World Cup Thread

Toro

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Argentina, Germany and Spain have all looked fantastic. Italy has been efficient. Portugal has looked better than England. Brazil has been fairly flat for Brazil, but still better than most other teams in the tournament, including England. Assuming Italy, Brazil and Spain all get through, England would rank 7th of the quarter-finalists ahead of only the Switzerland/Ukraine winner. If France win, then 6th. I'm a fan of England and want them to win, but they don't look at all like world beaters. And we're four games into the tournament. There are no easy teams from here on in.
 

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Germany didnt look too fantastic when they played Ecuador, Spain, second rate team, Italy, too much controversy, Portugal havent looked better than England, did you watch their match?...did you?, they looked unorganised, ill-disciplined and frankly no better than the tem that went past us on pens in EURO 2004.

I also think France are too old now, really Brazil, if they put their act together are the only ones I see now posing a problem to England, see everyone says England looked bad, yes, at times they did, but you know about 6 of their players have the capacity to change a game with a single move, thats what make them dangerous
 

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England have talented players. But they are not looking like a side who can win the tournament. The fact that they have the best midfielders in the world is irrelevant if they don't play well.

Compare that Portugal's midfield today, who, in the first half especially, carved up Holland. Deco, Maniche and Figo have looked miles better than England. Very rarely have England put a decent move together. Nothing is flowing.

Its one-off from here on in. And England certainly have the talent. But if Portugal were at full strength, I'd be picking them over England on Saturday.
 

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did you watch euro 2004?, they had a better team than now, we had a worse one but were robbed, I think we could beat em, people write off england at their peril
 

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There is no doubt that England is not playing well. Its been said that they've got the best midfielders in the world with the likes of Gerrard and Lampard. But till now we have not seen much of them(though Gerrard scord 2 goals). Mind you Portugal is not Ecuador, with their constant blunders at the back, they might pay a high price against world class talents like Pauletta, Maniche and Figo
 

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I think with Deco, Costinho and perhaps Figo and Ronaldo out, England will be too much for Portugal. But England also look shaky in the back, and should have paid had it not been for the outstanding play by Ashley Cole.
 

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which is quite surprising really because until the last 2 games their defence has been out of this world, it was the left hand wing they had to sure up, I certainly think Ashley Cole did an outstanding job yesterday
 

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England kicked off against Ecuador in the searing 35C heat. This is Owen Hargreaves.
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John Terry runs past a defender.
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Castillo and Lampard.
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Wayne Rooney shows his displeasure at something.
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Owen Hargreaves screams in agony as he gets injured. But he recovered and played the rest of the game.
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Captain David Beckham celebrates his goal with Ashley Cole.
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The players celebrate.
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Beckham felt ill just before and during the game, and actually vomited a few times.

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Re: RE: World Cup Thread

Toro said:
including England. Assuming Italy, Brazil and Spain all get through, England would rank 7th of the quarter-finalists ahead of only the Switzerland/Ukraine winner.

Take no notice of world rankings. They mean nothing.

The US is ranked 5th in the world but they are not a better team than England who are ranked 10th. You're only ranked so high because you mostly play weak North American teams.

Germany have got the weakest team they've probably ever had and only got through to the next stage by beating lowly Poland and Costa Rica and then winning 3-0 against a weakened Ecuador team who rested its star players because they had already qualified. England came up against a full strength Ecuador team and deserved to win by more than one goal.

Germany will not get past Argentina in the next round. The Germans haven't beaten a Top 10 team since the year 2000.

Italy look ordinary to me and may even struggle against Australia as they did against the US. France are rubbish and just field a team of old-age pensioners. And Portugal will have to field a weakened side against England on Saturday as they picked up two red cards and have Ronaldo injured.
 

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Re: RE: World Cup Thread

Toro said:
. But England also look shaky in the back, and should have paid had it not been for the outstanding play by Ashley Cole.

And that's surprising everyone in England as defence is usually one of the best England qualities, if not THE best. When it comes to defending free-kicks and corners, England are usually brilliant. I think Phil Neville being out for the last 2 or 3 games through injury might have something to do with it.

