Zircon hypersonic missile

[spilledthebeer]

Maybe it just means you are a liar or as stupid as a hammer.

Oh MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are the knucklehead who stated that "maybe the missile can use the suns position to mask its approach"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently the Muslim "engineer" is unaware that radar is not blinded by sun rays??????????????????


POOR FOOLISH TWIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I stand by my statement that you should donate your skull to the Russian military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If they just mounted your dense, granite hard head on a Zircon missile they would have the most incredible armour piercing projectile on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Oh MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are the knucklehead who stated that "maybe the missile can use the suns position to mask its approach"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently the Muslim "engineer" is unaware that radar is not blinded by sun rays??????????????????


POOR FOOLISH TWIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I stand by my statement that you should donate your skull to the Russian military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they just mounted your dense, granite hard head on a Zircon missile they would have the most incredible armour piercing projectile on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't seem to realize that something going a gazillion miles an hour isn't steerable, either.

Not the brightest LED on the console.

 

[MHz]

Oh MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are the knucklehead who stated that "maybe the missile can use the suns position to mask its approach"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently the Muslim "engineer" is unaware that radar is not blinded by sun rays??????????????????


POOR FOOLISH TWIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I stand by my statement that you should donate your skull to the Russian military!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If they just mounted your dense, granite hard head on a Zircon missile they would have the most incredible armour piercing projectile on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really? You should all be my minions by now, . . . . as it stands I don't see that happening anytime soon, . . . . maybe after all the cows come home.

Until then, that ringing sound you all here is 'the phone' with an important memo update.

It's times like this I miss having a tungsten dick and your brain, via your ass, was the target.

America Hypersonic speeds up to Mach 7

 

[MHz]

POOR FOOLISH TWIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How to defeat Hypersonic-Missile?



Spoiler, . . . you can't.

 

[petros]

How to defeat Hypersonic-Missile?
Spoiler, . . . you can't.

Oh yes you can. With a hypervelocity, laser guided projectiles that can be fired by existing cannons that are easily converted.

Old school ICBMs already are hypervelocity post apogee.

It's not a game changer like hypervelocity projectiles.

Russia only has hypervelocity nukes but as I said they are pointless.

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
How the U.S. Is Quietly Winning the Hypersonic Arms Race
David Axe
01.16.19 5:23 AM ET

The United States, Russia, and China all tested new super-fast “hypersonic” munitions in 2018, escalating a global competition for weaponry that can strike farther and harder than ever before and potentially defeat existing defenses.

The Russian and Chinese hypersonics tests were the most dramatic. But the much quieter American trial pointed toward a much more immediate and widespread transformation of military capabilities than the Russians or Chinese are likely to achieve.


The world's armies have long eyed faster munitions, especially faster munitions that also are maneuverable. Swifter, nimbler rockets could strike with less warning and evade missile-defense systems. Speedier, more streamlined artillery shells could travel farther and impact with greater destructive force.

Most experts agree: If a weapon can travel at least five times the speed of sound, it's hypersonic—although some say the munition must be maneuverable, too, to be effective.


In late December, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that the Kremlin had tested the new Avangard hypersonic rocket. "The test was completely successful," Putin said. "All technical parameters were verified."

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Avangard is a hypersonic glide vehicle. It boosts into the upper atmosphere atop a rocket then detaches and glides toward its target, performing small maneuvers en route. The Kremlin announced it would fit Avangard with an atomic warhead and, starting in 2019, deploy it alongside old-style intercontinental ballistic missiles.

But as a delivery system for nuclear warheads, Avangard doesn't actually enhance Russia's military arsenal. That's because Russia's ICBMs already possess the range to strike targets all over the world and the speed to evade all but the luckiest shot by American missile defenses.

Indeed, ICBMs in the terminal phase of their flight already are hypersonic. Avangard flies lower in the atmosphere than an ICBM does and might be faster than an ICBM is in early phases of flight. The practical differences end there.

"I don't think this system brings any new capability that the existing weapons like ICBMs don't have," Pavel Podvig, an independent expert on the Russian military, told The Daily Beast.

James Acton, a weapons expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, D.C., said a nuclear-armed hypersonic weapon is no more threatening than an older ICBM is. "What does concern me is a very long-range conventionally-armed system," he added.


Unlike a nuke, a conventional weapon might actually get used in scenarios short of a world-ending apocalypse. "That would pose a real new threat to the United States,” Acton said.

It’s China, not Russia, that's making what seem the biggest strides toward fielding a non-nuclear hypersonic weapon. But even China's new weapon is less fearsome than it might appear to be. Ironically, its own sophistication holds it back.

Around the same time Putin announced the results of the Avangard test, a photo appeared online that showed a Chinese warship sailing the open ocean while armed with an electromagnetic railgun that could be capable of firing shells at hypersonic velocity.

A railgun propels its projectiles by way of magnetic force, as opposed to explosive-powder charges that conventional guns use.

