Israel and Genocide: Reality Check

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Claim by Saleh al-Arouri, a founder of Hamas's military wing, is doubted by experts and not supported by other Hamas sources


According to Matthew Levitt, an analyst with the Washington Institute, al-Arouri was forced to leave Israel in 2010 after serving more than 15 years in prison for actions related to his Hamas membership. He lived in exile in Syria until the unrest during the Arab spring, when he moved to Turkey.Hugh Lovatt, Israel and Palestine coordinator at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said that while al-Arouri was a significant Hamas figure – serving as the group's most prominent representative in Turkey – the former militant could have an ulterior motive for making his claim.
"Given the timing I would be very suspicious about his claim. I still don't believe Hamas as an organisation and its upper echelons sanctioned the kidnappings – something that Israeli intelligence also believes," he said.



Hamas official: we were behind the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers | World news | The Guardian

LOL!!

Uh huh.

BTW, lovely Iran?? On the Human Rights world scale, Iran ranks 167 out of 216.

Countries

Not so good, huh??
 

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469 Gaza children killed, over 370,000 need ‘psychosocial aid’ – UNICEF

At least 469 children have been killed and over 3,000 injured in Gaza since the start of the Israeli offensive, a senior UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) official said, adding that more than 370,000 Palestinian kids require “immediate psychosocial first aid.”

I would call that, without the slightest hesitation, a terrible thing.

Hamas is fully responsible. So far Hamas has broken 11 cease fires. Eleven.

As UNICEF considers a child to be any person under the age of 18, the stats also demonstrate the lengths to which the IDF has gone to avoid civilian casualties.

There are at least 2016 dead in Gaza. The median age in Gaza is 18 years, so 50% of the population are children, yet less than 25% of the casualties are children. Were the IDF targeting civilians at random, there would be twice the number of dead children.

And that does not even take into account that some of the dead children may well have been combatants.
 

DaSleeper

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Colpy.....You're wasting your time trying to use reason on Dumb, fanatical, narrow minded, ideologues who will forever wear those blinders against common sense, and believe in every conspiracy imaginable, if it's somewhat in line with their convoluted view of the world.
You certainly have more patience than I do....
Watching them attempt to validate their view is like watching someone try to put a right hand thread nut on a left hand thread bolt....
 

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And that does not even take into account that some of the dead children may well have been combatants.
What and incredibly stupig fuking thing to say, let alone even think.

Colpy.....You're wasting your time trying to use reason on Dumb, fanatical, narrow minded, ideologues who will forever wear those blinders against common sense, ...
Excuse the rest of the world for not knowing how deadly children and infants are. You really are asleep.
 

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There are at least 2016 dead in Gaza. The median age in Gaza is 18 years, so 50% of the population are children, yet less than 25% of the casualties are children. Were the IDF targeting civilians at random, there would be twice the number of dead children.

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You should really quit quoting those numbers as it shows that Israel is targeting a specific group. The children should be at the same level as they are in Canada, the reason they aren't is the population that should be the highest have all been killed in random Israeli operation with that sole purpose in mind. The high ratio for children is not that they are protected it is that their older ones are being killed off in very large numbers
Canada
0-14 years: 15.5% (male 2,764,691/female 2,628,413)
15-24 years: 12.7% (male 2,267,210/female 2,142,085)
25-54 years:41% (male 7,244,109/female 7,052,512)
55-64 years: 13.5% (male 2,336,202/female 2,380,703)
65 years and over: 17.3% (male 2,670,482/female 3,348,434) (2014 est.)

Gaza
0-14 years: 43.2% (male 402,848/female 381,155)
15-24 years: 20.6% (male 191,710/female 182,405)
25-54 years: 30.1% (male 280,551/female 266,756)
55-64 years: 3.5% (male 31,711/female 31,515)
65 years and over:2.6% (male 19,617/female 28,111) (2014 est.)

CrossTalk: Gaza Under Siege - YouTube

Proving DaS right again.
Try to keep up, it was Colpy who said the children were probably armed to the teeth. Nice to see stupid is a common traid amounst the ones who celebrate killing babies.
 

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You should really quit quoting those numbers as it shows that Israel is targeting a specific group. The children should be at the same level as they are in Canada, the reason they aren't is the population that should be the highest have all been killed in random Israeli operation with that sole purpose in mind. The high ratio for children is not that they are protected it is that their older ones are being killed off in very large numbers
Canada
0-14 years: 15.5% (male 2,764,691/female 2,628,413)
15-24 years: 12.7% (male 2,267,210/female 2,142,085)
25-54 years:41% (male 7,244,109/female 7,052,512)
55-64 years: 13.5% (male 2,336,202/female 2,380,703)
65 years and over: 17.3% (male 2,670,482/female 3,348,434) (2014 est.)

Gaza
0-14 years: 43.2% (male 402,848/female 381,155)
15-24 years: 20.6% (male 191,710/female 182,405)
N 25-54 years: 30.1% (male 280,551/female 266,756)
55-64 years: 3.5% (male 31,711/female 31,515)
65 years and over:2.6% (male 19,617/female 28,111) (2014 est.)

CrossTalk: Gaza Under Siege - YouTube


Try to keep up, it was Colpy who said the children were probably armed to the teeth. Nice to see stupid is a common traid amounst the ones who celebrate killing babies.
Reread #305 &306. And you proved DaS right yet again. Your blind hatred of Jews is getting tiresome. Go live in one of these terrorist run countries you love so much.
 

