Conservatives: Not our job to feed starving Canadian children


mentalfloss
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James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's children'

It's not up to the federal government to help out children who don't have enough to eat, Industry Minister James Moore said in Vancouver.

Speaking to a Vancouver radio station Friday, Moore said British Columbia's child poverty rates aren't the responsibility of the federal government, and it won't "usurp" the province.

"Is it the government's job — my job to feed my neighbour's children? I don't think so," Moore said.

CBC News - James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's children'
 
petros
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He,s right. It!s Provincial and there is already Province paying Provinces through transfer payments.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's children'

It's not up to the federal government to help out children who don't have enough to eat, Industry Minister James Moore said in Vancouver.

Speaking to a Vancouver radio station Friday, Moore said British Columbia's child poverty rates aren't the responsibility of the federal government, and it won't "usurp" the province.

"Is it the government's job — my job to feed my neighbour's children? I don't think so," Moore said.

CBC News - James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's children'


Yep, typical "let George do it" mentality.
 
Christianna
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It's someone's job to feed hungry children, individuals can't do it by themselves. At this time of year there are many charities that help the poor the rest of the time either the provincial or federal governments must do it. If my neighbor had children and they were hungry I would try to help them but I can't afford to do very much. That's why governments must.
 
taxslave
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He's right. It is a provincial responsibility and politicians do not like it when other politicians intrude on their turf.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChristiannaView Post

It's someone's job to feed hungry children, individuals can't do it by themselves. At this time of year there are many charities that help the poor the rest of the time either the provincial or federal governments must do it. If my neighbor had children and they were hungry I would try to help them but I can't afford to do very much. That's why governments must.

Child Tax Credit
 
damngrumpy
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He is right and he is wrong. The fact is transfer payments are not sufficient to do the job
they were intended to do In contrast the Provincial Governments are not doing enough to
ensure the money they get is spent wisely.
It is the job of all of us to ensure children don't go hungry period. Arguing over who should
pay is disgusting and demonstrates the lack of empathy some have for those less fortunate.
Even if they can't help more and solve everyone's problems doesn't mean they have the
right to just ignore hunger, children or otherwise. We live in a country that assists the world's
hungry and rightfully so. If we can do that surely we have it within us to see our nations kids
don't go to bed hungry. I have said it before the measure of a nation's greatness is in fact
demonstrated in how we treat our less fortunate. Many do not realize just how many Canadians
are only a paycheck or two away from the same fate. Many of those are our own relatives.
So the gentleman may be right but to express it callously was not the measure of a compassionate
individual. Statements like that enforce the image of the Tories as an uncaring party when it
comes to the poor and disadvantaged
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

He is right and he is wrong. The fact is transfer payments are not sufficient to do the job
they were intended to do In contrast the Provincial Governments are not doing enough to
ensure the money they get is spent wisely.
It is the job of all of us to ensure children don't go hungry period. Arguing over who should
pay is disgusting and demonstrates the lack of empathy some have for those less fortunate.
Even if they can't help more and solve everyone's problems doesn't mean they have the
right to just ignore hunger, children or otherwise. We live in a country that assists the world's
hungry and rightfully so. If we can do that surely we have it within us to see our nations kids
don't go to bed hungry. I have said it before the measure of a nation's greatness is in fact
demonstrated in how we treat our less fortunate. Many do not realize just how many Canadians
are only a paycheck or two away from the same fate. Many of those are our own relatives.
So the gentleman may be right but to express it callously was not the measure of a compassionate
individual. Statements like that enforce the image of the Tories as an uncaring party when it
comes to the poor and disadvantaged


I think there is a two part solution to this Grumpy. Providing food or the money to buy food is half of the solution. With the fast (unnutritious and expensive) food mentality perhaps education needs to be put out there to show people how to provide healthy meals at minimal cost and staying away prepared foods mainly laced with sugar and salt, which in the long run leads to a bunch of fat, starving people.
 
taxslave
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Short of buying the food and cooking it how are you going to force a crackhead or a drunk to feed their kids? Give them money and it goes to their favorite addiction not to the kids.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Short of buying the food and cooking it how are you going to force a crackhead or a drunk to feed their kids? Give them money and it goes to their favorite addiction not to the kids.


Do you think that is typical or more the exception?
 
lone wolf
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Sadly, he is correct. It's not a job. It's a duty of care - which he doesn't, apparently
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Do you think that is typical or more the exception?

From what I have seen it is typical. If it was the exception we wouldn't have such a problem. This has nothing to do with being poor either. Most poor people manage to feed and clothe their kids just fine. They don't have much else but their kids get fed. But you will never see them in the bar or the crackhouse on welfare wednesday either.
 
