Turkey in warning to Israel: You have one day to apologize for Gaza flotilla raid

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İbrahim Bilgen
İbrahim Bilgen, a 60-year-old Turkish citizen, from Siirt in Turkey, was on the top deck
and was one of the first passengers to be shot. He received a bullet wound to the chest, the
trajectory of which was from above and not at close range. He had a further two bullet
wounds to the right side of the back and right buttock, both back to front. These wounds
would not have caused instant death, but he would have bled to death within a short time
without medical attention. Forensic evidence shows that he was shot in the side of the head
with a soft baton round at such close proximity and that an entire bean bag and its wadding
penetrated the skull and lodged in the brain. He had a further bruise on the right flank
consistent with another beanbag wound. The wounds are consistent with the deceased
initially being shot from soldiers on board the helicopter above and receiving a further
wound to the head while lying on the ground, already wounded.

Furkan Doğan
Furkan Doğan, a 19-year-old with dual Turkish and United States citizenship, was on the
central area of the top deck filming with a small video camera when he was first hit with
live fire. It appears that he was lying on the deck in a conscious, or semi-conscious, state
for some time. In total Furkan received five bullet wounds, to the face, head, back thorax,
left leg and foot. All of the entry wounds were on the back of his body, except for the face
wound which entered to the right of his nose. According to forensic analysis, tattooing
around the wound in his face indicates that the shot was delivered at point blank range.
Furthermore, the trajectory of the wound, from bottom to top, together with a vital abrasion
to the left shoulder that could be consistent with the bullet exit point, is compatible with the
shot being received while he was lying on the ground on his back. The other wounds were
not the result of firing in contact, near contact or close range, but it is not otherwise possible
to determine the exact firing range. The wounds to the leg and foot were most likely
received in a standing position.

Cevdet Kiliçlar
Cevdet Kiliçlar, a 38-year-old Turkish citizen from Istanbul, was on the Mavi Marmara, in
his capacity as a photographer employed by IHH. At the moment he was shot he was
standing on the bridge deck on the port side of the ship near to the door leading to the main
stairwell and was attempting to photograph Israeli soldiers on the top deck. According to
the pathology reports, he received a single bullet to his forehead between the eyes. The
bullet followed a horizontal trajectory which crossed the middle of the brain from front to
back. He would have died instantly.

Cengiz Akyüz and Cengiz Songür
Cengiz Akyüz, 41, from Hatay and Cengiz Songür, 46, from Izmir, both Turkish citizens,
were injured on the bridge deck in close succession by live fire from above. They had been
sheltering and were shot as they attempted to move inside the door leading to the stairwell.
Cengiz Akyüz received a shot to the head and it is probable that he died instantly.
The pathology report shows four wounds: to the neck, face, chest and thigh. Cengiz Songür
received a single bullet to the upper central thorax below the neck, shot from a high angle,
which lodged in the right thoracic cavity injuring the heart and aorta. Unsuccessful efforts
were made by doctors inside the ship to resuscitate him through heart massage.

Çetin Topçuoğlu
Çetin Topçuoğlu, a 54-year-old Turkish citizen from Adana had been involved in helping to
bring injured passengers inside the ship to be treated. He was also shot close to the door on
the bridge deck. He did not die instantly and his wife, who was also on board the ship, was
with him when he died. He was shot by three bullets. One bullet entered from the top the
soft tissues of the right side of the back of the head, exited from the neck and then reentered
into the thorax. Another bullet entered the left buttock and lodged in the right
pelvis. The third entered the right groin and exited from the lower back. There are
indications that the victim may have been in a crouching or bending position when this
wound was sustained.


Now, EAO, THINK about this....

Or no, don't bother.

Anyone ELSE reading this:

Think about this.....................

The report admits, as all the photographic evidence shows, that the Israelis were attacked by a significant number of men using knives and iron bars............some Israelis were severely wounded.

THEN they would have you believe that Israeli commandoes, some of the absolute best and most well-disciplined soldiers on the face of the earth, proceeded to shoot completely innocent bystanders........ignoring the people that were attempting to kill them and their comrades. In fact, according to the claims above, they would have had to gone AROUND those wielding iron bars and knives to get clear shots at those wielding cameras and aiding downed soldiers.

Uh-huh.

How STUPID do these people think we are??????
 

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Now, EAO, THINK about this....

Or no, don't bother.

Anyone ELSE reading this:

Think about this.....................

The report admits, as all the photographic evidence shows, that the Israelis were attacked by a significant number of men using knives and iron bars............some Israelis were severely wounded.

THEN they would have you believe that Israeli commandoes, some of the absolute best and most well-disciplined soldiers on the face of the earth, proceeded to shoot completely innocent bystanders........ignoring the people that were attempting to kill them and their comrades. In fact, according to the claims above, they would have had to gone AROUND those wielding iron bars and knives to get clear shots at those wielding cameras and aiding downed soldiers.

Uh-huh.

How STUPID do these people think we are??????

Some people compare themselves to others and how they are - So as the old saying goes ref EAO Stupid is as Stupid does.
He thankfully is a freak of genetic nature - Otherwise known as NotCcredible - Not Honest - A deceiver that plays games - Not smart at all. His ass has been reamed with facts and yet Dumbo carries on. Cannon fooder for those that hate Isreal.
 

