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ottawabill

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May 27, 2005
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I can't believe this!!

This is happening way too much in this country, government regualtions putting good solid businesses out of work.

The food board has made policies that are meant for Loblaws and expect small time bakers and Church bake sales to follow them....

You'd think the Tories would step in on this one!!!! I know I've asked them too!!


RENFREW -- A decision by a local family bakery to shut down this Saturday rather than implement up to $100,000 in upgrades ordered by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency has the whole town frosted.
According to a CFIA Fair Labelling Practices inspection report signed by retail food officer Kazimierz Wszol, the Renfrew Home Bakery's multitude of products lack "mandatory labelling information."
"A label on the principal display panel must have a common name, net weight declaration in metric units of measure, and the name and address of your store." In addition, a nutrition facts table will soon be mandatory, Wszol advised.
Bakery co-owner Pam Power said she was told all of the bakery's recipes will have to be professionally certified to CFIA satisfaction. That could cost as much as $800 per recipe. Pam and her husband Rick use up to 300 recipes. When they added those costs to the price tag for new labelling equipment and other improvements, they came up with $100,000.
'HOMESTYLE'


The Powers were even told they couldn't advertise the traditional term "home-made" because their products aren't made at home. They could, however, call them "homestyle."
Pam said the store has never had a complaint about packaging, description of contents, weights or quality. A log is kept of all ingredients and customers are informed of them upon request; weights aren't uniform because products are individually made by hand, causing minor discrepancies which customers never mention.
Pam said customers have been coming in all week to purchase souvenirs and to tell her and husband Rick how sad they are to see them go.
Long-time customers such as Connie Roffey are incensed.
"What right does the government have to tell us what to eat?" Roffey asked. "Shall we only eat what comes in a can or a box from the freezer loaded with preservatives?"
NO PLAN TO CLOSE
While the bakery has been up for sale for three years, the Powers had no intention of closing shop and were training a young employee for a possible takeover.
But the sudden appearance of the CFIA inspector to tell them they were in contravention of a 35-year-old law was the last straw. Pam said it became clear they couldn't do the work necessary to meet a Jan. 1 compliance deadline while also dealing with the Christmas baking rush, so they decided to pull the plug.
"I don't want to turn over money we saved for retirement and to put the kids through school to satisfy more government regulations," Rick said, adding that he and Pam work 18-hour days in the bakery.
Area MP Cheryl Gallant, MPP John Yakabuski and Renfrew Mayor Sandi Heins have all intervened and hope something can be done to save the bakery which has been operating for 35 years on Argyle St.
Heins said that while rules are necessary, they should be applied to small businesses in a realistic way. Belleville-based CFIA retail food inspector John Singleton couldn't explain why Renfrew Home Bakery would suddenly be visited except that the agency is gradually, based on manpower availability, bringing small businesses to the same level of labelling and packaging compliance as larger businesses, and that no exceptions can be made.
 

ottawabill

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I sent an email to Cheryl Gallant and have heard back already that she is looking into this....

I just sucks so badly that a legitamate business is being bullied by the fed's to the point of closing....sucks!!

We have also had a farmer in our area being harrased because he sells ungraded eggs. All grading is, is to size them..nothing more, has noting to do with health issues saminella (sp?) or anything else but he has been shut down after selling at a stall.

Church Bake sales in Ontario have been stopped because they don't follow guidelines that are really meant for industrial bakeries...

This is all so stupid...
 

Sassylassie

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Another example of a power hungry government employee abusing their authority. They ignore enforcing this law for 35 years and pull it out of there hats now? In business for 35 and they haven't killed anyone yet so why the sense of urgency by the Goveberment wonkers. :confused:
 

ottawabill

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May 27, 2005
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This one has been the last straw for me... I sent 3 emails to the government..one to the local talk radio and broadcasted this to everyone on the email list as well as posting it here... Maybe I'm just one guy but I am hoping to get some real attention to this moronic food act!!

I have a local bee keeper who will now have to label the ingredients of his product on the glass jars....

He actually has to get all new labels to say

Ingredients:
Honey.
 

BigBen

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Yea, if they really want to follow through with all these regulations they should at least offer some sort of transitional assitance.
 

the caracal kid

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What is professional recipie certification?

I support better labeling and foodsafe regulations (along with better nutritional education, and getting the food lobby boards out of governement so that there is no bias in said nutritional education).
 

ottawabill

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They want each an every of their receipes to be examined an certified by the CFIA at the owners expense...remember this is a small town bakery not an industrial process. They expect each loa and cookie to be the same weight and size, they are made by hand. and they expect all this cost to be at their expense.

It's government gone bad!!! This is not to make sure a factory bakery is doing things right (full of people who don't care) this is a Dad and Mom making small batches. As long as the health inspector has deemed their place clean..what else matters??
 

Sassylassie

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The question I ask is why now? Perhaps a local LARGE Grocery chain complained, could this mom and pop business be in danger of going out of business because said inspector may be doing the dirty work of "Big Busness"? If they post the ingredients on the package what about trade secrets and the "Old Family" receipe. Something really stinks about this Bill, I smell a rat.