Zipperfish
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Nice Christmas sentiment. I suspect James Moore will be visited by three ghosts on Christmas eve.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Short of buying the food and cooking it how are you going to force a crackhead or a drunk to feed their kids? Give them money and it goes to their favorite addiction not to the kids.

So anybody without a job is a crackhead or a drunk?
Fire pork-barrel Ottawa and there would be no hungry children in any part of Canada.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

From what I have seen it is typical. If it was the exception we wouldn't have such a problem. This has nothing to do with being poor either. Most poor people manage to feed and clothe their kids just fine. They don't have much else but their kids get fed. But you will never see them in the bar or the crackhouse on welfare wednesday either.

I guess we know your favorite hangout now, not a big surprise.
 
grumpydigger
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its the federal governments job to supply corporate welfare and keep the pigs at the Trough happy.........remember dear leader wants everyone to shutup and obey
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

From what I have seen it is typical. If it was the exception we wouldn't have such a problem. This has nothing to do with being poor either. Most poor people manage to feed and clothe their kids just fine. They don't have much else but their kids get fed. But you will never see them in the bar or the crackhouse on welfare wednesday either.


I think some of it has got to do with a bit of a change in attitude about accepting charity too, which may be a good thing. When I was a kid there was a stigma to accepting charity, whereas today people aren't as backward about accepting it. But there may be a downside too in that people may not try as hard today. But to be fair I think there are more pressures on people today. With the increase in media kids are more aware today and feel a need to have more things that we never thought of.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post


I guess we know your favorite hangout now, not a big surprise.


You're talking stupid, again!
 
Goober
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Part of the problem is people will say- That is the Govts. job- which it is - this became more prevalent as social safety net programs came into effect.
People say, not my problem.
Poverty costs Canada a fortune. Children going to school hungry do not learn- they have health issues.
Poverty in this country that pretends to care are at atrocious levels. A group that is often overlooked.
The percentage of people –Families- living from pay check to pay check is substantial.
Yes rates have dropped. Whoopee. They are still there, they are still substantial.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by ChristiannaView Post

It's someone's job to feed hungry children, individuals can't do it by themselves.

Here's a thought.

PARENTS
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Part of the problem is people will say- That is the Govts. job- which it is - this became more prevalent as social safety net programs came into effect.
People say, not my problem.


Can't agree with that one Goober! Who is the Gov't.? Every time we shunt something on to the Gov't. yours and my taxes go up. Unless a person is profoundly handicapped mentally or physically, feeding themselves and their family is THEIR responsibility.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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In context I don't see the issue with the comment:

Clap trap from the left. Read the comment.

"Is it the government's job — my job to feed my neighbour's child? I don't think so," Moore said.
"Obviously nobody wants kids to go to school hungry..., but is that always the government's job? To be there to serve people their breakfast? Empowering families with more power and resources so they can feed their own children is I think a good thing," he said.


Moore is a numbskull for apologizing.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by retired_can_soldierView Post

here's a thought.

parents


absolutely -
 
Zipperfish
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Horrible timing, more than anything, for a particularly Scrooge-y comment.
 
EagleSmack
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Someone Needs To Be Held Accountable For My 15 Children Someone Needs to Pay - YouTube

 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

In context I don't see the issue with the comment:

Clap trap from the left. Read the comment.

"Is it the government's job — my job to feed my neighbour's child? I don't think so," Moore said.
"Obviously nobody wants kids to go to school hungry..., but is that always the government's job? To be there to serve people their breakfast? Empowering families with more power and resources so they can feed their own children is I think a good thing," he said.


Moore is a numbskull for apologizing.


Yep, I was going to say he had it right the first time!
 
Zipperfish
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Quote:


"Business!" cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my
business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and
benevolence were all my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of
water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"

Jacob Marley's wrods.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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At least CBC put up the full quote. Although that didn't stop the


Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Sadly, he is correct. It's not a job. It's a duty of care - which he doesn't, apparently

Another one who ignores context.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post




Another one who ignores context.

Which part? The yes or the duty of care - like they send by the boatload overseas (thus maintaining an image they don't show here)
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Which part? The yes or the duty of care - like they send by the boatload overseas (thus maintaining an image they don't show here)

Tons of tax payer money gets distributed in this Country. A lot more than gets shipped overseas. You can pick at what he said, but the fact remains that throwing money at child hunger is not the answer.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

Here's a thought.

PARENTS

Reason why Foodbanks usage has exploded?
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Reason why Foodbanks usage has exploded?




Where do foodbanks fall into what he was saying, does anyone know? Do they count as 'empowering families to feed their kids themselves'?
 

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