Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 3,786 
Location: Toronto
Location: Toronto
March 29th, 2006, 12:24 PM
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Until now I thought you were just some right wing soldure, as most are, who was pissed off at the Liberals. But you are out of touch with the current soldurers my friend. I myself like you liked the old uniform. I mean god damned they dried really fast and even though in puplic you felt you were wearing PJ's they were also pretty comffy. But the new Cadpads are extremely populer with out fighting men and women and offer them greater protection. They may not dry as fast but in infer-red they are harder to see!!! The soldures feel safer in them and I do not think it was a bad investment, but the soldurers who I know love them and are very happy they have that new layer of protection. They miss the super fast dryness of the old uniforms but trust me when I say none of them would give up the cadpads for the greens.
Bad decisions on the part of politicians has been a major issue. Rather than reinvesting in updating equipment, our previous Government chose to spend millions on outfitting our soldiers in new uniforms and after almost a decade they again changed the uniform pattern and put two uniforms out to pasture they invested millions in.
The bottom line was the government was more interested in how our troops looked than how they operated.
As far as the military itself and getting bang for its buck. All units have been working on shoestring budgets for years. It was in fact the military that asked to take control of their budgets as they were once dictated to by Ottawa where to buy a hammer or a toilet seat at sickening costs. Now a Supply Officer is free to go into the local economy and seek out the best deals.
Good for the military, good for the local economy
Cheers M
The bottom line was the government was more interested in how our troops looked than how they operated.
As far as the military itself and getting bang for its buck. All units have been working on shoestring budgets for years. It was in fact the military that asked to take control of their budgets as they were once dictated to by Ottawa where to buy a hammer or a toilet seat at sickening costs. Now a Supply Officer is free to go into the local economy and seek out the best deals.
Good for the military, good for the local economy
Cheers M
Bright Spark
Posts: 273
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Location: Ontario
Videos: 3
Location: Ontario
March 29th, 2006, 09:22 PM
I liked the old combats as well, but my Son assurres me the new camo's are pretty good. I'm not as out of touch as you might think. We saw a lot of waste under the Liberal regime, silly investments which cost millions, which would have been better invested in training and equipment. When common sense finally prevailed The Garrison dress which included 6 shirts, 1 camo Smock, one pair of garrison boots and one complete enviromental Dress CF was canned.
Just one of the many wasted endeavors on the part of the Liberal Government. In the end dress and combat uniforms worked out just fine. Should I be surprised? I guess not, I mean these are the same clowns that gave us a Gun Registry that topped 2 billion.
Anyhow I won't dredge all this up. You obviously disagree with my view of politics and that's cool, but I hope I clarified what I meant.
Cheers
M
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Actually Finder I was referring to the Work Dress and Enviromental CF's Green and Tan for the Army as well as paint by numbers garrison dress.
Until now I thought you were just some right wing soldure, as most are, who was pissed off at the Liberals. But you are out of touch with the current soldurers my friend
I liked the old combats as well, but my Son assurres me the new camo's are pretty good. I'm not as out of touch as you might think. We saw a lot of waste under the Liberal regime, silly investments which cost millions, which would have been better invested in training and equipment. When common sense finally prevailed The Garrison dress which included 6 shirts, 1 camo Smock, one pair of garrison boots and one complete enviromental Dress CF was canned.
Just one of the many wasted endeavors on the part of the Liberal Government. In the end dress and combat uniforms worked out just fine. Should I be surprised? I guess not, I mean these are the same clowns that gave us a Gun Registry that topped 2 billion.
Anyhow I won't dredge all this up. You obviously disagree with my view of politics and that's cool, but I hope I clarified what I meant.
Cheers
M
No sparks please
Posts: 354
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
April 17th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd try and revive this one.
With a HOLD put on most "Liberal" planned military purchases it leaves the question of what are the Conservatives up to? Will O'Connor revert back to the old procurment process, buying equipment that by the time our soldiers get it that it's close to obsolete? I turned away from the Liberals in the last election for many reasons but the way they were finally getting down to business with procurments for the CF was not one of them.
Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd try and revive this one.
With a HOLD put on most "Liberal" planned military purchases it leaves the question of what are the Conservatives up to? Will O'Connor revert back to the old procurment process, buying equipment that by the time our soldiers get it that it's close to obsolete? I turned away from the Liberals in the last election for many reasons but the way they were finally getting down to business with procurments for the CF was not one of them.