China's railgun first appeared in January 2018 in a photo of the Chinese navy landing vessel Haiyang Shan while the ship reportedly was at a facility in Wuhan on the Yangtze River. A large cannon was visible on Haiyang Shan's forward deck.

In March, Chinese state media confirmed the cannon was an experimental railgun. The December photo seemed to confirm that the gun had undergone at-sea tests, making it the first such weapon to do so.

The U.S. Navy since 2012 has been developing its own railgun, but as of early 2019 the weapon had yet to go to sea. That doesn't mean the Americans weren't working on super-fast weapons, however.


Pentagon officials in early January leaked news of the U.S. Navy's own hypersonics test, this one involving a Navy warship firing hypersonic shells during a summer 2018 war game near Hawaii. The Pentagon's secretive Strategic Capabilities Office helped to oversee the trial.

In the test, the destroyer USS Dewey fired 20 of the hypervelocity projectiles from its standard, five-inch-diameter gunpowder cannon, officials told the website of the U.S. Naval Institute.

The new projectile is more aerodynamic than old-style shells and features tiny fins and a radar guidance system that helps it to hone in on a target at speeds as fast as seven times the speed of sound. That’s roughly three times the velocity a normal naval shell can achieve.

Far-flying and accurate, the shells in theory can target ships, ground targets, aircraft and even incoming missiles.

At first glance, the American test might appear to be the least remarkable of the three countries' 2018 hypersonics trials. It didn't involve a new gun or missile, just a new, super-aerodynamic shell. The shell is non-nuclear. The Pentagon didn't formally announce the test or circulate any photos.

But the U.S. test arguably is the most likely to result in the widespread deployment of a truly transformational new weapon. And it underlines the Pentagon's advantage over the Russian and Chinese militaries in the hypersonics race.

While Russia, China and the United States all are developing a wide array of new hypersonic weapons, it’s telling which systems each country has prioritized.


Russia has focused on seemingly impressive but marginally useful hypersonic weapons that make for good PR but don’t actually shift the balance of power. China for its part has chosen to tinker with very advanced high technology that might prove impractical. America meanwhile has focused on less sophisticated weapons it’s reasonably certain it can deploy quickly and widely, while deferring development of more ambitious munitions designs until the technology is more mature.

"Experts often argue the United States is behind in this technology because Russia and China appear to be testing more frequently," Acton wrote in an explainer on the Carnegie Endowment website. "This is true, but in many ways, the United States is running a different race from Russia and China."

Usefulness and scalability are the American weapon's major advantages over the Russian and Chinese weapons. In opting to develop a unique, electromagnetic cannon to fire super-fast projectiles, China has limited how fast it can deploy its new hypersonic weapon.

To re-equip with hypersonic munitions, Beijing will need to build expensive new guns for its ships and artillery units. Washington's forces, by contrast, simply can arm thousands of existing sea- and land-based powder guns with the new hypersonic shell.

That was a deliberate choice on the Americans' part. In 2016, Robert Work, the Obama administration's deputy secretary of defense, advised the incoming Trump administration to consider investing in hypervelocity projectiles rather than in railguns.

“We thought railguns were something we were really going to go after, but it turns out that powder guns firing the same hypervelocity projectiles gets you almost as much as you would get out of the electromagnetic rail gun, but it’s something we can do much faster," Work said.

"We now think that we can do pretty revolutionary things with existing powder guns—think howitzers, [U.S. Army] Paladin [artillery systems], the Navy’s five-inch guns," William Roper, then the head of the Strategic Capabilities Office, said in 2016. "We’ve shifted emphasis to that."

“We have a thousand powder guns," Roper added. "We have very few railguns."

Russia and China with their showy demonstrations and bespoke technology might appear to have pulled ahead in the early laps of the race for hypersonic weapons. But the United States, with its emphasis on a weapon that it can deploy quickly and actually use in a non-nuclear war, ultimately could gain the military advantage.

 

[petros]

Thna!

 

[MHz]

. . . . . . but as I said they are pointless.

Your words mean fuk all in the real world. Seem the Rothschild wagon runs on bullshit and is driven by psychopaths.

 

[Tense81]

