Harper Shutting Out the Media

Normally I would be ecstatic myself ITN but the meddling is not being done by our Government, it's being done by yours, Harper has become an American vice president in charge of Canada.

Yes because Five is still in love with the Liberals even though they steal our money and put it in their own Party coffers at the expense of the province of Quebec. For what should Liberals care if conservatives are run out office for something that isn't illegal, that would put Liberals back in so the criminality can continue.

Perhaps the media is full of Liberals and their stupid questions and the conservatives being in a tight spot are doing something to bring control to the situation.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

Yes because Five is still in love with the Liberals even though they steal our money and put it in their own Party coffers at the expense of the province of Quebec. For what should Liberals care if conservatives are run out office for something that isn't illegal, that would put Liberals back in so the criminality can continue.

Perhaps the media is full of Liberals and their stupid questions and the conservatives being in a tight spot are doing something to bring control to the situation.

You like what Harper is doing Jay? You would blindly follow a politician because he happens to wear the same coloured shirt as you?

That's great that you are happy the Liberals lost. But try not to lose any sense of criticism simply because they are the brand you voted for. If this were done by any party of Canada, I would be deeply critical of it.

Harper guy ran on accountability, a new transparency, ethics.

He lied to you! His actions show he lied to you.

You would blindly follow a politician because he happens to wear the same coloured shirt as you?

Hey, I was highly critical about about the sponsorship scandal and you know what? The Liberals got punished for it. Deservedly so! Yes, they deserved to get punished in some way for it and there is no bigger way than losing the election.

But now what?

Are we so angry now that it doesn’t matter if the worst thing comes along. We’ll just put him/her in charge of running the country because the only thing that matters is to punish the liberals for the sponsorship scandal?

They might of had some corrupt members, but in the big picture, the country still did well from policy. So lets be critical enough to be able to separate the good from the bad and given Harper’s even weak minority, I think most Canadians didn’t vote for him really because of policy, but for punishment of the Liberals.

Hey, to put it in perspective, the sponsorship scandal was a cancer in the body of the liberal party. But what is happening now is coming from the top and the fish now stinks from the head down.

Oh how I wish the old conservative party was still around for normal conservatives..

Come on. This isn’t one team versus another. You can have good people in all the different parties. Unfortunately right now Harper requires those good people in his party to go through a filter rather than be able speak on their own behalf.

The fish stunk from the head down the entire time Chrétien was in office and people still voted Liberal because of the lies they were telling about the Conservatives. Not everyone is fooled into believing those lies you know. Many people understand that the campaigns run by the Liberals are orchestrated on one major policy and that is name calling. The only thing that truly bothers me about it is the sponge like constitution of the average Liberal supporter to gobble up the lies and vote accordingly. The people are starting to wake up and see the lies for what they are though, and fortunately for Canada, they voted the conservatives in. But reeducation of Liberals takes time and we only managed a minority.

Your theme in this thread, Jay (namely, I'm a Conservative, so they can govern however they want as long as they stay blue) doesn't seem a particularly responsible way to go about things, in my opinion. Where can we draw the line, then? When the Conservatives decide to pull House coverage from CPAC? When they decide we don't need access to the Hansard on-line, anymore?

Since when have Liberals concerned themselves with who lied about what? How many people voted Liberal in the last election? I don't take much they say seriously.

The motives of the left in Canada are clear. Disrupt and disorder until we get a new leader.

Liberals do it day in day out....ask them the same question, at least conservatives aren't putting the nation at risk.

OTTAWA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper says there's no right for people to know when his cabinet is meeting.
While previous governments kept cabinet agendas and discussions secret, they gave advance notice of meetings so that reporters could ask questions afterward. But Harper suggested Tuesday that the very fact ministers are meeting could be kept confidential.
"Meetings of cabinet are private, this is a constitutional issue," said the prime minister, who has been limiting media access to ministers.
Traditionally, reporters gather outside the cabinet room to buttonhole ministers after the meetings. Harper has now banned journalists from the floor where the meetings are held, saying reporters can wait downstairs for ministers who may have something to say.
"I'm available regularly to answer your questions," he said. "If there are substantial questions, I am ready to answer them."

Where was the media when the tax payer money was being slid into the coffers of the Liberal party? I sometimes watch CPAC, but I missed that episode.
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If this is the best you can do don't expect me to come out boo-hooing over it. It's not my job to make the conservatives look bad, that's your job and your doing a very poor job of it too, I might add.

The fact is:

The Conservative Party of Canada has thus far conducted itself in a manner which is less transparent and inherently less accountable than the previous Government of Canada. The fact that Mr. Harper is going to be restricting knowledge of heads of states' visits to Canada — what the Hell possible purpose could that serve?

The other option is that rather than being completely partisan about it, we can all look at governments critically. Why would you let a party destroy the little openness that we have so far just because they're the party you support.

It is ok to be critical of the actions of someone you like. Not everyone has to act like Rutherford and being a mouthpiece for the Conservative Party of Canada.

Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadox

The fact is:

The Conservative Party of Canada has thus far conducted itself in a manner which is less transparent and inherently less accountable than the previous Government of Canada. The fact that Mr. Harper is going to be restricting knowledge of heads of states' visits to Canada — what the Hell possible purpose could that serve?

I agree Harper is a dolt. Still you can't actually believe this. Where is the billion dollars missing from HRDC? What of the Gomery inquiry and report?