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,981 
Location: USA
Location: USA
April 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
There was also a pretty funny quote from an Army Sgt. serving in Iraq
"It is not too difficult to understand why someone would want to pick up an AK-47 and fight against us. Maybe we killed his daddy in the first Gulf War. Maybe we killed him in this one. Maybe he's just a d--k."
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I laughed my butt off on this one.There was also a pretty funny quote from an Army Sgt. serving in Iraq
"It is not too difficult to understand why someone would want to pick up an AK-47 and fight against us. Maybe we killed his daddy in the first Gulf War. Maybe we killed him in this one. Maybe he's just a d--k."
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
April 18th, 2006, 01:08 PM
The "It must be built in Canada to provide jobs" mantra has got to go. It has given us equipment later, at a higher cost, and lucky to be of the same quality than if we had bought something elsewhere.
We go the Iltis jeep from Bombardier and the Iveco light truck from Western Star in BC - it was the west's turn. Both crap.
When the army was looking to replace the Leopard I tank the govt was actually entertaining a proposal from Kraus Maffei to build a plant in Cape Breton to produce the Leopard II. We can see how far that went.
Canada will never need enough equipment to justify the cost and time delays that this policy has put on the military.
The "It must be built in Canada to provide jobs" mantra has got to go. It has given us equipment later, at a higher cost, and lucky to be of the same quality than if we had bought something elsewhere.
We go the Iltis jeep from Bombardier and the Iveco light truck from Western Star in BC - it was the west's turn. Both crap.
When the army was looking to replace the Leopard I tank the govt was actually entertaining a proposal from Kraus Maffei to build a plant in Cape Breton to produce the Leopard II. We can see how far that went.
Canada will never need enough equipment to justify the cost and time delays that this policy has put on the military.
No sparks please
Posts: 354
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
April 18th, 2006, 11:16 PM
Built in Canada doesn't always fail. The frigates are a pretty successfull project, except the price of course. The LAVIII is built here and does well. The problems seem to be when a well made and foreign built piece of equipment is subcontracted to be built here. If it's Canadian designed and built it usually turns out well. We spend more but at least the money theoretically stays here. The problem as I see it now is that they've fallen SO far behind in acquiring new "kit" that it is all needed now. This situation could easily be remedied by buying foreign built kit but could the Government stand the hit it would take politically?
Built in Canada doesn't always fail. The frigates are a pretty successfull project, except the price of course. The LAVIII is built here and does well. The problems seem to be when a well made and foreign built piece of equipment is subcontracted to be built here. If it's Canadian designed and built it usually turns out well. We spend more but at least the money theoretically stays here. The problem as I see it now is that they've fallen SO far behind in acquiring new "kit" that it is all needed now. This situation could easily be remedied by buying foreign built kit but could the Government stand the hit it would take politically?
Newbie
Posts: 38
Location: Toronto
Location: Toronto
August 7th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Hi guys Big Nick just wondering do any of you really know Hank and what he's done for ya? Well I do and I'm sure he's worked beside my father too Mr. Dennis Reilly of the Canadian alliance( The President of the dept. of national defence. so f all you bastards that feel you needa say more
go back to your hole and make some eggs.
Hi guys Big Nick just wondering do any of you really know Hank and what he's done for ya? Well I do and I'm sure he's worked beside my father too Mr. Dennis Reilly of the Canadian alliance( The President of the dept. of national defence. so f all you bastards that feel you needa say more
go back to your hole and make some eggs.
Duration_Improvate
Posts: 382 
Location: Nearby yet far away
Location: Nearby yet far away
July 4th, 2007, 01:13 PM
Uvm.
Well, Canadian Troops aren't that famous. We need regroup. I support that. The big question is: Do people want their military to be tougher and who will do it?
Ever since I heard on the news about the terrorist attacks and the enivronmental factor, I decide to get some of the hidden stuff I'm not suppose to type. Since the people there also know a lot about mud houses, here is my reflection on the terrorist and troops of Canada.
The goal of the Canadian troops is okay. I heard in the media (indirectly) says that the military are allowing illegal trade. At first I didn't want to get in it until there were reports of Taliban and farmer unions.
