Why are tea baggers white?

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Teabaggers are overwhelmingly white; there are very few blacks or Hispanics in the movement. Also, I remember seeing a poll that said that 4% of teabaggers are Democrats, 70% are Republicans.

It is essentially the far right Republican base, which is mad because after 12 years in power (where the far right said jump, and Republican Congress and President Bush jumped), it finds itself out of power.
So why is that 4% (Democrat) joining in with the teabaggers?
 

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Tell me any party where blacks are in a majority? They are as diverse as anyone else, they are not all liberals.

Blacks are a substantial presence in the Democratic Party. They are very rare in the Republican Party and in the Tea Party. In the Republican Party, whenever a black achieves the position of prominence, the party quickly tries to take down the black politician, as they are doing with RNC leader Steele.

Racism and homophobia are a big part of the Tea Party movement. They have to be, since the Republican base is mostly racist and homophobic.
 

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Blacks are a substantial presence in the Democratic Party. They are very rare in the Republican Party and in the Tea Party. In the Republican Party, whenever a black achieves the position of prominence, the party quickly tries to take down the black politician, as they are doing with RNC leader Steele.

Racism and homophobia are a big part of the Tea Party movement. They have to be, since the Republican base is mostly racist and homophobic.



"You also might want to familiarize yourself with the history of the Democratic and Republican parties, and see which party has stood up longer for the rights of people of color. Do you know that Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution – abolishing slavery, granting citizenship rights to newly freed slaves, and guaranteeing the right to vote (at least on paper) to blacks, respectively? Do you know that most of the politicians who stood for segregation were Southern Democrats? Do you know that the Ku Klux Klan was founded by Democrats, one of whose goals was to stop the spread of the Republican Party? Do you know that, as a percentage of the party, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
Do you know that inner-city parents want vouchers – the right to determine where their children go to school? Do you know most Democrats, including Barack Obama, oppose this? Republicans, for the most part, support vouchers. Where vouchers have been tried, kids appear to perform better, with higher parental satisfaction. You tell me, how many things are more important than a child's education?
Do you know that 36 percent of babies aborted are black, while blacks make up 17 percent of live births? Do you know that polls show blacks are more pro-life than are whites? Yet the Democratic Party – to which over 90 percent of blacks belong – is the party of Roe v. Wade, requiring states to legalize abortion on demand. Do you know that Margaret Sanger, the founder of the organization that became Planned Parenthood, believed that poor blacks were inferior and that aborting their babies made our society better? Look it up.
Do you know that blacks stand to benefit more than whites through Social Security privatization, a position opposed by Obama but supported by McCain? Are you even familiar with the issue and what a powerful income-generating vehicle it would be for blacks? If not, take a look at the research done by the libertarian think tank Cato Institute and the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation.
Porous borders enable illegal aliens to enter our country and threaten the jobs and lower the wages of Americans, many of whom are unskilled people of color. Which party is more determined to deal with this – Republicans or Democrats? Obama called the foes of the House anti-illegal immigration bill "ugly and racist." I did not support the bill, but vehemently object to characterizing those who did as "ugly and racist."
You speak of policies that have "proven not to work." What about the "war on poverty" that began in the '60s, the policies that Obama and his party want to continue and expand? Do you know that today 70 percent of black children and over 50 percent of Hispanics are born outside of wedlock? The welfare state – which Democrats want to expand – has played a huge role in discouraging marriage and destabilizing families.
Speaking of helping the "underprivileged," I'd suggest you read a book called "Who Really Cares," by Arthur C. Brooks. A non-Republican professor raised by Democrats, he examined the charitable spending habits of Democrats and Republicans. The results surprised him. Brooks found that Republicans give far more of their money and time for charitable purposes than do Democrats. And the giving is not confined to their churches or other houses of worship. This, by the way, has nothing to do with income. Poor Republicans give more than poor Democrats.
Compassion is not about making people dependent on government. Compassion is about encouraging personal responsibility, and getting people to understand that life is about making choices. Poverty does not cause crime. Crime causes poverty. Poverty does not cause a child to have a child. A child having a child causes poverty. Finishing high school is a choice. Not joining a gang is a choice. Not having a child until you have the maturity and the means to raise that child is a choice."
Quoting Larry Elder
 

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Ironsides

Thank you - I think Elder can probably speak more to the point of what is accurate than many of us here....and would do so.
 