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Reread #305 &306. And you proved DaS right yet again. Your blind hatred of Jews is getting tiresome. Go live in one of these terrorist run countries you love so much.
It's like the 3 little pigs in the slop, 'Infant combatants', . . how retarded and that includes anybody that supports the notion.
I'm going to bet that not one child was harmed as the Israeli stooges were eliminated.
http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-security-official-says-hamas-killed-11-suspected-081059645.html

Your blind hatred of Jews is getting tiresome.
I'm pretty sure I would have the same attitude to any military that targets women and children. The South American death squads wasn't a Jewish operation was it and I feel the same way about them so perhaps it is your blinders that is effecting the view.
 

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I'm pretty sure I would have the same attitude to any military that targets women and children. The South American death squads wasn't a Jewish operation was it and I feel the same way about them so perhaps it is your blinders that is effecting the view.
You keep repeating the same bullshyte so often, that you believe it....
But don't expect everyone else to believe it when hamas purposely puts weapons caches and rocket launchers where women and children are present.
And you are too obtuse to understand...and you must still be in Gobbels time period if you believe that if you repeat your bullshyte often enough that people will believe you.....well maybe some like the obsessed one:roll:
 

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Talk about exposing your own flaws, is that your confession?

You keep repeating the same bullshyte so often, that you believe it....
But don't expect everyone else to believe it when hamas purposely puts weapons caches and rocket launchers where women and children are present.
 

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In a related matter, a "liberal" Jew hater who had been posting anti-semitic hate online got busted:



The Double Identity of an "Anti-Semitic" Commenter | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community



Like many other news websites, Common Dreams has been plagued by inflammatory anti-Semitic comments following its stories. But on Common Dreams these posts have been so frequent and intense they have driven away donors from a nonprofit dependent on reader generosity.

A Common Dreams investigation has discovered that more than a thousand of these damaging comments over the past two years were written with a deceptive purpose by a Jewish Harvard graduate in his thirties who was irritated by the website's discussion of issues involving Israel.

His intricate campaign, which he has admitted to Common Dreams, included posting comments by a screen name, "JewishProgressive," whose purpose was to draw attention to and denounce the anti-Semitic comments that he had written under many other screen names.

The deception was many-layered. At one point he had one of his characters charge that the anti-Semitic comments and the criticism of the anti-Semitic comments must be written by "internet trolls who have been known to impersonate anti-Semites in order to then double-back and accuse others of supporting anti-Semitism"--exactly what he was doing ....






Evidently, he was not a liberal after all but a hate filled right wing troll who was stirring up trouble.
 

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You'd think a state completely innocent of genocide would lead the call to have themselves excused of the charges both by the courts and the ensuing media reporting of the found Innocence. There must be a logical reason for Israel to avoid the opportunity to silence it's accusers.

Colonel Cassad (in English) - Junta war crimes –Â*Luhansk 08/13

Meanwhile, in Ukraine the western backed Junta commits similar acts against it's eastern leaning fellow citizens. The material is graphic.
 

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You should really quit quoting those numbers as it shows that Israel is targeting a specific group. The children should be at the same level as they are in Canada, the reason they aren't is the population that should be the highest have all been killed in random Israeli operation with that sole purpose in mind. The high ratio for children is not that they are protected it is that their older ones are being killed off in very large numbers
Canada
0-14 years: 15.5% (male 2,764,691/female 2,628,413)
15-24 years: 12.7% (male 2,267,210/female 2,142,085)
25-54 years:41% (male 7,244,109/female 7,052,512)
55-64 years: 13.5% (male 2,336,202/female 2,380,703)
65 years and over: 17.3% (male 2,670,482/female 3,348,434) (2014 est.)

Gaza
0-14 years: 43.2% (male 402,848/female 381,155)
15-24 years: 20.6% (male 191,710/female 182,405)
25-54 years: 30.1% (male 280,551/female 266,756)
55-64 years: 3.5% (male 31,711/female 31,515)
65 years and over:2.6% (male 19,617/female 28,111) (2014 est.)

CrossTalk: Gaza Under Siege - YouTube


Try to keep up, it was Colpy who said the children were probably armed to the teeth. Nice to see stupid is a common traid amounst the ones who celebrate killing babies.

I'm not going to argue the statistical impossibility of what you claim, simply because anyone else could see it as obvious in a population of 1.8 million....and you refuse to deal with logic or reality.

What and incredibly stupig fuking thing to say, let alone even think.


Excuse the rest of the world for not knowing how deadly children and infants are. You really are asleep.

Here is some reality for you:

Hamas Training Tens of Thousands of Child Soldiers | The Tower
 

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I would call that, without the slightest hesitation, a terrible thing.

Hamas is fully responsible.

This is where you lose me and I do not bother reading further. Ignoring Israel's role in their deaths is disingenuous at best.

You still haven't even addressed the fact that there are holocaust survivors that claim Israel is committing genocide.. antisemitic holocaust survivors??????
 

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Israel vs. Hamas is a war between good and evil

For Israel, a ceasefire now will only guarantee another war in a year or two or three; the only effective strategy is the complete demilitarization of Hamas, a terrorist organization that has hijacked a country.



Israel vs. Hamas is a war between good and evil