The air strikes and the bunch says much that our troops need organizing. Generals should set laws like do not take illegal trades and abuse any citizen. Abuse include taking stuff by force and destroying or threatening (unless during emergency missions), rape, discrimination, e.t.c. In other words, be polite and fight hard. Also fire direct targets. If not sure, get the defense and then attack when you understand who you are attacking. I don't care how much money they need to spend to get there, but just do it! This definitely will in the end convince the people to be on the NATO's side rather the Talibans. Once the NATO wins, please withdraw. If my advice is not taken, it is a likely direct withdraw or fight until one side win and one side loses. Maybe both sides will be injured badly. Afghanistan is tough and will people be interested long enough about the war? Hopefully both sides don't suffer as much. War is unpredictable. Amen to those who will do so. Let Athena be the guide and Aries be the force.
Once stopped the bleeding, set rules like let people give all the luggage and on the plane luggages couple of months before travellers travel. That way, the air port can analyze all the things. Once analyzed as okay, deliver to the destination. The only stuff that the air travellers need to check is what they carry on their clothes. Stepping to a metal dectator will be the only one needed with forces of police and bomb diffusers at the side. If allowing air luggage, be sure to check personal luggage in X-rays with technicians at sides.
I hope it is the efficient way to do it.
Uvm.
Well, Canadian Troops aren't that famous. We need regroup. I support that. The big question is: Do people want their military to be tougher and who will do it?
Ever since I heard on the news about the terrorist attacks and the enivronmental factor, I decide to get some of the hidden stuff I'm not suppose to type. Since the people there also know a lot about mud houses, here is my reflection on the terrorist and troops of Canada.
The goal of the Canadian troops is okay. I heard in the media (indirectly) says that the military are allowing illegal trade. At first I didn't want to get in it until there were reports of Taliban and farmer unions.
The air strikes and the bunch says much that our troops need organizing. Generals should set laws like do not take illegal trades and abuse any citizen. Abuse include taking stuff by force and destroying or threatening (unless during emergency missions), rape, discrimination, e.t.c. In other words, be polite and fight hard. Also fire direct targets. If not sure, get the defense and then attack when you understand who you are attacking. I don't care how much money they need to spend to get there, but just do it! This definitely will in the end convince the people to be on the NATO's side rather the Talibans. Once the NATO wins, please withdraw. If my advice is not taken, it is a likely direct withdraw or fight until one side win and one side loses. Maybe both sides will be injured badly. Afghanistan is tough and will people be interested long enough about the war? Hopefully both sides don't suffer as much. War is unpredictable. Amen to those who will do so. Let Athena be the guide and Aries be the force.
Once stopped the bleeding, set rules like let people give all the luggage and on the plane luggages couple of months before travellers travel. That way, the air port can analyze all the things. Once analyzed as okay, deliver to the destination. The only stuff that the air travellers need to check is what they carry on their clothes. Stepping to a metal dectator will be the only one needed with forces of police and bomb diffusers at the side. If allowing air luggage, be sure to check personal luggage in X-rays with technicians at sides.
I hope it is the efficient way to do it.
Duration_Improvate
Posts: 382
Location: Nearby yet far away
Location: Nearby yet far away
August 10th, 2007, 06:38 PM
Um. Heard the news about the old man hitting the Canadian soldier. At the time of distrust, (if they trust the soldiers, they will show them the secrets of ... ) please carry some defense thing. If I were there, I would help the people. Unfortunately, I'm underaged, undergraduate and an underdog because no requirements. The rolling into a crop stuff isn't okay. It's far beyond breaking rules. To obtain allies and win the war is the objective.
Although the battlion means well, the standard of wellness in Afghanistanians is different. People in Afghanistan hope for something well like the wells, the support of farmers and the renewals of their trees and environment. The battlion hope for education: notebooks.
Being quiet huh?
one: Taliban gives up and leaves. Withdraw from the area and help elsewhere.
two: Taliban let the people loosen. In the two, better train hard.
Um. Heard the news about the old man hitting the Canadian soldier. At the time of distrust, (if they trust the soldiers, they will show them the secrets of ... ) please carry some defense thing. If I were there, I would help the people. Unfortunately, I'm underaged, undergraduate and an underdog because no requirements. The rolling into a crop stuff isn't okay. It's far beyond breaking rules. To obtain allies and win the war is the objective.
Although the battlion means well, the standard of wellness in Afghanistanians is different. People in Afghanistan hope for something well like the wells, the support of farmers and the renewals of their trees and environment. The battlion hope for education: notebooks.
Being quiet huh?
one: Taliban gives up and leaves. Withdraw from the area and help elsewhere.
two: Taliban let the people loosen. In the two, better train hard.
