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Chinese experts condemn biased reports on Lhasa riot by western media

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif](Xinhua)
Updated: 2008-03-24 14:11[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) released a picture on its website showing Chinese Armed Police officers helping medical staff move a wounded person into an ambulance.
The website's caption said that "there is a heavy military presence in Lhasa", neglecting the obvious First Aid and Red Cross signs on the ambulance.
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"I was angered, as a media researcher, by their reporting," Zhang said. German newspaper Berliner Morgenpost posted a picture on its website that depicted police in Lhasa rescuing a young man assaulted by rioters. But the caption said "insurrectionist taken away by police".
U.S.-based Fox TV said in a picture caption on its website that Chinese military personnel dragged some protestors onto a vehicle, when actually the uniformed people were Indian police.
N-TV, headquartered in Germany, used TV footage showing police with captured protestors in a report on the Tibet riots. The footage had been shot in Nepal and the police were Nepalese.
Zhang said that in these cases, newspapers and TV stations obviously chose materials according to their pre-conceived ideas. When they failed to find "proper" materials, they used something else instead.
"They violated the fundamental journalistic principle of 'truth'," she said.
Working at a Tianjin TV station, He Hua said she understood the great visual impact that pictures and TV footage had on readers and audiences.
She said a New York Times story that mentioned the riot in Tibet used a picture of Nepalese police and protesters. This would definitely mislead the public, not to mention reports directly confusing Nepalese and Indian police with Chinese.
"I was ashamed for my western counterparts," she said.
Yang Jing, graduate student in the international communication school of CUC, said she was disappointed by the western media, which she used to appreciate and respect for their objectivity and fairness.
"When some major events happened, I used to check how they reported them and listen to their opinions. However, their good image collapsed in my mind due to this incident," she said.
According to official statistics, at least 18 civilians and one police officer have been confirmed killed in the Lhasa unrest, which also saw 624 injuries. Damage is estimated at more than 244 million yuan (about US$34 million).
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[MikeyDB]

MikeyDB ,

If you are truly searching for the answer to this question Mikey ,then it would be better to ask yourself what Love is not .
One thing is certain though ,when you are ,love is not ; when you are not , Love Is.
So perhaps the question should be ..........who am I .

Sophistry.

Allthough you further the notion that you understand the world and its dynamics, it becomes apparent that you don't. Perhaps your worldview prevents you from acknowledging the fragility of your many and various postulates. if "you're truly searching" for a dialogue with people, as opposed to raining down dogma you'll have to work on your communications skills.

A man who fails to taste feel and hear the zephyr of love has nothing to share.

 

[darkbeaver]

The Role of the CIA: Behind the Dalai Lama's Holy Cloak

By Michael Backman

Global Research, March 23, 2008
www.theage.com - 2007-05-23

Global Research Editor's note

This incisive article by Michael Backman outlines the relationship of the Dalai Lama and his organization to US intelligence.

The Dalai Lama has been on the CIA payroll since the late 1950s. He is an instrument of US intelligence.

An understanding of this longstanding relationship to the CIA is essential, particuarly in the light of recent events. In all likelihood US intelligence was behind the protest movement, organized to occur a few months prior to the Beijing Olympic games.

M. C. 23 March 2008

Rarely do journalists challenge the Dalai Lama.
Partly it is because he is so charming and engaging. Most published accounts of him breeze on as airily as the subject, for whom a good giggle and a quaint parable are substitutes for hard answers. But this is the man who advocates greater autonomy for millions of people who are currently Chinese citizens, presumably with him as head of their government. So, why not hold him accountable as a political figure?
No mere spiritual leader, he was the head of Tibet's government when he went into exile in 1959. It was a state apparatus run by aristocratic, nepotistic monks that collected taxes, jailed and tortured dissenters and engaged in all the usual political intrigues. (The Dalai Lama's own father was almost certainly murdered in 1946, the consequence of a coup plot.)
The government set up in exile in India and, at least until the 1970s, received $US1.7 million a year from the CIA.
The money was to pay for guerilla operations against the Chinese, notwithstanding the Dalai Lama's public stance in support of non-violence, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.
The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA's payroll from the late 1950s until 1974, reportedly receiving $US15,000 a month ($US180,000 a year).
The funds were paid to him personally, but he used all or most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities, principally to fund offices in New York and Geneva, and to lobby internationally.
Details of the government-in-exile's funding today are far from clear. Structurally, it comprises seven departments and several other special offices. There have also been charitable trusts, a publishing company, hotels in India and Nepal, and a handicrafts distribution company in the US and in Australia, all grouped under the government-in-exile's Department of Finance.
The government was involved in running 24 businesses in all, but decided in 2003 that it would withdraw from these because such commercial involvement was not appropriate.
Several years ago, I asked the Dalai Lama's Department of Finance for details of its budget. In response, it claimed then to have annual revenue of about $US22 million, which it spent on various health, education, religious and cultural programs.
The biggest item was for politically related expenditure, at $US7 million. The next biggest was administration, which ran to $US4.5 million. Almost $US2 million was allocated to running the governm

 

[china]

darkbeaver,

THANKS darkbeaver for an excellent post.