I think perhaps the Russians have been using your head as a target for their Zircon missiles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That might explain why your logic is so fragmented and damaged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article illustrating that LIE-beral efforts to buy the votes of Muslims is a dangerous game! With some commentsof my own in brackets):
Never forget CAIR's dirty deeds
By Michelle Malkin
Published: March 24, 2019, Updated: March 24, 2019 6:01 PM EDT
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
The Council on American-Islamic Relations is having a banner month. The militant Muslim group never lets a crisis go to waste. That means Americans should beware. When unappeasable CAIR is ascendant, our free speech rights, religious liberty and national security are at risk.
(Muslims consider that freedom means they have the RIGHT to try to change us to suit THEM!! Muslims DO NOT immigrate to assimilate- they immigrate to DOMINATE!!!!!!!!!!)
Following the horrible massacre at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, CAIR flacks were out in full force decrying “Islamophobia” and calling for crackdowns on “hate speech” -by which they mean any and all negative thoughts or words about CAIR or Islam. CAIR executive director Nihad Awad was first out of the gate to blame U.S. President Donald Trump; target Fox News hosts Jeanine Pirro and Tucker Carlson, whom the left wants to silence; and renew opposition to White House efforts to tighten our immigration and entrance policies, including the travel ban affecting terror-sponsoring countries upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
(One has to WONDER at the AMAZING STRETCH of logic that can persuade Muslims that Donald Trump is to blame for the actions of a citizen of a FOREIGN COUNTRY on the other side of the world!)
(As for blaming news media for so called Islamophobia- simply reporting on the murderous atrocities perpetrated by radical Muslims is only wrong if you are a LIAR trying to HIDE the threat that radical Islam represents!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
One of the most vocal critics of policies to guard American sovereignty is radical Somali-born Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. CAIR leaders and members poured thousands of dollars into her campaign. This weekend, the America-bashing, Israel-deriding congresswoman will headline a sold-out fund-raising banquet in Southern California. It will be a triumphant celebration, no doubt, of Rep. Omar’s escape from Democratic leadership sanctions -with an invaluable assist from the CAIR lobby - for her nasty swipes at Republicans, Jews, and, of course, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
(The election of Somali born Omar is yet more proof that ONLY citizens born in the country should be eligible for public office! The foreign born bring too much baggage and divided loyalties to the job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(In the Cdn case- we have staunch Muslim LIE-beral immigration minister Hussein representing a party calling for hate crime charges against anybody who DARES speak harshly of LIE-beral policy!!! Nazis could not be more harsh against their critics than our LIE-berals DESIRE to be!! Fortunately LIE-berals do not yet have the nerve to implement their Islaomphobia M 103 Motion !!!!!!!!)
While they drape themselves in the mantle of “civility,” the CAIR brigade speaks viciously and cavalierly about their enemies. Omar says Trump is not “human.” On an Arab-American talk show, she mocked a college professor who treated terrorist organizations al-Qaida and Hezbollah with gravity. She cackled at how he named them with a sternness in his voice and questioned why the words “Army” and “America” are not uttered with equal contempt. I can hear the ululations of agreement at the CAIR banquet now.
(Muslims have a DISTURBING VISION of their place in the world! The Muslim vision is much like the Nazi or Soviet ideal of being the last and best example of humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Muslims happily tell us that Sharia Law is “the most perfect system” for all citizens! And Muslims tell us there is NO USE arguing with them because the words of the Prophet are THE FINAL WORDS of God! NONE MAY ARGUE!!!)
(And there can be NO APPEAL from Muslim judgement- because THEY SPEAK FOR GOD in all things!!! The will of a democracy is IRRELEVANT!! And of course this conviction that Muslims speak for God means that religious law and civil law are blended!! To speak against any civil law is to be a blasphemer speaking also against GOD and against his special religious representatives!!!!!!!)
Let’s not kid ourselves about these exploiters and sowers of division. They thrive on violence whether Muslims are the victims or the perpetrators. CAIR operatives are first to claim systematic oppression and fear of a “backlash” if bloodthirsty Islamic jihadists slay innocent Americans. It’s always our fault and it’s always our responsibility — to curtail our speech, give up our gun rights, undergo sensitivity training, accept inflated statistics about “hate crimes” and apologize for everything. CAIR wants to shut up its critics in the name of “stopping the hate” because it doesn’t want us talking about its dirty, dangerous deeds.
(Muslims HIDE POLITICAL aspirations behind their religious convictions!!!!!!!)
Never forget: The federal government designated CAIR an un-indicted terror co-conspirator in 2007 in the prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation and others for providing support to violent Hamas jihadists. Investigators tied CAIR’s founders to the Islamic Association for Palestine, founded by a senior Hamas jihadist to serve as the terrorist group’s public relations and recruitment arm in America. The Holy Land Foundation, a terror-financing charity, provided seed money for CAIR’s Beltway office.
(Muslim activities are always designed to either win us over to their way or to fatally weaken us so they can have a free hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: CAIR is a designated terror organization in the United Arab Emirates.
Never forget: Federal law enforcement investigators banned interactions with CAIR to “prevent CAIR from publicly exploiting such contacts with the FBI.”
(Islam is a creeping political cancer invading us with willing LIE-beral help in exchange for vote so LIE-berals can cling to powerr at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: Ghassan Elashi, a founding board member of CAIR’s Texas chapter, was convicted of laundering money for Hamas terrorism. CAIR’s civil rights director Randall Todd Royer trained with the al-Qaida-linked jihad group Lashkar-e-Taiba and was convicted of conspiring to engage in terror activities. Bassem Khafagi, former CAIR community affairs director and a founder of the sharia-promoting Islamic Assembly of North America, was deported back to his home country of Egypt after being convicted for bank and visa fraud.
(As if we did not have enough trouble with secular organized crime- such a Mafia, Chinese Triads, South American drug cartels and assorted bikers- now we have to worry about radical RELIGIOUS HATE as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: CAIR officials in California rushed in front of cameras after the San Bernardino jihad attack in 2015 to blame American foreign policy instead of the killers. CAIR provided aid, comfort and legal assistance to the mass shooters’ families.
(Yes- imagine NOT BLAMING a Muslim who immigrated to United States and got himself a nice paying govt job and a wife and a house and a car and then got some guns and he and the wife opened fire on other citizens!!)
(Why immigrate to a place you HATE unless you are either a hypocritical LUNATIC or unless you PLANNED to take some VILE action in the future?????
And is it not odd how often Muslim shooters are excused by reason of insanity???)
(Muslims are QUICK to raise the insanity defense so we will not grow very angry and CLOSE the borders to the murderous LOONS!! We must deal with home grown crazies but WHY do we need to IMPORT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: Last summer, CAIR stoked a fake hate crime perpetrated by an Odessa, Texas, waiter who falsely claimed he received a customer’s receipt with the message: “We don’t tip terrorist.”
(And let us not forget the 9 year old Toronto girl who was coached by adults to tell cops that a white man had tried to remove her head scarf!!!!!!!! Or we could talk about the Oshawa Muslim who claimed that a white racist attacked him in a public washroom and cops eventually exposed the guy as a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: CAIR disseminated the fake claims of a deranged Muslim New York teenager who lied about having her hijab ripped off by Trump supporters.
Never forget: CAIR helped manufacture the “Clock Boy” fake hate claim in Texas — after which, Clock Boy jetted off to Qatar to cash in on a Muslim Brotherhood-linked educational scholarship.
Never forget: CAIR has flexed its censorship muscle by squelching critics of Somalia-based jihad group al-Shabab in Minnesota and smearing them as “anti-Muslim” — even if they were Muslim.
(So many Muslims are so radical they even hate each other more than they hate us!!!!!!!! The Muslim terrorist attack with the highest casualty rate was perpetrated by Muslims against other Muslims in Mogadishu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Never forget: CAIR works every day to silence Muslim reformers, apostates, Christians, Jews, infidel scholars, border security advocates, anti-sharia activists and investigative independent journalists, on college campuses, TV airwaves and the internet, to prevent us from exposing the truth about Islamic supremacism.
(Toronto Sun reporter Muslim Tarek Fatah has a Fatwa against him - calling for the “Faithful” to MURDER Him for not offering suitable respect for Islam!!)
(Muslims in Pakistan spent a month rioting, killing and injured hundreds because their Justice Minister gave a speech and forgot to properly thank Allah - and then refused to resign for the gaffe!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To quote the late and dearly missed Italian journalist and fierce lioness Oriana Fallaci, who faced trial and death threats for “insulting Islam:”
Lan astaslem. “I will not surrender.”
(TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!! Our LIE-beral overlords have ALREADY Surrendered!!!!!
(The gates are thrown open and the invaders enter in a steady Deluge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Nationalsocialism won against everything in communism but not the largest in Europe, the USSR is mentioned because like those in the Korean Peninsula had enormous force on land troops could not defeat against by Germany's 3.5 million land troops but the Germans began strongly but it did not work. Then thought Muslim and dark are those progressive kind and by white all the thing are not Catholic's my expected thing then Orthodox are communists just is a anti USA thing.