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<DIV class=date-posts><DIV class=post-outer><DIV class="post hentry">Harry Reid Supporters throw eggs at Tea Party Express bus and Andrew Breitbart


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Harry Reid’s goon squad was working overtime today.
From Tea Party Express III: Supporters of Senator Harry Reid have just thrown eggs at the Tea Party Express bus caravan - striking at least one of the three buses (the red Tea Party Express bus) with multiple eggs.
About 35 Reid supporters had lined Highway 95 in front of the Nugget Casino in Searchlight where they were attempting a counter-demonstration the tens of thousands of tea party supporters who are gathering for the "Showdown in Searchlight."
If that wasn’t enough, when Andrew Breitbart confronted Reid’s goons, they tried and failed to egg him too.
From the Founding Bloggers: Supporters of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid staged a counter-protest today in Searchlight, Nevada, the Senator’s hometown. Reid supporters gathered just down the road from the launching point of the Tea Party Express tour, and when Breitbart happened upon them, he was met with threats of violence. At least one protester threw an egg at Brietbart, missing him. Eggs were also thrown at the Tea Party Express bus.
To add insult to insult, Reid supporters called the police to report that Breitbart had provoked an incident.
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<DIV class=MsoNormal>Sunday, March 28, 2010

<DIV class=date-posts><DIV class=post-outer><DIV class="post hentry">Showdown in Searchlight: Thousands of Tea Partiers rally at Tea Party Express III in Searchlight Nevada


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The Tea Party Express rolled into Searchlight, Nevada. Searchlight is the hometown of Senate Majority leader Harry Reid. I have read crowd estimates from 8,000 to 20,000 people. CNN though did estimate the crowd to be "Hundreds of people, at least dozens of people - we haven't gotten a count of how many people turned out there”. Let the image below be your guide.


<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Unruly supporters of Harry Reid set up camp about a mile away from the Tea Party rally. Perhaps these are the dozens of people CNN was talking about.
 

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"You also might want to familiarize yourself with the history of the Democratic and Republican parties, and see which party has stood up longer for the rights of people of color. Do you know that Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution – abolishing slavery, granting citizenship rights to newly freed slaves, and guaranteeing the right to vote (at least on paper) to blacks, respectively? Do you know that most of the politicians who stood for segregation were Southern Democrats? Do you know that the Ku Klux Klan was founded by Democrats, one of whose goals was to stop the spread of the Republican Party? Do you know that, as a percentage of the party, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

So what is new about that? It is well known that Southern white racists used to infest Democratic Party in the old days. But in the late 60s and 70s, Republicans made a concerted effort to woo the racist southerners, with the so called ‘Southern Strategy’ by Nixon. Nixon recognized that there were many more white racists in the south than there were blacks, a lot more votes were to be had by courting the white racists than by courting blacks.

So it was a conscious decision on the part of Republican Party to throw blacks overboard and court the white racists in the south. That is why there was a mass migration of white racists from Democratic Party to Republican Party in the south, to the point that these days the south is predominantly Republican. Also, that is why the blacks are terrified of the Republican Party, they see all the overt and covert racism and they don’t want to have anything to do with it.

Just recently there has been the controversy about Republican Virginia governor declaring April as the Confederate months, thereby glorifying the south’s part in Civil War and in the slavery. Now the governor has apologized for not mentioning slavery in the proclamation, but the damage is done. The proclamation is really symptomatic of what many Republicans feel about blacks. They feel utter contempt and hatred towards blacks.

In recent times every Republican governor of Virginia has issued the proclamation glorifying South's role in the civil war, glorifying slavery. Every Democratic governor has refused to do so.

So the history that you mention means nothing. That only tells us that at one time Republican Party used to be the party of moderation, the party of civil rights, the party of Eisenhower, party of Rockefeller, Party of Thurgood Marshall (former black Supreme Court justice appointed by Eisenhower).

These days it is the party of extremism, party of hate, party of racism. Party of Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh, party of Joan of arc, party of Gingrich, party of teabaggers.


 
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SirJosephPorter

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Do you know that inner-city parents want vouchers – the right to determine where their children go to school? Do you know most Democrats, including Barack Obama, oppose this? Republicans, for the most part, support vouchers. Where vouchers have been tried, kids appear to perform better, with higher parental satisfaction. You tell me, how many things are more important than a child's education?
Do you know that 36 percent of babies aborted are black, while blacks make up 17 percent of live births? Do you know that polls show blacks are more pro-life than are whites? Yet the Democratic Party – to which over 90 percent of blacks belong – is the party of Roe v. Wade, requiring states to legalize abortion on demand. Do you know that Margaret Sanger, the founder of the organization that became Planned Parenthood, believed that poor blacks were inferior and that aborting their babies made our society better? Look it up.


