Why Feminism Has Become Toxic
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Is it still that bad in the US? In Scarborough, I've been the only white man in a restaurant on some occasions, and never did I feel ill at ease. Granted, knowing the local language helped too I suppose.
"You're making connections where none exist."
That could either be the hallmark of my schizophrenia...connecting random dots incorrectly.
OR/
I could be on to something.
That could either be the hallmark of my schizophrenia...connecting random dots incorrectly.
OR/
I could be on to something.
The power women who stayed home had was in raising their kids. If male children were taught to be gentlemanly toward women it would solve the problems that women complain about. But then, the female children raised by their mothers also learned to behave like ladies in a way that earned respect.
Boys who try being 'gentlemanly' toward women these days gets shot down as condescending and the girls act and dress like hookers in training.
that's funny as hell.
My grandmother got a university degree in 1922, and ended up raising three sons alone after her two husbands died. My mother got a bachelor's degree in geology in the 1940s. she stayed at home to raise a family, but went back to work when the youngest was in school. They were real feminists.
one famous time in the mid 1960s there was an industrial plant that was in the midst of a unionization drive. it was a bitter fight. the guy who lived a few houses up the street was in management at the plant. a car started sitting outside his house, on the street, it was a couple of union thugs trying to intimidate him. my mother always felt that what happens at work stays at work, and the woman in the house was her friend, and was nervous about these guys sitting on the street.
So my mother took the old .22 off the wall, and walked up to the car in broad daylight. Holding the rifle casually, she knocked on the window of the car. When the two guys inside rolled down the window, my mother said, 'can I help you, or are you going to fk off and never come back?'. Oddly enough, the guys left, and did not return.
And yes, it may have been the 60s, but when the situation called for it, she used that word.
She was what I call a 'real' feminist.
I work a very early morning shift, so I've pretty much been a stay-at-home Dad to my girls since they were born.
At the last Parent/Teacher interview, the teacher said, "The school is trying to figure out how to clone your daughters"
Guess I'm doing okay so far!
At the last Parent/Teacher interview, the teacher said, "The school is trying to figure out how to clone your daughters"
Guess I'm doing okay so far!
Toxic, didn't hear about that one, but I can say power to woman. They've come a long way, but still have a long road ahead. We have woman reporting to men whom are much more qualified, but it is changing, thanks probably to feminism on some level. Two people get up at 6am, shower and go to work, they should have the same opportunities, and their growth should be based on merit, qualification and skills.
Can't see how we going to fix sexism with opposing sexism... it's like fixing racism with opposing racism.. if only two wrongs made a right, this world would've been saved by now.
I am Canadian.
There is a mall where I used to shop regularly until it became completely occupied by East Indians. The last couple I times I went there I was glared at and treated rudely.
My daughter-in-law who is half Indian went there to buy traditional Indian clothing and they wouldn't even serve her, told her as soon as she went in that they wouldn't have anything that would suit her. The reason she went there was for the display of traditional styles that she saw there. And she looks quite 'Indian'!
I can understand that things are different in Scarborough. Probably because of the large number of varied ethnic groups. My son lives in Toronto and says he is often the only white man in a location but it doesn't bother him.
I'm married and have a son you fk'n ignorant. But thanks for your small minded quip, it only proves my point about this subject and the problems in these forums from people like you who don't know how to formulate even a mediocre thought process.
If real Feminism was truly about Equality for all humans then why is it called "Feminism?"
Feminism was created in the era of Political Correctness and most arguments towards changing terms that have "Man" or "Men" in them, usually come from the Feminism side.
Those terms should be more inclusive and thus, should be renamed to reflect that inclusion.... Yet Feminism by its very name is hypocrisy.
Yes back when Feminism was coined and defined in the 1800's it meant something different than what people view it as today.... But as mentioned before, things get hijacked and twisted into something else.
A perfect example of this is the Swastika. People today attribute the Swastika as a German Nazi / Neo-Nazi symbol, related to racism, genocide and extreme oppression (among other things) yet originally it was a religious symbol of many, dating to around 5000 years before Hitler screwed everything up.... Hell he even killed off the moustache.
Perfect examples of how extremists can hijack something and ruin it for everyone else.
Feminism? Right, I guess no one would want what men have had for millennia. Conway has completely misinterpreted feminism; so badly in fact that it is no doubt intentional.
Feminism's core values and goals are entirely laudable, in my not very humble opinion, but like any major social movement it has a lunatic fringe too, which seems to get a disproportionate share of the media attention. And then the lunatic fringe on the other side rears its ugly head in reaction and the conversation turns stupid. Thoughtful moderation, clear and critical thinking, mutual respect, that's the way forward.
Women have at this point reached equality. From now going forward, my opinion is that any more demands from feminist by the power of protest will be met with a equal counter reaction of contempt by men.
And each protest will only help grow animosity between the sexes.
I certainly am considering using my vote power to choose a candidate that is the less pro feminist as possible.
Men never did anything to women. If you have a fight to pick it's with nature. We naturally evolved the way we did out of the basic need to be as productive as possible at reproducing, and somehow that ended up with females looking after that very important aspect while men had to deal with the other tasks.
And each protest will only help grow animosity between the sexes.
I certainly am considering using my vote power to choose a candidate that is the less pro feminist as possible.
Men never did anything to women. If you have a fight to pick it's with nature. We naturally evolved the way we did out of the basic need to be as productive as possible at reproducing, and somehow that ended up with females looking after that very important aspect while men had to deal with the other tasks.
I know it seems a bit taboo to mention this, but the argument towards female equality always seems to go back to how great men have had it for centuries and how men have oppressed women for so long.
Some argue that it's payback time and that all men owe them something despite most of their examples existing far in the past by generations long ago, or specifically, has had nothing to do with their own direct lives and were things they didn't suffer. They're part of the gender and because of that, they're owed compensation like being hired over a man due to filling a male/female quota despite the male possibly being more qualified for the job.
Then you have the argument that they aren't getting paid as much as their male counterparts... But how true is that really? Are they actually good at their job? Do they do their job as good as the next person? Do they put in the same hours? How reliable are they and how many sick days do they take off??
This of course applies to men as well.... If this guy is just putting in what he needs to for his job and doesn't actually strive to help out more vs. the lady over there who does over time and produces better work, then if I was the employer, she would get the raise over the other guy.... But if it was the other way around and the guy was doing the better job, he'd get the raise. But then if she starts b*tching and complaining about her not getting the raise because she's female, we can easily see what kind of slippery slope that turns out to be.
I get pressured to give it to her instead so I don't come out as discriminating against females, the guy who was doing the better job gets p*ssed off that his efforts went unnoticed while the slacker got a raise due to playing the gender card, and then they leave to work somewhere else that would better recognise their work, and I'm stuck paying more for someone who does a sh*tier job.
All these centuries that have gone by about how men have had it good while women were oppressed..... If men and women were really equal, Then why did they let themselves be so oppressed? Why didn't it go the other way? Why didn't women oppress men early on?
All things being equal, history could have gone the other way, but it didn't. Was it because men are stronger and women are weaker? I doubt it because even in the Viking era, women fought along side men. Men used strength and if the woman lacked strength they had their speed and agility.
Regardless the past is the past and the men today who try to treat everyone equal don't deserve punishment or inequality simply because others in the past did wrong things.
That's like me going to jail for a crime my great grandfather did.
Equality exists... It just needs to be properly enforced. For those who discriminate they should be properly punished. Continual fighting and villainizing men to get more out of the situation is just BS.