Women are coming to Canada just to give birth
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How is jus sanguinis better? Do you approve of the 1980s German "guest worker" laws for Turks, that basically said "You can come here and work, pay taxes, participate in society, raise children, but you will never be a citizen, and neither will your great-greatgrandchildren."
Ireland passed its jus soli citizenship to assure Brits in Ireland after the War of Independence that they wouldn't be summarily thrown out after generations of their families had made Ireland home. The U.S. Fourteenth Amendment's citizenship provisions served multiple purposes:
They assured Confederates that they wouldn't lose citizenship.
They assured minorities that the Southern states wouldn't be able to deny state citizenship.
They assured immigrants that they wouldn't be like the Turks in Germany, never able to call the U.S. home.
Maybe such assurances are outdated. There is certainly a push in the developed world to raise the drawbridge, pull up the ladder, and let in only selected, high-skill immigrants, and subject them and their families for generations to come to summary deportation at the convenience of the country. I'm just not sure I think it's a great idea to tell heads-up, hardworking people they would never belong, but the shiftless garbage who happened to be born to families that have been here awhile are sovereign citizens.
The Gastarbeiter program was created in the 50's.
Turks started coming 1960.
It was supposed to be come, work a couple years, go home. No wives, no kids, no nothing.
It was the Germans who mucked up in the 70's, by not booting the workers home.
The Turks have absolutely not integrated into Germany. At all. Zero.
Germany changed their laws in 2000 to allow the Turks born in Germany to have citizenship.
Your other examples occurred in a time when it was not possible to hop on a plane and fly
into a developed country to drop a kid. And that it why the rules should be changed.
Too many people treat citizenship as a joke to be scammed.
How did you 'earn' your citizenship? I'll be honest. I didn't earn it. I inherited it from my mother.
I bet that is the case for the majority in these forums.
I bet that is the case for the majority in these forums.
The suggestion forwarded is a policy suggestion. The numbers really have a limited role to play in it
How did you 'earn' your citizenship? If you 'earned' it the same way I did, then it was through birth.
You're welcome to renounce your Cdn citizenship at any time if you really feel that you didn't earn it.
It makes no difference to me how you or I got it, but in the same way that I can't just toodle on over to Switzerland or Japan and demand citizenship, Canada has an identical position.
It makes no difference to me how you or I got it, but in the same way that I can't just toodle on over to Switzerland or Japan and demand citizenship, Canada has an identical position.
Woulda been way shorter to just say "No idea."
So basically this is about tribalism. As evidenced by the fact that Dummy is leading the charge.
I know the history of the Gastarbeiter program. And I told you how it turned out.
When you make a categorical statement like that, a single example to the contrary explodes your assertion. Here it comes. . .
Mesut Özil.
I'm aware of that, thanks.
Your categories make no sense. Your proposal would lead to good, hardworking, productive, participating Canadians unable to be citizens, while worthless garbage get citizenship when they are not and will never be anything but a drag and a drain on Canada.
So, considering the utter non-responsiveness of your reply, I'll try again. . .
Why should Farouq ibn Fadlan, son of an engineer who immigrated to Canada, worked hard, paid taxes, and contributed to his community, himself educated in Canada, served in the Forces, and now holds gainful employment in a responsible position, be denied citizenship, whilst Dougie McKenzie, third-generation welfare absorber, has citizenship and all its benefits?
Is melanin count a consideration?
In that case, do you not have bigger fish to fry?
And by the way, umber is #72 on the International Standard Colour Pallette, not #16.
Still having trouble controlling discharge of implications and assumptions into your streams and waterways? You really need to step up enforcement on that.
No, you demonstrated your complete ignorance of the history,
you simply cherry pick what you want to.
Nowhere did I say citizenship could not be gained after a time of immigration and integration.
And while you are busy slagging off normal Canadians, I might remind you that the worthless white trash did a pretty
job of destroying your chosen brothers.
So I guess that makes you worse than worthless white trash, amiright ?
I'm not slagging off normal Canadians. I'm slagging off useless welfare absorbers. Are you denying that Canada has them?
I figure in your mind, any non-white is worse than worthless white trash. You show all the signs.
The City of Montreal had a real issue with that a few years back.... 100s of millions of liters into the St Larry at one point
And I figure you just show up to troll and accuse everyone of everything, but
your specialty seems to call everyone racist.
Are you trying to compensate for something ? Really small dick perhaps ?
Think being a big dick on the internet helps that out ?
Every nation has a few; it all depends on how much you enjoy a life of poverty.
Word got out, damn.
https://sputniknews.com/us/201708121056413702-canada-pressure-us-migrants/
The number of migrants trying to flee to Canada from the US in fear of expulsion has spiked dramatically in recent weeks. Radio Sputnik discussed the issue with Dr. Usha George, a professor and director of the Ryerson Centre for Immigration and Settlement at Ryerson University, Canada.
Canadian authorities said that asylum requests have increased threefold since the middle of July. Most of the asylum-seekers are Haitians, while some of them are of Yemeni and Somali descent.
According to the head of the Canadian union representing customs and immigration workers, up to 700 migrants cross the border weekly at the Lacolle crossing point.
"The pressure on the system is quite high," George told Radio Sputnik. "The question arises how border control forces can deal with this surge. It has been tough on them, many of them feel that they are working 24-25 days per month overtime, even though resources have been sort of redistributed," she said.
https://sputniknews.com/us/201708121056413702-canada-pressure-us-migrants/
The number of migrants trying to flee to Canada from the US in fear of expulsion has spiked dramatically in recent weeks. Radio Sputnik discussed the issue with Dr. Usha George, a professor and director of the Ryerson Centre for Immigration and Settlement at Ryerson University, Canada.
Canadian authorities said that asylum requests have increased threefold since the middle of July. Most of the asylum-seekers are Haitians, while some of them are of Yemeni and Somali descent.
According to the head of the Canadian union representing customs and immigration workers, up to 700 migrants cross the border weekly at the Lacolle crossing point.
"The pressure on the system is quite high," George told Radio Sputnik. "The question arises how border control forces can deal with this surge. It has been tough on them, many of them feel that they are working 24-25 days per month overtime, even though resources have been sort of redistributed," she said.