Well, considering the proven impact of children living their lives in foster care, the unproven possibilities of being adopted by a gay couple seem like a worthwhile thing to try out.
Why are you against Gay marriage?
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Well, considering the proven impact of children living their lives in foster care, the unproven possibilities of being adopted by a gay couple seem like a worthwhile thing to try out.
Karrie, then adopt them out. But don't think if this trend takes hold it's all hunky-dory, puddin' and molasses. We have to be prepared for unseen consequences. Even Pollyanna on her better days would likely stop before she leaped on this one.
unseen consequences? do you mean unforeseen?
There are unforeseen consequences to all adoptions. No one can predict what will happen when an INDIVIDUAL child, is placed in a family composed of INDIVIDUALS. Gayness or lack of is one of a thousand issues involved.
which is worse, a child placed into the care of a couple of alcholics who managed to hide it for a while or a child placed into the care of a gay couple who love each other very much and teach the child love and respect?
There are unforeseen consequences to all adoptions. No one can predict what will happen when an INDIVIDUAL child, is placed in a family composed of INDIVIDUALS. Gayness or lack of is one of a thousand issues involved.
which is worse, a child placed into the care of a couple of alcholics who managed to hide it for a while or a child placed into the care of a gay couple who love each other very much and teach the child love and respect?
Herman, yr gettin' better. Indeed, if we're able to focus clearly on individual criteria we should be able to make some judgments. Down the road. We already know what to expect in children when their household is run by an alcoholic. Been studied to death. But do we know as much about same sex led households and the children raised in them? We'll find out. You know...down the road.
I stand corrected. Those of us, a more proper use of words. Thanks.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
You speak so much more elaquantly than I do now let me borror your words.........take your post and turnit around onto the churches that FORCE thier beliefs on non- christians.
zzarchov is correct that it is human nature to try and make each other behave the way we want them to, and fair enough too. If i were gay and wanted to get married though, i'd probably stand under the viewpoint of "if this church won't marry me, i'll find one that will, or consider myself married under my own terms, and get a registry to do it".
And that makes my post incorrect how?
I state quite bluntly that you can't take the moral high ground if you are using the same playbook. You can't say its wrong for the Christians to force Non-Christians to adopt their belief, then turn around and say it is ok for non-Christians to force Christians to adopt their belief system. That makes you a hypocrite.
If you think its ok to force others to think as you do, then admit it. Admit your only problem with what the Christian church has historically done is that you are on the wrong end of it.
But if you think the whole concept of forcing others to adopt a belief they don't hold is wrong, then you have to acknowledge that even if people hold a belief you truly despise, that they have a right to hold it.
Regardless of what could happen down the road, this is no reason to interject fear and distrust. I'm not going to bother bringing up what could happen down the road in heterosexual famillies, we all know there are possibilities, just as there are possibilities with homosexuals. You can't judge someone on what they might do, only on what they have done. Certainly negative discourse isn't helpful. What kind of detrimental effect could come from kids hearing blatant hate or misplaced suspicion targeted towards their loving parents?
If I were gay I would want my human rights period. If its legal for 2 people to get married who am I to judge the genders. If two people want to adoptb as long as the childs BEST interests are put into play who am I to judge gender?
If a church doesnt morally believe in homosexuality why would I want that church to marry me? and if straights can have legal rights as a cival union why cant gays?
Not so eloquantly put as yall but it my opinion........Have fun with it.
this all follows neatly with the discussion on forcing our beliefs on others. If gays were trying to force the church to marry them, that'd be forcing a beleif. but asking for a civil ceremony or having legal recognition of a religious ceremony performed by a more liberal church, no problem, it's silly to even think about why it might be wrong, it isnt.
OBVIOUSLY you dont pay attention! I never claimed NOT to be a hypocrite in fact I admit it every chance I get! ALSO I have written scores of times about my experiences with churches that makes me bigotted about christianity! Im not some sanctimonious person Im a person with experience of christians and my experience is that its their way or your going to hell.
In Canada the province of Ontario recognises gay civil uions as well as three US states. The others I am not sure of. Gays can get married here.
What's funny about that? I have an invitation sitting on my counter right now to attend a wedding. A formal ceremony, with almost all of the family participating. It pains me that I can't go show my support to my cousin.
are u laughing at the idea? it's quite a common thing for gay couples to be recognised in a civil service. i think it's true in canada but i know it's true in the UK
And your view is that if it isn't your way it should be under penalty of law? That seems worse.
And where did I say that? Your very good at putting words in my mouth. Im flattered for all the attention
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"Why are you against Gay marriage? "
Because I'm not very bright, I am ignorant, I have to have at least SOME say over someone else's life, I am bigotted, I am hateful, I am frightened of them, I am self-righteous, it's the requirements of the job I was given by an organization that has the same attributes I'm stating as mine, I am just plain mean, I am better than they are, etc.
Pick 1 or more reasons.
"Why are you against Gay marriage? "
Because I'm not very bright, I am ignorant, I have to have at least SOME say over someone else's life, I am bigotted, I am hateful, I am frightened of them, I am self-righteous, it's the requirements of the job I was given by an organization that has the same attributes I'm stating as mine, I am just plain mean, I am better than they are, etc.
Pick 1 or more reasons.