Way to go again Pangloss. Lefty.
Vegetarian.
West coast person.
It's time for a food fight. Gentlemen, lick your missiles!
Vegetarian.
West coast person.
It's time for a food fight. Gentlemen, lick your missiles!
why i have to pay more for kosher
- Thread starter krakra
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Go ahead:
I will unleash such a fury of self-righteous white guilt lectures you will curl up into a defenseless fetal ball, and beg to slip into a coma.
Then I will don my organic, fair trade hemp cape of equitable power relationships, and continue to guilt trip the wicked into submission. And then eat soy nuts.
Feeling morally superior,
Pangloss
I will unleash such a fury of self-righteous white guilt lectures you will curl up into a defenseless fetal ball, and beg to slip into a coma.
Then I will don my organic, fair trade hemp cape of equitable power relationships, and continue to guilt trip the wicked into submission. And then eat soy nuts.
Feeling morally superior,
Pangloss
krakra, the organisms! Don't join the organisms!
But Pangloss no! Not the organic, fair trade hemp cape of equitable power relationships! - with soy beans.
I'm melting! Melting into the imperialist corporate sewer of oligarchic global capitalism! - with boiling oil.
But Pangloss no! Not the organic, fair trade hemp cape of equitable power relationships! - with soy beans.
I'm melting! Melting into the imperialist corporate sewer of oligarchic global capitalism! - with boiling oil.
Krakra
I laugh at your stubborn refusal to acknowledge how badly you have handled yourself throughout this thread. Your ham-handed attempts at subterranean antisemitism are pure comedy gold.
We have all been very nice, and played along. Buy you have made an object of ridicule of yourself - we are here only as spectators, and highly entertained ones.
If you actually had the huevos to write what you mean, we'd (I'm sure I am writing for more than myself here) all have a lot more respect for you.
In your writing, you come across as some sort of very stubborn and close-minded adolescent, and the temptation to play with that is too great to resist.
Really, for this level of entertainment, you ought to provide popcorn.
Pangloss
I laugh at your stubborn refusal to acknowledge how badly you have handled yourself throughout this thread. Your ham-handed attempts at subterranean antisemitism are pure comedy gold.
We have all been very nice, and played along. Buy you have made an object of ridicule of yourself - we are here only as spectators, and highly entertained ones.
If you actually had the huevos to write what you mean, we'd (I'm sure I am writing for more than myself here) all have a lot more respect for you.
In your writing, you come across as some sort of very stubborn and close-minded adolescent, and the temptation to play with that is too great to resist.
Really, for this level of entertainment, you ought to provide popcorn.
Pangloss
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finally the arm is here (antisemitism).
Now i am sur to whom i am talking , a very low level reasoning minds .
I am talking of the no reason of spending money to unknown organisms and i am treated of antisemitism.
lester ,say hi to your girlfriend whith whom you have (organism)
:wave::sign10:.
facts ,names ,numbers are there , and it is not a band of ignorants that will hide them.
Now i am sur to whom i am talking , a very low level reasoning minds .
I am talking of the no reason of spending money to unknown organisms and i am treated of antisemitism.
lester ,say hi to your girlfriend whith whom you have (organism)
:wave::sign10:.facts ,names ,numbers are there , and it is not a band of ignorants that will hide them.
The word is organization krakra, not organism. Organism means a living thing, like a virus or a fly or a person. Organization is a collected body of people banding together for some purpose.
I personally believe you may hold this view of frustration with paying for kosher without being anti-semitic, but you have yet to prove, other than throwing a couple numbers out with no substantiation, that it costs more to consumers in the end than say, advertising does.
I find advertising to be a cost I am not willing to pay for. The companies spend tons of money on it, without asking me, without needing to advertise, and the end cost is passed along to the consumer. I don't benefit from them advertising and brain washing my children. I don't benefit from their glossy packaging. So, because that's the way I feel, I buy largely 'no name' and bulk foods. I'm just not willing to pay the extra for 'Coke', or 'Triscuits' or 'Cheerios' when I can get 'Cola', 'Wheat Crispies', or 'Toasted O's' for half the price.
The kosher issue is no different.
I personally believe you may hold this view of frustration with paying for kosher without being anti-semitic, but you have yet to prove, other than throwing a couple numbers out with no substantiation, that it costs more to consumers in the end than say, advertising does.