 

[china]

MikeyDB ,

if "you're truly searching" for a dialogue with people, as opposed to raining down dogma you'll have to work on your communications skills.

I,m always open to a talk .What is it you don't understand ?

 

[MikeyDB]

No China you're open to unicorns and fairie queens. You have nothing to help me understand anything China. You need the understanding.

 

[china]

No China you're open to unicorns and fairie queens. You have nothing to help me understand anything China. You need the understanding.

I understand , stop hating yourself MDB.

 

[MikeyDB]

China

May you have an interesting life as well.

 

[china]

May you have an interesting life as well.

I am

 

[MikeyDB]

Good maybe someday you'll get in touch with the fact that one of the oldest civilizations on earth has neither heard nor listened to your hollow philosophy. You post articles about events in Tibet and China as though this doesn't have anything to do with your magnificently failed and failing rhetoric. The expectation that any western mind is available to the same language the same symbolic artifice as that which has been ignored by the Chinese and every Asian for centuries is either flight of fancy or disassociation.

Your's is simply "religion" clothed in Rubik's Cube.

 

[EastSideScotian]

Do you shoot people in your household to keep things in order, China?

Oh god I laughed really hard when i read this......That was good thanks

 

[EastSideScotian]

What is love?

Perhaps I can shine some light on Love for you....

Love "apperantly" is best figured out when you find out what love is not....So to help you I am going to use this Idea, and find out what love is not.

Love is not:
A can of Cream Corn
Brand new Ear Muffs
Some Dust under your bed
A flat pie
Apples
A aids inffected Kool Aid pack
A nipple ring
Your new Chair
A low Quality Viking sowrd
A personal transformer that does all your bidding
Ice cream in a box
Milk thats not in a bag
Smelly Gym Shoes
Clean SHOES
Shoes
Bags
Boxes
Foxes
Eggs
Green things
Ham i supose
A rock song
A cure for cancer
A spread for your toast
Apples
Apples
A good way to fix your car
A fuel in wich you can power a cloud car

As you can see love is not many things...Which leads me to beleave love is not anything at all....Perhaps a feeling...But what are feelings? When I get feelings they usally are " man i need to puke", "I feel like punching him in the face" things like that....so how would love communacte with feelings..it doesnt...is it an emotion...sure why not, iam sick of explaining it.

 

[china]

China urges int'l to see true features of Dalai clique

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif](Xinhua)
Updated: 2008-03-26 06:36[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] BEIJING - China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on Tuesday urged the international community to see the true features of the secessionist clique of the Dalai Lama through the recent riots in Lhasa and other ethnic Tibetan areas.
The riots in Lhasa and other areas were organized and planned violent crimes plotted and incited by the Dalai clique, said Qin Gang at a press conference here.
"We hope the international community can see the true features of the Dalai Lama's secessionist clique and make a clear distinction between right and wrong."
"We also hope relevant countries not to give support in any form to the secessionist activities of the Dalai clique," the spokesman said.
He said the riots were aimed at undermining China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, disrupting social stability and jeopardizing the life and property of local people.
In the violence that erupted in Lhasa, capital of the Tibet Autonomous Region, on March 14, rioters injured 623 people including 241 police and armed police and killed 18 others. They also set fire at more than 300 locations, mostly private houses, stores and schools, smashed vehicles and damaged public facilities.
More than 100 countries around the world had extended their support to the Chinese government in handling the unrest according to law, condemned the violence and admitted that Tibet is part of China, according to the Foreign Ministry.
On the appeal of some countries for dialogue between the Chinese government and the Dalai Lama, Qin said the door always remains open for such dialogue if the Dalai Lama really gives up his secessionist position and completely stops secessionist activities.
"We have to listen not only what he says, but also watch what he does," Qin said.
As some countries have invited the Dalai Lama to go for a visit, Qin said the Dalai Lama is not a pure religious person, but an exiled politician who has long been engaged in activities of separating China and disrupting national unity.
It is the hope of China that the countries concerned recognize the true features of the Dalai Lama and do not support his secessionist activities," he said.
On the violent attacks of "Tibet independence" groups against China's diplomatic missions in some countries, Qin said China has made serious representations to relevant countries and asked them to protect the security and dignity of Chinese diplomatic missions in accordance with the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.
The countries concerned have expressed regret and apologized for the attacks, and pledged to strengthen protection of Chinese diplomatic missions and personnel.
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[mrgrumpy]

If I recall earleir posts china was born in Poland, lived for a while in Canada, emigrated to China...instead of haggling over current political tensions, I would be really interested in hearing more of this story; surely there are very few people on earth with this background; let's learn from it before we get to haggling over things governments do ;

china - I am really interested in your life and experiences and I bet most of us are curious , too.