DaSleeper

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Cheery picking again- What was the result of the report - Blockade Legal - Excessive force - Report say yes - But next time the Isrealis will not go in with paint ball guns - Losts of ways to clear a deck of a ship.

We all know that...but he'll keep cherry picking till the cows come home....which doesn't make converts to his "cause célebre" Except maybe Abfoot and breezy
 

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After reading the wikipedia account quoted by EAO, I have reached a simple conclusion:

The Israelis didn't kill enough of them.

Had they been MORE willing to use lethal force, less of their men would have been injured.

Oh, and did the Islamist apologists miss this???

Hours before the raid, the head of the İHH, Fehmi Bülent Yıldırım declared, "We're going to defeat the Israeli commandos–we're declaring it now. If you bring your soldiers here, we will throw you off the ship and you'll be humiliated in front of the whole world." Later, according to the crew of the ship, a group of about 40 İHH activists took over the ship.[60]

Or are they simply lying, Jew-hating scum???

(rhetorical question there)
 

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Hours before the raid, the head of the İHH, Fehmi Bülent Yıldırım declared, "We're going to defeat the Israeli commandos–we're declaring it now. If you bring your soldiers here, we will throw you off the ship and you'll be humiliated in front of the whole world." Later, according to the crew of the ship, a group of about 40 İHH activists took over the ship.[60]
You do realize, that little piece of intel, makes a forced boarding, with lethal force while boarding, completely legal. Without warning, without quarter for anyone identified as combative.

Or are they simply lying, Jew-hating scum???
The usual suspects?
 

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You do realize, that little piece of intel, makes a forced boarding, with lethal force while boarding, completely legal. Without warning, without quarter for anyone identified as combative.

The usual suspects?

And they have the fricking gall to accuse the Israelis of piracy........because they boarded a ship that had already been the victim of piracy.....

I'd say unbelieveable.......

But I've seen the "Usual Suspects" at their deceptive work way too often.
 

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And they have the fricking gall to accuse the Israelis of piracy........because they boarded a ship that had already been the victim of piracy.....
Not really surprising that EAO left that out of his little cut n paste spam tantrum. Or would that be a cut n paste spamtrum?

Every live round fired after the point the activist took control of the boat, was well within the confines of maritime law. Right down to the Israelis taking command, and bringing the Marmara to port.

But I've seen the "Usual Suspects" at their deceptive work way too often.
I can't wait to read Abtfet's take on it.

Should prove to be highly entertaining.
 

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After reading the wikipedia account quoted by EAO, I have reached a simple conclusion:

The Israelis didn't kill enough of them.

Had they been MORE willing to use lethal force, less of their men would have been injured.

Oh, and did the Islamist apologists miss this???



Or are they simply lying, Jew-hating scum???

(rhetorical question there)

Facts do not appply to EAO - ABt Fet - Jew haters Yes -
 

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After reading the wikipedia account quoted by EAO, I have reached a simple conclusion:

The Israelis didn't kill enough of them.

Had they been MORE willing to use lethal force, less of their men would have been injured.

Oh, and did the Islamist apologists miss this???



Or are they simply lying, Jew-hating scum???

(rhetorical question there)

Arab-hating scum , stop with your visceral rhetoric. Your air of arrogance while simualtaneously displaying tremendous ignorance is getting tiresome, it's not entertaining anymore.
Your whines of antisemitism are just downright embarrassing.
 

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Arab-hating scum , stop with your visceral rhetoric. Your air of arrogance while simualtaneously displaying tremendous ignorance is getting tiresome, it's not entertaining anymore.
Your whines of antisemitism are just downright embarrassing.

I think Abby is getting ready to POP!
 

Goober

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Arab-hating scum , stop with your visceral rhetoric. Your air of arrogance while simualtaneously displaying tremendous ignorance is getting tiresome, it's not entertaining anymore.
Your whines of antisemitism are just downright embarrassing.

No, I am quite comfortable with my beliefs - and Arab hating is not one of them - Now these types I have problems with - B****ters, Jew haters,Arab haters - those that just hate and people who only use certain facts
 

Colpy

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Funny how for some reason they don't want to talk about the flotilla any more........ever since the revelation by the CREW of the Mavi that the Turks took over the ship.....an act of piracy.

Israel vindicated.....yet again.
 

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Stop saying Israel was vindicated, it won't ever happen. Mainly because it's not possible, they're guilty of crimes against humanity.
 

Colpy

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Stop saying Israel was vindicated, it won't ever happen. Mainly because it's not possible, they're guilty of crimes against humanity.


Only in your delusions. Israel has been vindicated over and over and over and over.

Remember the non-existent "Jenin massacre'??
Jenin Massacre - MediaMythBusters

How about the "murder" of Muhjammad al-Durrah??
Muhammad al-Durrah incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or the Goldstone Report????
CIC Scene » CIC-CIJA Press Release: Canadian Position On Goldstone Report Vindicated By Goldstone Himself

And now the flotilla of "peacemakers" to break the "illegal" blockade of Gaza....

The truth hurts Jew haters......
 

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Stop saying Israel was vindicated, it won't ever happen. Mainly because it's not possible, they're guilty of crimes against humanity.

Could you tell me how Arabs are treated in Israel - and Arabs are treated in Syria, Iran, Saudi - to make it even the question only pertains to their fellow co-religionists - but the caveat is regarding minority sects of Islam within those countries.