Why Britain, like Iceland, will thrive outside the EU

Blackleaf

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I didn't realise you needed trade deals to trade.


But Britain has just signed a £15 billion trade deal with South Korea so, once again, you are wrong.
 

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The Europeans will not be in the mood to be nice to you, any time soon.

The EU needs Britain more than Britain needs the EU when it comes to trade. Britain has a trade deficit with the EU. They may not be in the mood to be nice to us but it'd be they who suffer the most.

Of course, such a scenario would go something like this:

Germany: "Okay, Britain. I'm not selling you any of my cars anymore."

France: "And I'm not selling you any of my cheeses."

Italy: "And, for that matter, I'm not selling you any of my wine."

Britain: "Okay, then."
 

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The EU needs Britain more than Britain needs the EU when it comes to trade. Britain has a trade deficit with the EU. They may not be in the mood to be nice to us but it'd be they who suffer the most.
Of course, such a scenario would go something like this:
Germany: "Okay, Britain. I'm not selling you any of my cars anymore."
France: "And I'm not selling you any of my cheeses."
Italy: "And, for that matter, I'm not selling you any of my wine."
Britain: "Okay, then."
They are not now nor will they be in the mood for kowtowing to Britain in any way.

No deal Brexit and really punative tariffs await you.
 

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It's quite simple: Britain has a trade deficit with the EU.

If the EU suddenly decided to stop trading with Brexit Britain as a "punishment" to Britain it'd only be punishing itself: it would lose more money than Britain would, and Britain would likely just get more cars, cheeses and wines from elsewhere.
 

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In more simple terms for you: the EU is the shopkeeper (or store owner, as you say) and Britain is the customer.

The EU stopping trading with Britain is like a shopkeeper telling a customer "I don't want you to buy anything from my shop."

So the shopkeeper loses out financially and the customer just goes to another shop.
 

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In more simple terms for you: the EU is the shopkeeper (or store owner, as you say) and Britain is the customer.
The EU stopping trading with Britain is like a shopkeeper telling a customer "I don't want you to buy anything from my shop."
So the shopkeeper loses out financially and the customer just goes to another shop.
They don't like you.
 

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Yeah, well ....

Boris doesn't stand a chance. Why would anyone open up negotiations with a leader who has a one seat majority?

You're just starting all over with someone fresh, two weeks later.

BORIS BOOST Boris Johnson’s Tories get 17-point poll surge – putting him on track for mega Commons majority

Natasha Clark
22 Aug 2019
The Sun

BORIS Johnson's Tories have got a 17-point surge in the polls, putting him on track for a Commons majority.

Fresh polling for KantarTNS put them on 42 per cent - soaring ahead of Labour on just 28 per cent.


Boris's Tory Party have been soaring ahead in the polls since he was elected Credit: EPA

The Lib Dems are on 15 per cent too, the survey showed, despite the election of new Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson.

The latest poll shows Boris soaring ahead of all the competition compared to the firm's last poll, done in May when Theresa May was still in power.

No10 will be pleased with the results, thinking it shows they have the chance to win a snap election if they are forced into one in the coming months.

If the poll numbers were to be repeated in a general election, it could give Boris a 192 seat majority.

The poll showed the Brexit Party down on just five per cent, but the pollsters didn't provide them as an option when surveying the public.

That means their support is likely to be understated, and they would probably pick up more votes in an election.

Other polls have put the Brexit Party on around 14 per cent lately.

Since Boris got elected he's seen a significant "bounce" in most polls - and picked up votes from the Brexit Party and Labour.

But Downing Street will still be reluctant to call another election in case they lost seats like after Mrs May's disastrous 2017 poll.

Boris has said repeatedly he doesn't want to see another general election.

Yet, his summer spending splurges have raised eyebrows that he could be getting ready for one.

If BoJo loses a vote of no confidence when Parliament comes back after the summer recess, he has 14 days to get the support of the House back before an election is automatically called.

Ministers say that Jeremy Corbyn doesn't have the numbers to bring down the Government - or force through himself as PM in a government of national unity.

He'll gather opposition MPs together next week for a No Deal summit.

And he's invited several Tories including Dominic Grieve and Sir Oliver Letwin too - though it's unclear if they will go.

The news comes as another poll showed that voters are against Remainer parties banding together to form electoral pacts.

A BMG Research survey for the Electoral Reform Society found 41 per cent of the public want all political parties to stand in all areas - even if this means there’s a lower chance of electing a pro-Remain MP.

Only three-tenths of voters were in favour of parties tactically working together.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9774799/boris-johnson-conservatives-poll-surge/
 

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BORIS BOOST Boris Johnson’s Tories get 17-point poll surge – putting him on track for mega Commons majority
Natasha Clark
22 Aug 2019
The Sun
BORIS Johnson's Tories have got a 17-point surge in the polls, putting him on track for a Commons majority.
Fresh polling for KantarTNS put them on 42 per cent - soaring ahead of Labour on just 28 per cent.

Boris's Tory Party have been soaring ahead in the polls since he was elected Credit: EPA
The Lib Dems are on 15 per cent too, the survey showed, despite the election of new Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson.
The latest poll shows Boris soaring ahead of all the competition compared to the firm's last poll, done in May when Theresa May was still in power.
No10 will be pleased with the results, thinking it shows they have the chance to win a snap election if they are forced into one in the coming months.
If the poll numbers were to be repeated in a general election, it could give Boris a 192 seat majority.
The poll showed the Brexit Party down on just five per cent, but the pollsters didn't provide them as an option when surveying the public.
That means their support is likely to be understated, and they would probably pick up more votes in an election.
Other polls have put the Brexit Party on around 14 per cent lately.
Since Boris got elected he's seen a significant "bounce" in most polls - and picked up votes from the Brexit Party and Labour.
But Downing Street will still be reluctant to call another election in case they lost seats like after Mrs May's disastrous 2017 poll.
Boris has said repeatedly he doesn't want to see another general election.
Yet, his summer spending splurges have raised eyebrows that he could be getting ready for one.
If BoJo loses a vote of no confidence when Parliament comes back after the summer recess, he has 14 days to get the support of the House back before an election is automatically called.
Ministers say that Jeremy Corbyn doesn't have the numbers to bring down the Government - or force through himself as PM in a government of national unity.
He'll gather opposition MPs together next week for a No Deal summit.
And he's invited several Tories including Dominic Grieve and Sir Oliver Letwin too - though it's unclear if they will go.
The news comes as another poll showed that voters are against Remainer parties banding together to form electoral pacts.
A BMG Research survey for the Electoral Reform Society found 41 per cent of the public want all political parties to stand in all areas - even if this means there’s a lower chance of electing a pro-Remain MP.
Only three-tenths of voters were in favour of parties tactically working together.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9774799/boris-johnson-conservatives-poll-surge/
If the future is so tickey-boo rosy, call a snap election and get a solid mandate to negotiate Brexit.