(we can haggle later..)

 

[china]

dali and his monks

Xinhua) Updated: 2008-03-17 06:43

LHASA - Memories of horror were alive again. Rioting that erupted in Lhasa on Friday resembled two previous riots in 1959 and 1989, only in its cruelty and always indisputable links to peace-preaching Dalai Lama.

On March 10th, more than 300 monks from the Zhaibung Monastery ventured into downtown Lhasa. The monks, who were supposedly converted to peace, were invective and aggressive, and flagrantly confronted with the security forces.

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In the Sera Monastery, ten monks held up flags of the so-called Tibetan exile government and shouted "Tibetan independence". In the ensuing days, a few monks chanted independence slogans and challenged officers who were maintaining order. Lime and boiling water were poured over those around them, and stones rained down.
In blatant attempts to create sensation, three monks in the Zhaibung monastery lacerated their bodies with knives and took pictures of one another, photos that were to be used to blame others for the harm they inflicted upon themselves, police said.

Affrays turned violent, and losses were grave. The mob on Friday set off a destruction rampage and spared nothing and nobody along their way. Rioters set fire to buildings, torched dozens of police cars and private vehicles and looted banks, schools and shops. Innocent civilians were stabbed, stoned and scourged. At least 10 died, mostly from burns.

In the shocking degree of cruelty which local Tibetans said they had not seen in their whole lives, "brutal" was an understatement of the true picture, but the word was only reserved for the mob, and not for the policemen.

Throughout the incident, Lhasa police officers exercised great restraint. They remained patient, professional and were instructed not to use force. In humanitarian spirit, they even rescued the malicious monks who attempted sensation through hurting themselves. But such restraint was met with even more malice.

Young officers -- fathers, husbands and brothers -- were stoned, lunged, stabbed and clubbed, like any other innocent victim. Twelve of them were badly injured, two of them critical.

Such hostility was not "non-violence" as Dalai preached, but what the "revered" monk practiced. Religious leaders, local Tibetans and other residents stood out and condemned the riot.

It is obvious that the latest well-planned sabotage in Lhasa was another bloody exercise of Dalai clique's political conspiracy.

Comments on the story (total 48) commentaries (48 ->)[/url] 2008-3-18 01:04 PM[URL="http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=2&tid=597434&extra=page%3D1###"]#1

 

[DurkaDurka]

That's a nice piece of propaganda you posted there China. Written by the same news agency who would like people to think that Tieneman Square slaughter never occurred.

The paragraph below gave me a good laugh, do they actually think people believe this bs?

"Throughout the incident, Lhasa police officers exercised great restraint. They remained patient, professional and were instructed not to use force. In humanitarian spirit, they even rescued the malicious monks who attempted sensation through hurting themselves. But such restraint was met with even more malice."

 

[china]

The paragraph below gave me a good laugh, do they actually think people believe this bs?

I do ,I live in this country and even though I have not bin to Lhasa when the rioting occurred, I have friends who have witnessed some of the brutality .What is BS is the curly hair on your avatar .Your probably as bold as your "piygu".That's Ass, in mandarin.Lol

 

[DurkaDurka]

I do ,I live in this country and even though I have not bin to Lhasa when the rioting occurred, I have friends who have witnessed some of the brutality .What is BS is the curly hair on your avatar .Your probably as bold as your "piygu".That's Ass, in mandarin.Lol

Brutality is quite common in China, isn't it China? It's the currency of the country.

China, why are you surrounded by a bunch of children in your avatar? I have come to the conclusion that you are either

a) A cult leader
b) Run a sweat shop
c) Criminal activities of some kind

 

[china]

DURAKDURAK ,

wrutality is quite common in China, isn't it China? It's the currency of the country.
China, why are you surrounded by a bunch of children in your avatar? I have come to the conclusion that you are either
a) A cult leader
b) Run a sweat shop
c) Criminal activities of some kind __________________

why don,t you come to China and find out .

 

[DurkaDurka]

DURAKDURAK ,



why don,t you come to China and find out .

Not a chance.