why i have to pay more for kosher

darkbeaver

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Just because you don't understand what I said doesn't make it bad economics OR bizarre math krakra.

Companies can run according to different profit principles. They can seek out a high profit per item, or they can seek out high profit through volume. Increasing volume of items sold by adding an extra 2% to your customer base can help to offset and even recover the costs a company accrues in order to obtain that extra 2%.

Karrie, where in that does the consumer get the break?
 

gerryh

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They get the break when a manufacturer decides to lower the price or profit margin on a unit in order to sell a higher volume.

Actually Karrie, it's when the retailer decides to lower the price or profit margin.
 

karrie

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Actually Karrie, it's when the retailer decides to lower the price or profit margin.

Thank you for the correction... but we're both right, as usual (considering the retailers margins are linked to what they pay the manufacturer). Care for a drink while we bask in our intelligence? I'm having tea tonight, of all things.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Jeez, doesn't anyone know how to use Google? This thread is full of misconceptions about what kosher means and what it costs, and a little elementary research would have resolved it all. Try this for instance. There's no blessing by a rabbi required, no licking of products by rabbis, the added cost is pretty minimal, it doesn't generate kickbacks to Israeli or zionist organizations... well, read it yourself, it's not very long.
 

karrie

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I've been to that site Dex. But, if I were on krakra's side of the issue, I'd dismiss any source written by a rabbi, so I didn't bother posting it. I couldn't find any impartial sources in a quick search, and frankly, didn't care to dig for his sake. lol.
 

Dexter Sinister

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.. if I were on krakra's side of the issue, I'd dismiss any source written by a rabbi...
Yeah, I know what you mean, but I figured, who's in a better position to know than a rabbi? Or more generally, who's in a better position to know something than the people to whom it's most important? I googled for "kosher food cost," that was the second of a quarter of a million hits, and the most concise one of the dozen or so I looked at. Here's a longer one that says essentially the same thing.
 

karrie

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Yeah, I know what you mean, but I figured, who's in a better position to know than a rabbi? Or more generally, who's in a better position to know something than the people to whom it's most important?

Yes, but to someone who doesn't agree with a position, they're also the people most likely to lie to justify themselves. :smile: I learned all I currently know from those two sites Dex. And I take it at face value... they were extremely informative.
 

krakra

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Hi karrie,,,
I dont know what to say . You are saying that the manufacturer will lower his benefit, another one is saying the retailer will lower his benefits , like if you have to find someone who will lower his benefits other than the consumer . Ok i will agree with you and say that someone in the manufacturing and selling chain will lower his benefits.
why he has to lower his benefits to give it to an organization other than the canadian authorities.
someone elese is saying that the benefit is minime , even 1 cent is not minime in the eyes of a canadian poor man.
If there is a valable reason for koshering , then it has to be said clearly to everyone in public media ,at least people will know it ,may they will agree to give more from their pocket.
 

karrie

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If there is a valable reason for koshering , then it has to be said clearly to everyone in public media ,at least people will know it ,may they will agree to give more from their pocket.

We've explained to you over and over again the valuable reasoning behind kosher certification.

And I didn't say anything about manufacturers or retailers lowering their benefit. I said that it's one of the cases where they may be willing to lower their profit margins to increase sales. That easily translates into increased benefit.

I know I'm beating my head against a wall, but there are umpteen other issues where manufacturers or retailers will take on a certification (such as dolphin free, organic, nut free, fair trade, against animal testing... the list goes on and on) which is often reviewed by a certifying body outside the government, in order to reach a wider market.

It's hit the point where either you're not listening, you don't care to actually discuss it, or you've just got an ax to grind with kosher certification in particular. I've hit the end of this naive journey with you.
 

Pangloss

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Krakra:

I deeply echo Karrie's post. Really, counter the arguments with something new, or just quit repeating yourself.

Your obstinateness is perverse and frustrating. I would love to meet you, and look you in the eyes when you claim this isn't about anti-semitism.

Pangloss
 

karrie

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Did the pickle smell kinda earthy? I'm pretty sure that part of the video was real. . .

Pangloss

Ya know what Pangloss.... I'm getting REALLY sick of reading this. And for whatever bizarre computer reason, everytime I click on the 'last posts' button, THIS is the post it takes me to. What the hell man!? What did you do that the computer has decided I must read this over and over and over again everytime? Did you bribe it? Did you whisper binary nothings in its ear? Geez!
 

jimshort19

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Krakra, the horse is dead already. Time to buy a new one. Let's say, in theory, that you have two ideas, one is maybe about kosher food and the other is about, say, kosher food. Have I got that right? Where are you from anyway? How old are you? When was the last time you got laid?
 

krakra

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Karrie , thanks , for discussing rationaly (i dont give a **** for the borned others)
I think that i could not clarify enough what i wanted to say , english is not my langage and i have big difficulties to explain exactly what i want to say.
so ,give me the privilege to close this "naive" thread .
final word: when anyone decide to open his mind let me know that by e-mail on :
djaunase@hotmail.com
bye .
 

jimshort19

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Well, Karrie and Pangloss have finally killed this thread, brow-beaten and humiliated a poor immigrant, and ruined Canada's reputation for hospitality. It was a sorry spectacle.

I posted the last word you know.
 

krakra

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Buggy :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I am leaving because i am assured that i am talking to a poor retarded low level people without any education ,happy to be so blind.
:cheers:
 

TenPenny

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Krakra, I don't know why you're so upset. I'm still waiting for you to prove that the SELLING PRICE of a kosher item is any different from that of an identical, non-kosher item.

You have commented on the COSTS of manufacturing, but you have not actually adressed your own point. You have not provided any proof that you pay EXTRA for kosher items.

In case you want to cast aspersions, don't bother. I'm no supporter of Israel, or organized religion. You don't need to brand me as stupid, ignorant, or clueless, either. Stick to the point, and provide us with some facts. Don't muddy the water with insults.