As has been proven more than enough times, if Jesus was around today He'd be the biggest lib on earth.
Why liberals are right to hate the Ten Commandments
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Sooooo....what? I don't get it. This is a battle that is going on in the US...it doesn't seem to be going on in Canada at all. Let them fight it out.
As for me, I think most of the commandments are pretty good, I have no problem with them at all. I am, however, for the seperation of church and state.
As for me, I think most of the commandments are pretty good, I have no problem with them at all. I am, however, for the seperation of church and state.
nowhere in our United States consitution does it mention anywhere about separating church and state.
It protects freedom of religion and allows others to worship and believe what they want.
But nowhere in our US consititution does it say we have to keep religion out of government
FYI, nothing can be imposed on the mind and spirit EVER
It protects freedom of religion and allows others to worship and believe what they want.
But nowhere in our US consititution does it say we have to keep religion out of government
FYI, nothing can be imposed on the mind and spirit EVER
OUR United states?
This is Canada. I havent a clue what canada's original governmental documents have to say about separation of church and state but it's clear to anyone with half a brain that the two should be separate.
Sorry I was across the border today and watching American tv when I got back, I get the 2 mixed up in my head sometimes
Should we throw something out of gov. when 85% of the people believe in it?
Should we throw something out of gov. when 85% of the people believe in it?
the two processes, religious belief and government of state don't work together. I'm not saying people should abandon God, but the church and the government should be separate entities. Obviously it's worthwhile each influencing the other, and unrealistic to think anything otherwise is possible.
I'm not fond of tony blair or any other politician but I'd trust them to keep things in order a lot better than the archbishop of canterbury or the pope. Anyway if the rulers of the countries were their respective religious leaders how long do you think it'd be before religious wars broke out everywhere?
I'm not fond of tony blair or any other politician but I'd trust them to keep things in order a lot better than the archbishop of canterbury or the pope. Anyway if the rulers of the countries were their respective religious leaders how long do you think it'd be before religious wars broke out everywhere?
I'm interested to know where you keep getting this 85% number you keep citing. The highest number I can find (through the 2001 American Religious Identification Survey) is 80% Christians, including over 50% Protestant and 24% Roman Catholic. More officially, the CIA World Factbook states that "the U.S. is 78% Christian and 10% no religion, while other religions comprise 12% of the U.S. population. In descending order, the largest identified religious groups are Protestant (52%); Roman Catholic (24%); Mormon (2%); Jewish (1%); and Muslim (1%)[2]."
I ask because the difference between 85% and 78% is more than 21 million believers.
And Evangelicals aren't just a specific denomination of Christians, they include the following:
A. Those who belong to an evangelical demonination of a church;
B. A term that can be "applied to all Christians who affirm a few key doctrines and practical emphases;"
C. Those who classify themselves as within "the self-ascribed label for a coalition that arose during the Second World War."
Thus, there are, by the most liberal of standards, almost 100 million people classified in the US as Evangelicals, or 30%-35% of the 52% of those listed as Protestant.
You think I don't double-check your 'facts'? A for effort in trying to deceive me; F for results, and looking foolish for making up information.
That is where our faith should be West. We do not need the government to share that faith, only respect and allow for it to be lived.
And for your information, it is not OUR Constitution. Have you read it? It very much makes it clear that the United States was not to be a theocracy. Remember the original founders of that country descended from nations in Europe that DID NOT, at the time, have a clear separation of Church and State. The American founding fathers DID NOT want that mindset carried into their new Republic.
Me too. I was talking to someone yesterday about the homeless and the gentleman said I was a communist.
hehehe
[shakes fist and shouts in an elderly voice] you damn commie! get out before i shoots ya!
[shakes fist and shouts in an elderly voice] you damn commie! get out before i shoots ya!
The American founding fathers DID NOT want that mindset carried into their new Republic.
Yes they did. As I have shown on this forum about 50 times, please, PLEASE stop believing the lies of Jerry Falwell and read Professor Mark McGarvie's One Nation Under Law: America's Early Struggle to Separate Church and State for proof.
Yes they did. As I have shown on this forum about 50 times, please, PLEASE stop believing the lies of Jerry Falwell and read Professor Mark McGarvie's One Nation Under Law: America's Early Struggle to Separate Church and State for proof.
One Nation under God
Look at our anthem even: "GOD Keep our Land, glorious and free"
The USA is not a nation that forces a belief on to its people but its a nation that has Christianity at its very core, and the ideology and morals of the nation are molded around that.
Look at our anthem even: "GOD Keep our Land, glorious and free"
The USA is not a nation that forces a belief on to its people but its a nation that has Christianity at its very core, and the ideology and morals of the nation are molded around that.
Wasn’t one of the parabols in the New [FONT="]Testament [/FONT]about Jesus paying his taxes? If we want to push stereotypes about republicans not paying taxes:
Uh huh.. and I suppose their Christian morals explains the guns and the murders???