 

[spilledthebeer]

This weapon is a peace maker.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Beavers are slow moving creatures and thus, .......................................


the Russians can use it to force all Dark Beavers into a life of peace and mindless contentment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if Russians use the special MHz armour piercing skull weapons..................................


Dark Beavers will not even be safe in their lodges under BIG piles of sticks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All hail Soviet hegemony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Zircon weapon is an absurd update to Nazi style propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Exposing one single FLAWED WEAPON from multiple angles to make it look like you have LOTS of USEFUL weapons is an OLD TRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Curious Cdn]

You just step to one side and let it whizz by because it sure can't react and steer towards your course changes at those speeds. There are both electronic and physical countermeasures that could knock one of those the one or two degrees off course required to have them miss.

Paper tigers. They may sink one or two unprepared adversaries. Slower moving weapons can waunder all over the place at high, then low, then high, then low again altitudes, and "fake you out" before they plow into your waterline. You overcome the defending Close In Weapons Systems by launching multiple projectiles programmed to hit the ship from different directions within seconds of each other, so that there is no chance of re-loading the CIWS.

Cheap drone swarms have a brilliant future as a lot of potential targets in a cloud zinging around you will confuse the computers all to hell.

 

[spilledthebeer]

weapons under development


The carbon tax will be cheap compared to the bill for this.

Banning illegals will be CHEAP...................................................


compared to the cost of allowing LIE-berals to continue rounding them up...................................


and keeping them like stray cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gilgamesh]

How to defeat Hypersonic-Missile?



Spoiler, . . . you can't.

With radar & lasers you could. Radar and light are both Electro-magnetic-radiation and not only the fastest speed possible by far,they are way way faster than any hypersonic can ever be.