I remember during the 2002 World Cup that England had the tournament's best defence.
 

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Around half the entire British population watched the game, the largest British TV audience ever.

32 million sweat it out with Becks & Co
25th June 2006



Beckham's wife and son watching the game.


The largest British TV audience of all time is believed to have watched England's World Cup win against Ecuador yesterday.

Up to 32million viewers are estimated to have seen David Beckham and Co win their place in the quarter-finals.

If confirmed, the figure will surpass the 31.5million who watched the funeral of Princess Diana in 1997.

But as usual, the England team made it agony for their fans with an unconvincing performance in the blistering heat of Stuttgart.

Increasing female interest in football and the Sunday afternoon kick-off are believed to be behind the rise in total viewers. They saw England's captain score the only goal of the match with a trademark 'Bend it like Beckham' free kick after 59 minutes.

It means he is the first England player to score in three World Cups, to the great delight of his three-year-old son Romeo, who was in the crowd with brother Brooklyn and mother Victoria. And for once, even the notoriously-straight-faced Posh managed a grin.

Four minutes after scoring, Beckham was sick on the pitch and he eventually came off just before full time, but a temporary stomach upset rather than anything more serious is thought to have been his only problem.

It was not until the final whistle that the estimated 42,000 England fans in the stadium allowed themselves to think of victory. Ecuador had just 2,000 supporters among the 51,500 crowd.

South Americans have ended England's World Cup dreams on three of the last four occasions they qualified. It was Argentina who prevailed in 1986 and 1998, and Brazil at the last tournament in 2002.

But England cannot now face South American opposition until the semi-final. They are expected to face Brazil at that stage, provided they manage to overcome Portugal in Saturday's quarterfinal.

Among those cheering the national side to victory at the stadium yesterday were 23 schoolchildren who were able to go to the game despite being caught up in an alleged ticket scam.

The pupils, from Mayville High School in Portsmouth, were amongst 350 youngsters across the country who paid up to £400 for a trip to Germany last weekend, organised by the tour operator Activ4.

After an intervention by Tony Blair all the children involved were offered tickets to alternative games, with one lucky group getting to see England beat Ecuador.

Mayville deputy head Martin Castle said after the game: "It has been absolutely incredible. We were sat dead in line with that free kick and could watch it in the whole way. People were recognis-ing the boys as the kids who didn't get their tickets and having their photographs taken with them.

"This was something very special - they will never forget this day."

Back at home doubting English gamblers had bet a fortune on Ecuador winning, with odds of 7-1 tempting one punter to wager £3,000. There was true faith in the national side elsewhere, however.

The Rev Neill Archer cancelled his normal Sunday family service yesterday and showed the England match on a big screen at Malmesbury Abbey, Wiltshire.

Mr Archer, a Leicester City fan, said: "This is to provide a safe and family-friendly big match atmosphere, without alcohol, smoking or bad language.

"We have apologised to those in our congregation who hate football, but this event is a good way of showing that the abbey is an accessible and relevant place."

dailymail.co.uk
 

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Re: RE: World Cup Thread

Daz_Hockey said:
good point, but he's only updating us really.....honest

Yes but that is just articles which he copies from websites.
 

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Re: RE: World Cup Thread

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Take no notice of world rankings. They mean nothing.

Those are my rankings, not FIFA's. England is the 7th best team left based on form.

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England came up against a full strength Ecuador team and deserved to win by more than one goal.

Really? Did England force the keeper to make a difficult save apart from the goal? Maybe he did but I can't remember one.
 

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Australia: SHOOT THE (insert expletive here :) ) BALL!

Edit: and an Italian dive to win the game. Should we be surprised?
 

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Italy 1-0 Australia.

Italy will play either Switzerland or Ukraine in the Quarter Final.

What drama! The score was 0-0 in the third minute of injury time at the end of the game, it was heading for extra-time, 15 minutes each way and then a possible penalty shootout, when the Italians suddenly thought: "Hand on a minute! We're Italian. So why don't we do what we normally do to win games in the World Cup. Let's cheat!" So what happened? With only around 10 seconds remaining on the clock, an Italian dived in the panalty area looking for a penalty, and the referee awarded it. They took the penalty kick, scored, and then the final whistle went.