I find advertising to be a cost I am not willing to pay for. The companies spend tons of money on it, without asking me, without needing to advertise, and the end cost is passed along to the consumer. I don't benefit from them advertising and brain washing my children. I don't benefit from their glossy packaging. So, because that's the way I feel, I buy largely 'no name' and bulk foods. I'm just not willing to pay the extra for 'Coke', or 'Triscuits' or 'Cheerios' when I can get 'Cola', 'Wheat Crispies', or 'Toasted O's' for half the price.
The kosher issue is no different.
Karrie, "I find advertising to be a cost I am not willing to pay for." "I'm just not willing to pay the extra for 'Coke', or 'Triscuits' or 'Cheerios' when I can get 'Cola', 'Wheat Crispies', or 'Toasted O's' for half the price."
But what if they were the same price? And what if they were marked as Jew food?
On the one hand you say that you won't pay for advertising because you believe that it drives up your costs. That's way more onerous than avoiding Jew-blessed food. Then you conclude that you just buy the cheapest products. That is expedient and objective. But brand names, including President's Choice, are in every shopping cart you fill, and the advertising budget of the no-name store is one of the largest among retailers in the country.
If this cad is not racist, then she's in training. And some people, like Pangloss, just don't go for racism, and neither do I. So while the racists rave, on a good day, the silent majority will offer only disapproval. This social process is called Canadian Conditioning, if you will. And if a innocent and naive girl get's blindsided she will recover. This is not an excuse for wreckless social censureship, but it's the way things are in reality space in Canada.
But what if they were the same price? And what if they were marked as Jew food?
On the one hand you say that you won't pay for advertising because you believe that it drives up your costs. That's way more onerous than avoiding Jew-blessed food. Then you conclude that you just buy the cheapest products. That is expedient and objective. But brand names, including President's Choice, are in every shopping cart you fill, and the advertising budget of the no-name store is one of the largest among retailers in the country.
If this cad is not racist, then she's in training. And some people, like Pangloss, just don't go for racism, and neither do I. So while the racists rave, on a good day, the silent majority will offer only disapproval. This social process is called Canadian Conditioning, if you will. And if a innocent and naive girl get's blindsided she will recover. This is not an excuse for wreckless social censureship, but it's the way things are in reality space in Canada.
I was pretty clear that I'm not willing to pay MORE for a heavily advertised product. Because if it's heavily advertised, and you're paying more, that's often why. If it's the same cost, fine. Confusing? I don't see why.
krakra's assertion (though pointed out to be flawed plenty in this thread), is that it costs more for food to be kosher. It's the same darn issue as krakra presents it. I'm not about to try to argue what you and gerryh and pangloss are presenting, because it's as baseless IMO as krakra's assertions. I have no reason, no foundation, for arguing antisemitism with this person until they prove otherwise.
What facts and what numbers? You've demonstrated the cost of certifying something Kosher, but have not demonstrated the cost passed on to the consumer. There are many certifications that cost large amounts of money. Research HAACP. Kosher certification is just another protocol that customers demand from their supply chains.
The reality, as has been explained to you multiple times, is that the onus is on you to make a choice as a consumer. Want to avoid Kosher products? Then do it. Buy from small farm markets, which I'm sure you can find in Montreal. Or make your own preserves. Or use baking soda and vinegar to wash your dishes. If you research it enough, you'll find that you can avoid Koshered products. The question is, do you really care that much.
Krakra, I don't buy your argument -you say you go to MAXI in Montreal and can find no non-koshered foods? I call bullsh*t. I don't think you will be able to rally many around your cause( whatever that may be). Your arguments have gone beyond ridiculous into the absurd. What your really looking for is a sympathizer, someone to help you foster your hate.
you may find that in the dictionary between sh*t and syphhilis but you won't find it here.
you may find that in the dictionary between sh*t and syphhilis but you won't find it here.
karrie, "I have no reason, no foundation, for arguing antisemitism with this person until they prove otherwise."
If you are looking for someone to prove that they are anti-semetic, while we are satisfied with a lack of anti-semetic rational when they single out the Jews for blame for food prices.
If it looks like a pig, walks like a pig and quacks like a pig, it's not kosher. The best that I can say with respect to the merit of this thread is that the author is not a conspiracy theorist. Leave her alone with some of the people on this forum and she'll be convinced that the Jews are poisoning her tin foil.
If you are looking for someone to prove that they are anti-semetic, while we are satisfied with a lack of anti-semetic rational when they single out the Jews for blame for food prices.
If it looks like a pig, walks like a pig and quacks like a pig, it's not kosher. The best that I can say with respect to the merit of this thread is that the author is not a conspiracy theorist. Leave her alone with some of the people on this forum and she'll be convinced that the Jews are poisoning her tin foil.