Light =186,000 miles per sec.

Missile 7000-9000 miles per hour.

BTW the Neanderthal who thinks that gravity can't bend light because it is too fast should sue their school system.

Gravity does bend light but it takes the mass of a star to even do it very very slightly.

Photons have no mass. So other than space being warped, for all practical purposes, light cannot be be bent.

Check with Uncle Albert. He explained it in Austria 100 years ago.

However, the Russian missile is probably someone's wet dream or years from being operational.

We can bet that the. U.S is at least on par with Czar Putrid.

Canada was going to build one too, however due to enviro-weenies, FN protests, and PQ demanding a bilingual weapon built in Quebec, and JT being unable to understand the conceptm the project was cancelled..

 

[MHz]

With radar & lasers you could. Radar and light are both Electro-magnetic-radiation and not only the fastest speed possible by far,they are way way faster than any hypersonic can ever be.
Light =186,000 miles per sec.
Missile 7000-9000 miles per hour.

Key word is 'could'. If they are nit in operation today they will not save you from weapons that are on the shelf in Russia and China today. The item pictured is part of the S-400 air defense package, it will level a ground launch site before they can move or reload. They are in mass production if needed. How often is it mentioned in the news, now you know why.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-zicron-hypersonic-missile-now-land-attack-mode-46597
According to Russian sources, the Zircon is derived from the supersonic P-800 Oniks, though the drawings of the Zircon looks significantly different from the P-800. The dimensions of the missiles are comparable, with the Zircon estimated to be between 8-10 meters long and the P-800 being 8.6 meters long in the surface-launched variant.
Given that the missiles are approximately similar in dimensions, it’s possible to estimate the warhead size of the Zircon based on the P-800. The P-800’s “battle compartment” which houses the warhead is located in the nose of the missile and is relatively small, due to the constraints of the air-intake and ramjet engine. Although the Zircon missile moves the air intake to the bottom of the missile, the nose is also far more slanted and sharp than the P-800, so the “battle compartment” is likely of the same size or smaller.

Based on this, we can estimate the payload of the ground-attack Zircon. The P-800 has a payload of either a 200kg high explosive or 250kg semi-armor-piercing warhead. It’s probably safe to assume the Zircon has a warhead of 200 kilograms or less given the shape of the missile and comparative weights.
This makes it less than ideal for the ground-attack role. To compare, the Iskander-M ballistic missile has a payload of around 700 kg, and the Kaliber cruise missile has a payload of 450 kg. While the Zircon is not interceptable by any known means, it is unlikely to be able to take out more hardened NATO installations due to its small warhead.

BTW the Neanderthal who thinks that gravity can't bend light because it is too fast should sue their school system.
Gravity does bend light but it takes the mass of a star to even do it very very slightly.
Photons have no mass. So other than space being warped, for all practical purposes, light cannot be be bent.
Check with Uncle Albert. He explained it in Austria 100 years ago.

Isn't there some academy that approves all that stuff first?? When light goes in all direction from a single point how do you tell it has been 'bent'? A color change is used to tell 'speed' so how is it measured? 'Very, very slightly' is the official measurement for a star the size of our sun is it? I was looking fir an example of that using the devices we have available to us in this century. You do not build a rocket with a sundial and an abacus now do you??

However, the Russian missile is probably someone's wet dream or years from being operational.

We can bet that the. U.S is at least on par with Czar Putrid.

What if I was able to send a rover to the moon that has a mirror that could be deployed into a dish-shape that could be moved so the light reflected could be focused into a single point of light could that be used as a weapon that uses the heat from the reflected light to attack an object circling the earth in the vacuum of space ir would the heat aspect be something that would make it a moon only weapon. Nobody has said anything about the flash of light on the moon the same time an eclipse was happening. Light reflected to earth would have light but no new impact site on the moon and no dust cloud that should remain visible for years. Using burst data transfer hiw much could be sent in the time the light could be seen?? That fit your demand we be pretty smart alraedy??

Canada was going to build one too, however due to enviro-weenies, FN protests, and PQ demanding a bilingual weapon built in Quebec, and JT being unable to understand the conceptm the project was cancelled..

A wall of ice seems to work pretty good on the Thrones show, a few 1,000 miles of frozen Tundra will do the same as a cliff as far as keeping invading hoards away. Only in Quebec or is this some kiddies cartoon you are living in??

 

[spilledthebeer]

Key word is 'could'. If they are nit in operation today they will not save you from weapons that are on the shelf in Russia and China today. The item pictured is part of the S-400 air defense package, it will level a ground launch site before they can move or reload. They are in mass production if needed. How often is it mentioned in the news, now you know why.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-zicron-hypersonic-missile-now-land-attack-mode-46597
According to Russian sources, the Zircon is derived from the supersonic P-800 Oniks, though the drawings of the Zircon looks significantly different from the P-800. The dimensions of the missiles are comparable, with the Zircon estimated to be between 8-10 meters long and the P-800 being 8.6 meters long in the surface-launched variant.
Given that the missiles are approximately similar in dimensions, it’s possible to estimate the warhead size of the Zircon based on the P-800. The P-800’s “battle compartment” which houses the warhead is located in the nose of the missile and is relatively small, due to the constraints of the air-intake and ramjet engine. Although the Zircon missile moves the air intake to the bottom of the missile, the nose is also far more slanted and sharp than the P-800, so the “battle compartment” is likely of the same size or smaller.