Typical Italians. If you can't win, just cheat. And all this whilst their domestic game and several Italians clubs, including Italian Champions Juventus, are being investigated over allegations of match fixing.
 

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This week's World Cup's most annoying things -


English Premiership team Watford.


The World Cup's mascots who walk on with the players before each game.



1) German TV's fixation of the close-up shot of the ball just before the keeper hoofs it.

2) Brazil trying to make Ronaldo look less podgy by giving him the fat kid (mascot) to walk out with at the start of the game.

3) Portugal's Ronaldo looking pleadingly at referees after one of his theatrical tumbles.

4) And then when he doesn't get the decision, staring disbelievingly at himself on the stadium big screen.

5) All the mascots being made to trot out in Watford kits.

6) Samsung's advert: "Imagine you've scored some tickets to the finals." We can't, cos you corporate bandits got 'em all.

7) Commentator Peter Drury on Channel 3 describing passes as "sumptuous" and "gorgeous." Leave that poncey stuff for the tennis, mate.

8 ) Channel 3 microphones (for the pundits) that make Andy Townsend look like he's got a cotton bud hanging from his ear.

9) Shane Warne (Australian cricketer) as a pundit (for Australia VS Brazil on Channel 3). Who's next? David Hasselhoff?

10) Channel 3's eight-minute ad breaks that leave all the England manager rejects only 30 seconds of chaotic analysis.

11) TV journalists going to ask fans wearing face paint: "Are you gonna win today?"

12) Italy's classy underarm "sweat patch" shirts.

13) Those idiots who ruin everyone's enjoyment at games by taking whistles to grounds......and their two assistants for that matter.

14) Shameless firms jumping on the football bandwagon. M&S limited edition World Cup sandwich anyone?

15) The distinct lack of bad haircuts.......Argentina excepted.

16) Pre-match shot of old-dodderers who used to play - Platini, Cruyff, David James.

17) Endless shots of cheating, fat midget Maradona swirling his scarf above his head.

thesun.co.uk
 

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World Cup Questions of the Week.

1) That star above the French crest on their shirts - do they get all five when they've cleaned the shake machine and mastered the chip fryer?

2) When Ronaldo went to hospital feeling ill, how quickly did the doctors rule out motion sickness?

3) And is there more chance of Iain Dowie (manager of London team Charlton Athletic and ex-manager of fellow Londoners Crystal Palace) and his enemy Simon Jordan (Crystal Palace chairman) getting jiggy on Channel 3's "Celebrity Love Island" than England midfielders Lampard and Gerrard getting it together?
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And, lastly, a few odds and ends....



England striker Michael Owen on his injury that he sustained against Sweden: "When I told my little girl daddy had hurt his knee she asked me to put Postman Pat on."

Now if only Sven had done that instead of throwing Crouchie back on......
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A power cut in the Ivory Coast just before one of their games sparked a riot. Fans attacked the state electricity company's HQ with stones and wood.

"Where'd they get their energy?", someone nearly said.
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Dirty football moment of the World Cup....

Portugal winger Cristiano Ronaldo was voted top pin-up boy of the World Cup by a Dutch gay magazine.

The BBC commentator Guy Mowbray said during the Portugal VS Iran game: "Ronaldo's gone over to the other side. He'll soon be feeling Big Phil's (his manager's) breath on his neck."
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Italy NOT cheating!

The world of football was rocked today when it was claimed a game featuring Italian players wasn't rigged in any way at all.

FIFA officials found Italy's game against the Czech Republic took place without any prostitutes visiting the referee's hotel or the opposition keeper being nobbled. And no envelopes stuffed with cash turned up in the Czech dressing room.

"It's a disgrace," fumed an Italian FA official.
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Looking for love.......



Balding, specky Swede seeks someone to hold. Shy at coming forward, no need to be adventurous.

Great with tackle, you'll be capable of the occasional pass (that's ruled you out, Owen Hargreaves).

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