts and opinions to each thread and topic, because each thread and topic is different (Or they'd be all one thread to begin with)
There are a lot of things in the US I personally hate. There are plenty of things even I take offense to when being compared to the US... I am sure you yourself have a few things that bug or PO you when being compared to Canada or any other country..... but do you yourself directly hate that country in question? Probably not. I listed off a few things I hate that goes on in the US that seems more rampant then here in Canada. To me, those are issues which need to be addressed before I can coment positively on them.
But that does not mean I hate everything the US and its people stand for and I wish for them to all die.
I am not anti-american. If I am, so be it, but it is anti-american towards where your country has ended up since Bush came into power. Before that, when Clinton was President, things in the US were still not perfect, but you sure didn't hear me bitching about the problems. You guys were just another country. A bit overly proud of yourselves (Still are to a degree) but I wasn't out there to take that away from you guys and try and pump us or anything else as better.
Before Bush, you guys actually had a good excuse to pump yourselves up.
You've called US soldiers pigs,
Show me a source where I have called US Soldiers "pigs." ~ I may have called a soldier here or there a few names, but I wouldn't go around generalizing the entire force based on a select few troops.
I will, however, generalize based on common trends and reports of things occuring at the hands of US troops and if there seems to be no action to resolving the said situations, then of course it then becomes generalized, because then what's actually stopping it from being true? Nothing. So once in a while, I'll go and rattle some cages and piss a few people off and say a few things to get the attention to the topic. That still doesn't mean I hate you guys.
But please, show me where I called all US Soldiers pigs and I will correct myself. I have a funny feeling this is yet another example where I was taken out of context.
chime in on every US bashing thread...gosh I could go on.
Actually there have been a good select number of those threads I specifically avoided because they were US Bashing threads. But if the topic has something interesting about it, and I have a comment I want to post..... and if I want to express my feelings and opinion on that topic, then I very damn well will.
Heck you were even sucking up to that German guy trying to distance yourself and Canada from the US wrt Afghanistan. A country (Germany) with a military probably double than yours sitting in the rear with the gear not wanting to get dirty. But instead of letting him have it you handled him with kid gloves and accused the US of carpet bombing villages.
Oh, so you didn't notice the difference in communication between us did you? He responded maturely and I listened fairly to what he had to say, as he did to I. He explained his position clearly and I did the same.
Here, you both are Telling
me how I think and what I am without actually listening to what is being said. Do you see the difference?
Oh, and if you continued reading through that thread you mentioned, you would notice that after I took more time to read through his posts, I responded directly as I would have anybody else..... but since he didn't give me attitude, I responded as directly, yet as fair as possible.
The same country that marched hundreds of captured Canadian soldiers and executed them in WWII, the same country that expected Canadians to be there if the balloon went up during the Cold War, the same country that now sits nice and cozy out of harms way (pretty much) you felt you had to coddle him and take the opportunity to rip the US.
If you are trying to get an emotional appeal from me based on things that occured long before I was born, then you have a lot of work to do.
Those things occured in the past and attempting to bitch him out because he lives in a country with a history like the above and where he directly was never involved in those matters, would be just plain silly.
However, I may appear to bitch the US out a lot, because the US is currently doing many potientially dangerous things in our time right now.... heck even as I type this. My opinions and possibly loud mouth ways are due to the desire of preventing the past from repeating. Bitching and moaning about things which already occured half a century ago isn't going to fix anything. And I assure you that if it was any other country doing these things, then they would get equal flack.... it has nothing to do with you guys being from the States or being the US..... it's just plainly that most of the problems I comment on are related to the US..... sad but true, but that still doesn't mean I am Anti-American.
[quote]It amazed me to read that and I couldn't even comment because I realized...
"Well Prax is obviously one of those Canadians that just hates America and Americans...no matter what."[quote]
no matter what.... indeed.
I am also pretty sure you have no idea about the family in which I have in the US, let alone other areas of the planet. I know plenty of people from the US, and I know plenty of people from elsewhere..... just because you are from the US, doesn't automatically make me hate you or think you're some inbred redneck..... just as I would imagine you don't directly think I'm some maple syrup swilling lumber jack with beaver boots.
Oh well...like I said this is just being on the level and not meant to inflame. You are entitled to your own opinion as we all are.
Fair enough, and as you just seen in this post, I also attempted to be on the level with you as well. (Just like the member from Germany you commented about) You presented your opinions and views about me in a somewhat decent level, and I attempted my best to explain better my positions, that is all one can do.
All I would request next time is when I present a post or comment that you may feel is negative about the US, please pay attention to it being only towards the topic in question or what was said in a topic.
I have no real hatred for any one country or people of a country.
The majority of any hatred I have in relation to the US, is usually geared towards George Bush, his Administration and the US government in general to date. I realize how much they screw you guys over and have taken what your country was (Which was good) to something which I personally feel is a shell of what it was and that alone pisses me off.
But that is not anti-american.... if anything, that's pro. I've been waiting for you guys to pull a revolution anyday now and I'd be right there to help along if I could. (But it's not my country to interfeer).