Based on this, we can estimate the payload of the ground-attack Zircon. The P-800 has a payload of either a 200kg high explosive or 250kg semi-armor-piercing warhead. It’s probably safe to assume the Zircon has a warhead of 200 kilograms or less given the shape of the missile and comparative weights.
This makes it less than ideal for the ground-attack role. To compare, the Iskander-M ballistic missile has a payload of around 700 kg, and the Kaliber cruise missile has a payload of 450 kg. While the Zircon is not interceptable by any known means, it is unlikely to be able to take out more hardened NATO installations due to its small warhead.

Isn't there some academy that approves all that stuff first?? When light goes in all direction from a single point how do you tell it has been 'bent'? A color change is used to tell 'speed' so how is it measured? 'Very, very slightly' is the official measurement for a star the size of our sun is it? I was looking fir an example of that using the devices we have available to us in this century. You do not build a rocket with a sundial and an abacus now do you??




What if I was able to send a rover to the moon that has a mirror that could be deployed into a dish-shape that could be moved so the light reflected could be focused into a single point of light could that be used as a weapon that uses the heat from the reflected light to attack an object circling the earth in the vacuum of space ir would the heat aspect be something that would make it a moon only weapon. Nobody has said anything about the flash of light on the moon the same time an eclipse was happening. Light reflected to earth would have light but no new impact site on the moon and no dust cloud that should remain visible for years. Using burst data transfer hiw much could be sent in the time the light could be seen?? That fit your demand we be pretty smart alraedy??




A wall of ice seems to work pretty good on the Thrones show, a few 1,000 miles of frozen Tundra will do the same as a cliff as far as keeping invading hoards away. Only in Quebec or is this some kiddies cartoon you are living in??

OH WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MHz runs his amazing mind at THE SPEED OF LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Until he runs smack into logic and reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At that point MHz imitates a bug on a car windshield!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you aware of the old riddle??????????????????????????????


The one that asks: "what is the last thing to go though a bugs mind when it hits your car windshield??????????



The last thing to go through that bugs mind is its assh+le!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you understand your own relationship to this bug on the windshield .........................................


and your own encounters with reality???????????????????????????

 

[Gilgamesh]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thank for MHz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For your news report from Dimension ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Comparison of various Russian, Chinese and Yankee weapons under development reveal that Yankee versions are likely to BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND EASIER TO DEPLOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees are seeking to upgrade existing weapons -things like creating smart munitions that can be fired from existing 5 inch naval guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The new 5 inch shells would have rocket assist and have a range of 250 MILES coupled with EXTREME ACCURACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankees are also seeking out new generation anti missile defenses- a much expanded and more sophisticated version of the old Yankee Patriot Missile System and the current Israeli Iron Dome technology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Yankee efforts are focused on relatively cheap upgrades THAT CAN BE MASS PRODUCED and installed swiftly onto existing ships and weapon systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By comparison the Russians and Chinese are focused on radical new technology that will be VERY COSTLY and complex - with resulting economic limitations on how many of the new weapons they can AFFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Russian and Chinese Weapon deployment will also be hampered the the further cost and delays required to substantially alter ships and other equipment to handle the new weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ability of Russians and Chinese to successfully deploy the new weapons anywhere near a war zone has been brought into question by the newly displayed ability of F 35 fighters to breeze through Russian and Chinese radar defenses around Damascus and by the ability of F 35`s to hide from Russian, Chinese and Iranian anti aircraft missiles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Russians and Chinese MAY NOT be able to use their grand new weapons in time of trouble if F-35 fighters and other Yankee assets -that Russians and Chinese NEVER SAW COMING - have destroyed the new weapons before they can be used!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Russians and Chinese are engaged in the same propaganda DECEPTION ADOLF HITLER used in 1938 to bully western LIE-beral;s into giving him Czechoslovakia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hitler promoted his air force as a vast and potent weapon when it was still a small force with a LIMITED NUMBER of modern weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is not to say Russians and Chinese and Iranians are ill armed......................I merely point out that MHz and his ilk very much want to FRIGHTEN US with their BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rocket assisted shells cost twice that of a Tomahawk cruise missile, have less range, and they are no more accurate. Doubtful they will ever be deployed.

Try again.