More Nanny goveberment, great just what we freaking need. I'm adult I decide what I eat, I can't read the writing on any package unless I'm wearing my glasses and I don't wear those in public. So when I buy something I haven't a clue what's in it, I'm still alive. Damn goverment and their desire to infect our daily lives with their Nanny attitude. Go away, I'm to old for a Nanny unless he's 22 and lifts weights then I'll consider it.
 

ottawabill

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hmm and we all wonder how old...opps thats another thread hahahaha...

There is something very wrong here, I honestly intend to find out. One is that Renfew is not to far from me, and the other is this could impact bakeries, farmers markets and church dinners right in my...or even your backyard.

The local conservative MP or Renfrew and my local conservative MP both said they are investigating and have promised to copy me on the results..They better..I do not intend to let this one go....

As you said Sassy I am an Adult and I'm not going to die cause they used corn flour instead of wheat..Damn then....


So far the head o CFIA (food inspection) doesn't even know why an inspector was at this bakery....

gotta go .....
 

the caracal kid

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Ingredient listing is important for people with sensitivites though. Listing the ingredients does not give away the recipie.

Nanny states: indeed! The question is who are they really protecting. It isn't the individual. Health regs are a determination of "acceptable risk" vs industry. The large chain grocery stores consist largely of chemical concoctions the are nutritionally deficient and harmful to the body.

Good luck with your quest, bill. I think they should still have to place an ingredients listing on the packages though.

"I'm not going to die cause they used corn flour instead of wheat"

Understanding nutrition and eating optimally requires knowing what you are eating. I am amazed when people take such a lazy position when it comes to their own welfare. Remember, the "a little won't kill you" attitude has been used by industry/gov countless times to cut corners on worker/individual safety, often with dire consequences.
 

Tonington

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I second that thought on food safety. 300 recipes is a large margin, if they find the costs too high then perhaps they should cut back on what recipes they are using. In today's food system, there needs to be accountability by the producers for the product they are selling. Large producers of food must label the ingredients they use and there should be no exceptions based on the size of operation. With the number of food alergens out there, can the small producer definitively tell a customer what the ingredients may have come in contact with during the manufacturing process? Only if they have that information from the producer of said ingredients.
 

ottawabill

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First let me say the points above work..and should be in place for mass sellers of food. We are talking here of a small town food bakery where people ome to actually stay away from the chemicals and additives that theses laws are in place for.

The ingredients they use are weird things like eggs, flour etc...

btw we are winning!!! the Land assc. in the area has started a protest and the local Gov. officials are looking into why cfia has targeted this guy!!!

Have a look

http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/11/04/2230738-sun.html
 

iARTthere4iam

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There was a big uproar this summer when CFIA showed up at an event and poured bleach in a batch of egg salad that was prepared by some church ladies. Damn gestapo bastards.
 

ottawabill

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What bothers me the most is how agressively they go after people who can't defend themselves.

You'd think these people will next barge into private houses to make sure the Turkey was not leaft on the table for 10 min's with no heat lamps for fear it may harm the residents around the table...It just mind boggling!!

This over regulation is actually happening everywhere, in most cases all it does is provide filing jobs for the excess paperwork..and nothing more. Nothig more outside of puting small cottage industries out of business...

Small industries provides most of the jobs and most of the tax revenue in this country but you'd think by the way they act, the government would be happier if we only had multi national monopolies running the show.
 

ottawabill

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Cfia Backs Down

Funny how they back away if you stand up to them!!!

Cfia has walked away from their food fight with a small bakery ..I couldn't be happier!!


Landowners K O - The CFIA
On Monday December 4, 2006 at a meeting in Ottawa the CFIA agreed to drop the compliance orders against the Renfrew Bakery. At the meeting CFIA Regional Director -Vicky Therrien confirmed the following to Pam & Rick Powers;
There is now no requirement to register recipes nor have them analysed.
No need to change the present labelling practices.
No need to purchase any new expensive equipment
The Powers will need to purchase a "Black magic marker" and identify the quanity of buns in a package.
Apparently, the CFIA could not read nor understand their own regulations and put many bakery owners through a hell of stress because of incompetence.
Many thanks to Scott Reid MP, Lanark, Frontenac, Lennox & Addington for accepting the OLA briefing package and his determined efforts to bring sense and reasonableness to the CFIA. In addition our thanks are extended to Chuck Strahl Minister of Agriculture and his aide Donald Boucher for reining in the stampede of stupidity that has overcome CFIA bureaucrats.
The Landowners will proceed with our Victory rally at noon on Friday December 8, 2006 in Renfrew, and encourage all members and supporters to come and celebrate another landowner victory.​
 

Sassylassie

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That is good news Bill, power to the people who battle incompetant goberment rules.:wave:
 

ottawabill

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I take no credit for the results but I certainly got my hands dirty with that one!!!

All I can say is that God we have some of the old Reform party members in power at the moment or nothing would have happened...

I don't know if you've heard about the farmer in Ontario selling raw milk...even though one of the ministers in cabinet is a customer they are shutting him out ..you buy the cow... you pay for it's upkeep and you get to keep the milk...The liberal gov of Ontario says thats wrong...

doesn't go through all the gov. hoops..bypasses the milk marketing board etc etc. but the liberals have no problem with it!!
 

L Gilbert

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Perhaps we should require politicians and bureaucrats to wear labels stating that they may not necessarily act in our interests to the best of their abilities and listing their qualifications (sort of like a warning label saying, "this ladder will not support more than 100 kg"). After all, aren't some of them deleterious to the health of some Canadians?