Nycole Turmel’s flirtation with sovereignty was not a secret.

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From: The Toronto Star
Nycole Turmel’s flirtation with sovereignty was not a secret.


During last spring’s federal election campaign, the incumbent Liberal she easily toppled tried to exploit her separatist dalliance.
But she is no longer merely the NDP MP for Hull-Aylmer and being a card-carrying member of the Bloc Québécois is no mere flirtation.
It is not even an affair. It is a full-fledged, long-term relationship.


If Jack Layton knew that the woman he recommended as interim leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition was, until a month before running for the NDP, a member of a party bent on breaking the federation, he showed a spectacular lack of judgment.
And if he didn’t know, why didn’t he ask?


Given her past endorsement of Bloc Québécois candidates while leading the Public Service Alliance of Canada, it was a legitimate question.


Turmel says her me membership in the Bloc — revealed in a published report Tuesday — became known to the party when she filled out a questionnaire before accepting the nomination in her riding.

But she was vague on whether Layton knew of her party membership.


This is not Bob Rae moving from the NDP to the Liberals, it is not David Emerson moving from the Liberals to the Conservatives, it is not Stephen Harper once advocating an Alberta firewall then becoming Prime Minister.
The Bloc is unlike any party, given its ultimate goal.


And if Turmel only turned in her Bloc party card this past January, then her relationship is still too fresh.


Even more damaging, she acknowledged Tuesday that she was still a member of Québec Solidaire, a left-wing provincial party that also advocates sovereignty.

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Clear evidence that the NDP will not hold opposition for more than one term.
 

mentalfloss

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Also, while she's a perfectly fine candidate, she's a temp.

I'm pretty sure Mulcair will be the true heir to the throne.
 

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This could be the start of a decline for the party, especially if Layton doesn't return.
 

mentalfloss

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This could be the start of a decline for the party, especially if Layton doesn't return.

Even if the NDP don't win an election, we would really benefit by having them as the official opposition to the Liberals or Conservatives to keep them from being too lethargic or deceitful.
 

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Quebec sovereignty is strong, but it has nowhere to go but down as the older generations die off.
 

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Even if the NDP don't win an election, we would really benefit by having them as the official opposition to the Liberals or Conservatives to keep them from being too lethargic or deceitful.

It appears that the NDP is falling right in with the deceit crowd.

Flirting with sovereignty, candidates going to Vegas during elections.


I love this picture.

She is not hard to look at though.
 

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Not such a stretch. Both parties want to ruin Canada as we know it. The separatists want to take a big bite out of Canada and the dippers want to destroy our economy.
I haven't heard yet just how well the western dippers are going to take to this. Most of them don't have much use for Quebec"s whining or having French rammed down our throats. What the party brass say in public and what the average blue collar worker think are not always the same thing.
 

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It appears that the NDP is falling right in with the deceit crowd.

Flirting with sovereignty, candidates going to Vegas during elections.


I love this picture.

She is not hard to look at though.


Desperate partisan jabs aside, if you want to know the full spectrum on who the most honest party of the three is, I would probably rate as follows:

1. NDP
2. Liberals
3. Conservatives

You can bring up as many isolated events as you like, but based on the the number of 'convictions', I'm sure the history would clearly show this is an accurate ranking. Whether or not voters actually recognize that is another story, and that's why a strong opposition is the foundation for a decent government.
 

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Quebec sovereignty is strong, but it has nowhere to go but down as the older generations die off.

Yet more and more Quebecers self identify primarily as Quebecers or as Quebecers only. Rarely has the indifference between Quebec and the ROC been so strong. Sovereignty might be in a coma, but so is federalism in Quebec.

The political climate in Quebec right now is anything but predictable.
 

Colpy

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Desperate partisan jabs aside, if you want to know the full spectrum on who the most honest party of the three is, I would probably rate as follows:

1. NDP
2. Liberals
3. Conservatives

You can bring up as many isolated events as you like, but based on the the number of 'convictions', I'm sure the history would clearly show this is an accurate ranking. Whether or not voters actually recognize that is another story, and that's why a strong opposition is the foundation for a decent government.


I would switch the Liberals and Conservatives in that ranking............although I expect that to change.

The corrupt seek the party of power, as that is the path to gain. The NDP, having no chance of governing, attract lots of nuts, few crooks. The Liberals, as the Natural Governing Party, became so corrupt that it destroyed them as a viable political option. The Conservatives have done darn well in avoiding corruption so far, but the longer they hang on to power, the more the scum will rise to the top.............
 

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So what? Anyone can change their mind - or pay the ten bucks (or have a friend pay) to join and help a friend. Your Cons got their majority. Are you that bloody greedy you want it all?

I see the document changer is still in Con caucus....
 

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Yet more and more Quebecers self identify primarily as Quebecers or as Quebecers only. Rarely has the indifference between Quebec and the ROC been so strong. Sovereignty might be in a coma, but so is federalism in Quebec.

Well then I guess the socialists must be pretty damn confident to put another federalist at the helm.
 

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Desperate partisan jabs aside, if you want to know the full spectrum on who the most honest party of the three is, I would probably rate as follows:

1. NDP
2. Liberals
3. Conservatives

You can bring up as many isolated events as you like, but based on the the number of 'convictions', I'm sure the history would clearly show this is an accurate ranking. Whether or not voters actually recognize that is another story, and that's why a strong opposition is the foundation for a decent government.

Desperate Partisan Jabs. ROFLMAO.

Have you noticed who the serving government is?

LOL. Too funny MF.
 

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Desperate Partisan Jabs. ROFLMAO.

Have you noticed who the serving government is?

LOL. Too funny MF.
We are all too painfully aware of who the ruling party is. It just makes one wonder why party hacks feel a need to slam the opposition at this time. It is kinda like kicking your opponent while he's down. Not something I would expect from our ex-military.
 

mentalfloss

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We are all too painfully aware of who the ruling party is. It just makes one wonder why party hacks feel a need to slam the opposition at this time. It is kinda like kicking your opponent while he's down. Not something I would expect from our ex-military.

That's what makes the jabs desperate and partisan.

When all you've got to respond to current issues is Vegas Lolita and Jackie Jizzcock, it adds that extra touch of class to the hackery.
 
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