 

[MHz]

This is an operational cruise missile, as well as the ones used few time in Syria.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-n-26/
SS-N-26 “Strobile”(P-800 Oniks)/Yakhont/Yakhont-M at a Glance

Originated From: Russia
Possessed By: Russia, Indonesia, Syria, Vietnam
Alternate Names: SS-N-26 “Strobile”, P-800 Oniks, Yakhont, Yakhont-M, (Bastion-P,Bastion-S launch systems)
Class: Anti-ship Cruise Missile (ASCM)
Basing: air-, ship-, sub-launched
Length: 8.6 m for surface-to-surface missile (SSM) (8.3 m for air-to-surface missile (ASM))
Diameter: 670 mm
Launch Weight: 3,000 kg for SSM (2,550 kg for ASM)
Payload: Single Warhead
Warhead: HE submunitions, semi-armour piercing
Propulsion: Solid Propellant, Ramjet
Range: 300 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 2002 (2015 for Bastion systems)

SS-N-26 Development

The P-800 Oniks was first developed in 1993 by NPO Mashinostroyenia. In 1999, they developed the ground-launched export version, the Yakhont, and an air-launched version, the Yakhont-M. A sub-launched version has been proposed to be fitted to Yasen-class attack submarines, and the Bastion-P and Bastion-S launch systems have since been developed as well. 3
The Oniks was first deployed in 2002 on Russia’s Nakat-class missile ship. 4 The Bastion missile launch systems were first deployed in 2015 with the Russian Army. 5



This is a ballistic missile that has no be that could take out anything it is targeting, incliding Patriot and Iron/dome batteries.


https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-26/


Iskander At a Glance

Originated From: Russia
Possessed By: Russia
Alternate Name: SS-26, Stone, Tender, 9M720, 9M723
Class: Short-range Ballistic Missile (SRBM)
Basing: Road-mobile
Length: 7.3 m
Diameter: .92 m
Launch Weight: 3,000-4,020 kg
Payload: Single warhead
Warhead: HE, submunitions, FAE, HE penetration, Nuclear
Propulsion: Single-stage solid propellant
Range: 400-500 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 2007

The Iskander has two variants, the ‘Tender’ or ‘Iskander-M’ for the Russian Federation military and the ‘Iskander-E’ version for export. The Iskander is 7.3 m long, 0.92 m in diameter, and has a launch weight of 3,800 to 4,020 kg. The Tender has a range of 400 km and a payload of approximately 700 kg. The Iskander-E has a reduced range of 280 km, and payload of about 480 kg. Both systems employ a single separating warhead equipped with a terminal guidance system, though the accuracy of the missile depends upon which system is used. An inertial guidance system would likely give an accuracy of around 200 m CEP while inertial guidance coupled with a Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) or equivalent system would likely provide about 50 m CEP. The use of the inertial navigation, GPS, and active radar or electro-optical sensors provides an accuracy of 10 to 30 m CEP. Its warheads can be equipped with high explosives (HE), submunitions, fuel-air explosives or an HE penetrator. It is also capable of delivering nuclear payloads. During the terminal phase, the missile is reportedly capable of maneuvering and can release decoys.1
The Iskander is a tactical missile system designed to be used in theater level conflicts. It is a strike system developed to attack key military and support units. It was designed as a replacement for the OTR-23 which exceeded the 500 km Intermediate Nuclear Force (INF) treaty restriction on range. The export version was placed under the more rigorous 300 km restriction of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR). A fully formed Russian Iskander brigade consists of 12 launchers.2
The SS-26’s accuracy and variety of warhead types make it an extremely flexible battlefield system. It was designed to be able to destroy both stationary and moving targets, specifically SAM sites, short-range missile launchers, airfields, ports, command and communication centers, factories and hardened defensive targets.
The TEL vehicle carries two missiles and is armored with a plated sliding roof for the protection of the missile and its three operators. The missiles are resistant to the effects of outside temperatures (from -50° to +50° C), as well as offering Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) protection, enabling the missile to be fired in almost any environment. It is amphibious and can travel at 70 km/h (43 mph) and does not require refueling for 1,100 km (684 miles). Each TEL vehicle contains all the requirements to operate completely independently. Reload vehicles, each carrying two missiles and a crane, enable prolonged battlefield operations.3

 

[Curious Cdn]

This is an operational cruise missile, as well as the ones used few time in Syria.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-n-26/
SS-N-26 “Strobile”(P-800 Oniks)/Yakhont/Yakhont-M at a Glance
Originated From: Russia
Possessed By: Russia, Indonesia, Syria, Vietnam
Alternate Names: SS-N-26 “Strobile”, P-800 Oniks, Yakhont, Yakhont-M, (Bastion-P,Bastion-S launch systems)
Class: Anti-ship Cruise Missile (ASCM)
Basing: air-, ship-, sub-launched
Length: 8.6 m for surface-to-surface missile (SSM) (8.3 m for air-to-surface missile (ASM))
Diameter: 670 mm
Launch Weight: 3,000 kg for SSM (2,550 kg for ASM)
Payload: Single Warhead
Warhead: HE submunitions, semi-armour piercing
Propulsion: Solid Propellant, Ramjet
Range: 300 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 2002 (2015 for Bastion systems)

