Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Younger Generation - Dumb or Stupid or Both- Yes or No
I see in my work a large number of 18 to 25 or year old persons
I see some in supervisory position with no interpersonal skills what so ever. And yes they send emails and cannot even be bothered to use the auto spell check.
I see employees that have the same talents as mentioned above
I see many who need help to even change their mind - the inability to think a simple problem through to a conclusion is unbelievable
I see this day after day.
I see a lack of ethics - both moral and work - They will blame someone else when something goes wrong instead of facing the music.
I see losers that will go through life complaining about everything that is wrong yet do nothing to change the situation
And yes men are the majority.
And no this is not all but a substantial number.
Then I see the others that will be highly successful in life.
And how old are you?
Do you remember what you were like at those ages?
Do you even know what others thought of you when you came on board at that age?
Chances are they thought you were just as dumb and limited in thinking as well.... as least a good portion of your co-workers at the job you were at at that age thought that.
The thing is, at that age range, you have limited hands-on experience compared to someone in their 30's or 40's..... you either just got out of high school or just got out of college and just because you just got out of college doesn't automatically mean you're any better then the person who just came out of high school since while you may have more education under your belt, you still lacked the hands-on experience.
I remember growing up as a child hearing the people on TV and the radios claim the new generation coming in were stupid and a bunch of stuck up morons who thought they were experienced and knew it all..... then when my generation came in, it was the same thing from that same generation who was called stupid and dumb....... and now here's my generation doing the exact same thing.
You know what?
My parents generation was called the same thing in the 70's...... and those before them in the 60's..... yup..... and 50's??
This mentality is nothing new..... and it proves nothing.
Many of those mistakes you listed above are mistakes I made when I first came into the work force which I don't make anymore.... but I'll admit I'm not perfect and I still make mistakes sometimes, though certainly not as many as I used to..... and I have employees here where I work who are in their 40's, 50's and one who was in his 60's who make just as many mistakes as I, if not more and I end up fixing them for them....... what does that tell you about them? Should I brand their generations as you branded this generation you're complaining about?
...... and not accepting blame?
I guess you forgot what it's like being the new guy on the job who's younger then everybody else there, who's continually reminded that you have no experience, who's always put in the spot light to prove themselves because if you screw up, you'll easily be replaced because there's a whole line up of others like you waiting at the door to take your place for that piddily amount of money tossed at you.
Yeah, they have no pressure on them to avoid screw ups....... yes.... it's completely realistic to expect them to perform just as good, if not better then you or someone else with more experience and know-how of how things work there.
Do you even know what it's like to be in a supervisory position over people twice your age who look at you with contempt and smugness that they're taking orders from a child... who are just waiting for one excuse to get them tossed out on their ass?
You see their problems and flaws shine out perfectly like a lighthouse beacon, simply because of their age and lack of experience and somehow think their problems are far worse then anything you had to go through at that age..... and because they're still trying to gain experience and the pressure to prove themselves makes them sometimes cut corners or miss a few steps..... they're a bunch of morons compared to your genius'ness.
Maybe instead of trashing the crap out of them and treating them like idiots who should be working at Dairy Queen, you should actually try and help them.... be their friend..... toss in a few pointers that you had to learn over the years.
Maybe then they might not seem like such douches, grow up a little faster and make the whole workplace seem a little better for everyone...... as I'm pretty damn sure you needed help at some point too and those older then you seeing you walk in the door for the first time thought you were just as stupid and just as ignorant as you see these fresh faces.
The more things change, the more they stay the same....... some people just seem to forget their own earlier experiences.
Sure.... maybe you were really good at what you did....... and chances are you also acted like you were really good at what you did....... and I bet a few others you worked with complimented you on your abilities and good a worker you were...... and I also bet there were even more who mocked you behind your back and were jealous of your position at such a young age, who focused on the little petty things you screwed up on or what they saw as you avoiding responsibility and pinning it on someone else...... who thought you were stupid and shouldn't be in the position you are in and only ass-kissed those who put you there.
Sure, there's always one or two people who are truly morons and should never be in the position they're in, who always pass blame onto the other person...... the guy I mentioned in his 60's I worked with was one of them and everybody else around him were always trying to fix his screw ups, because he simply didn't give a damn..... he was retiring soon anyways so what did it matter to him?
Should I brand his entire generation with the same brush as you are doing?