SS-N-26 Development
The P-800 Oniks was first developed in 1993 by NPO Mashinostroyenia. In 1999, they developed the ground-launched export version, the Yakhont, and an air-launched version, the Yakhont-M. A sub-launched version has been proposed to be fitted to Yasen-class attack submarines, and the Bastion-P and Bastion-S launch systems have since been developed as well. 3
The Oniks was first deployed in 2002 on Russia’s Nakat-class missile ship. 4 The Bastion missile launch systems were first deployed in 2015 with the Russian Army. 5
This is a ballistic missile that has no be that could take out anything it is targeting, incliding Patriot and Iron/dome batteries.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-26/
Iskander At a Glance
Originated From: Russia
Possessed By: Russia
Alternate Name: SS-26, Stone, Tender, 9M720, 9M723
Class: Short-range Ballistic Missile (SRBM)
Basing: Road-mobile
Length: 7.3 m
Diameter: .92 m
Launch Weight: 3,000-4,020 kg
Payload: Single warhead
Warhead: HE, submunitions, FAE, HE penetration, Nuclear
Propulsion: Single-stage solid propellant
Range: 400-500 km
Status: Operational
In Service: 2007

The Iskander has two variants, the ‘Tender’ or ‘Iskander-M’ for the Russian Federation military and the ‘Iskander-E’ version for export. The Iskander is 7.3 m long, 0.92 m in diameter, and has a launch weight of 3,800 to 4,020 kg. The Tender has a range of 400 km and a payload of approximately 700 kg. The Iskander-E has a reduced range of 280 km, and payload of about 480 kg. Both systems employ a single separating warhead equipped with a terminal guidance system, though the accuracy of the missile depends upon which system is used. An inertial guidance system would likely give an accuracy of around 200 m CEP while inertial guidance coupled with a Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) or equivalent system would likely provide about 50 m CEP. The use of the inertial navigation, GPS, and active radar or electro-optical sensors provides an accuracy of 10 to 30 m CEP. Its warheads can be equipped with high explosives (HE), submunitions, fuel-air explosives or an HE penetrator. It is also capable of delivering nuclear payloads. During the terminal phase, the missile is reportedly capable of maneuvering and can release decoys.1
The Iskander is a tactical missile system designed to be used in theater level conflicts. It is a strike system developed to attack key military and support units. It was designed as a replacement for the OTR-23 which exceeded the 500 km Intermediate Nuclear Force (INF) treaty restriction on range. The export version was placed under the more rigorous 300 km restriction of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR). A fully formed Russian Iskander brigade consists of 12 launchers.2
The SS-26’s accuracy and variety of warhead types make it an extremely flexible battlefield system. It was designed to be able to destroy both stationary and moving targets, specifically SAM sites, short-range missile launchers, airfields, ports, command and communication centers, factories and hardened defensive targets.
The TEL vehicle carries two missiles and is armored with a plated sliding roof for the protection of the missile and its three operators. The missiles are resistant to the effects of outside temperatures (from -50° to +50° C), as well as offering Nuclear, Biological and Chemical (NBC) protection, enabling the missile to be fired in almost any environment. It is amphibious and can travel at 70 km/h (43 mph) and does not require refueling for 1,100 km (684 miles). Each TEL vehicle contains all the requirements to operate completely independently. Reload vehicles, each carrying two missiles and a crane, enable prolonged battlefield operations.3

Files in straight lines, only. An idiot can design around that.

 

[MHz]

So why hasn't Israel and NATO then? They have the most idiots on the payroll than anybody.

 

[Curious Cdn]

So why hasn't Israel and NATO then?

Who says they haven't?

Sputnik?

AHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH!!

 

[MHz]

Janes.
With reported 500-km range from Kaliningrad, the Iskander-M can cover targets throughout Poland, the Baltic states, and southern Sweden. If armed with cruise missiles (SSC-8 or Russian designator 9M729), their reach is much greater. Their 2,000-km or greater range allows them to strike targets close to Paris.
Why Now? Why Not?
Iskander-M in Kaliningrad was always just a question of timing.
Since at least 2014, the Russian Army has temporarily deployed Iskander-M launchers to Kaliningrad from the “mainland” for exercises.
As CAST reported, Jane’s Defence Weekly published photographs of characteristic “tent-mobile shelters” under construction for the new SRBMs at the Chernyakhovsk base in February.
But why now? Because the missiles and associated equipment have been produced and Moscow loses nothing at this point.
The Kremlin always said it could deploy the new SRBMs to its Baltic exclave to counter Aegis BMD (Aegis Ashore) in Poland slated for completion in 2018.
There are enhanced U.S. and NATO ground deployments to Poland to assure the easternmost allies in the wake of Russia’s occupation of Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Perhaps relevant here is the possibility the U.S. Congress will authorize DOD development of a new U.S. intermediate-range missile to answer Russia’s material breach of the 1987 INF Treaty.
And U.S.-Russian relations are the worst since the end of the Cold War.
https://russiandefpolicy.blog/tag/iskander-m/