Again, I know all that. But have you asked yourself, in spite of being in agreement with Republicans on many issues, why do blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic? Blacks are the most loyal Democratic constituency. Even when Republicans win by a landslide (like with Reagan), democrats still manage to get a majority of black votes.

The reason for that cannot be because they agree with Democratic Party on issues, can it? The reason has to be the inherent racism in the Republican Party, the utter contempt, utter hatred shown by the Republican Party towards blacks (and towards Hispanics, towards gays, indeed towards any minority).

Indeed, it is the same thing with Indians. One my my Indian friends told me that Indians tend to be very conservative on social issues (most of them are against sex before marriage, for instance). But Indians vote mostly Democratic. He said that if ever Republicans can get over their revulsion of dark skin, they have a ready made, loyal constituency in the Indian community in USA.

You are really making my point for me.



 

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Hahaha Ironsides

Reid flipping a bird shows the true sissy coming out from behind the door while his paid help do the deeds.... loved that picture!!

They were probably old eggs left from Easter -
 

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Speaking of helping the "underprivileged," I'd suggest you read a book called "Who Really Cares," by Arthur C. Brooks. A non-Republican professor raised by Democrats, he examined the charitable spending habits of Democrats and Republicans. The results surprised him. Brooks found that Republicans give far more of their money and time for charitable purposes than do Democrats. And the giving is not confined to their churches or other houses of worship. This, by the way, has nothing to do with income. Poor Republicans give more than poor Democrats.
Compassion is not about making people dependent on government. Compassion is about encouraging personal responsibility, and getting people to understand that life is about making choices. Poverty does not cause crime. Crime causes poverty. Poverty does not cause a child to have a child. A child having a child causes poverty. Finishing high school is a choice. Not joining a gang is a choice. Not having a child until you have the maturity and the means to raise that child is a choice."
Quoting Larry Elder

Larry Elder is a right wing extremist, another Clarence Thomas, another Michael Steele. His columns appear in the extreme right wing websites such as WorldNetDaily and TownHall. He is too extreme for the mainstream press; I don’t think his articles appear in the mainstream Republican supporting newspapers, such as Wall Street Journal.

I wouldn’t believe a word Larry Elder says. He is one of the few black teabaggers.
 

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I'm amazed at the ability of Hyacinth to lump all 'Black' people and all 'Indians' into blocs that have exactly the same values and politics.

Makes me wonder why, for example, India has elections.
 

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Again, I know all that. But have you asked yourself, in spite of being in agreement with Republicans on many issues, why do blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic? Blacks are the most loyal Democratic constituency. Even when Republicans win by a landslide (like with Reagan), democrats still manage to get a majority of black votes.

The reason for that cannot be because they agree with Democratic Party on issues, can it? The reason has to be the inherent racism in the Republican Party, the utter contempt, utter hatred shown by the Republican Party towards blacks (and towards Hispanics, towards gays, indeed towards any minority).

Indeed, it is the same thing with Indians. One my my Indian friends told me that Indians tend to be very conservative on social issues (most of them are against sex before marriage, for instance). But Indians vote mostly Democratic. He said that if ever Republicans can get over their revulsion of dark skin, they have a ready made, loyal constituency in the Indian community in USA.

You are really making my point for me.
You have said or proven nothing.

Today, the only extremism party of hate and yes party of racism is the Liberal wing of the Democratic party. They have always been the snobs in the political world and have only reinforced that perception anytime they have gained any power. They introduced us to the term academia snobs because they think they are the only educated ones and thus able to run this country better than anyone else. There has never been a political wing of a party more hated by the majority of people in the U.S. as the Left Wing of the Democratic party is today. You may not like what Larry Elder wrote, but every word was true.
 

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You have said or proven nothing.

Today, the only extremism party of hate and yes party of racism is the Liberal wing of the Democratic party. They have always been the snobs in the political world and have only reinforced that perception anytime they have gained any power. They introduced us to the term academia snobs because they think they are the only educated ones and thus able to run this country better than anyone else. There has never been a political wing of a party more hated by the majority of people in the U.S. as the Left Wing of the Democratic party is today. You may not like what Larry Elder wrote, but every word was true.

Larry Elder is a right wing extremist, I wouldn’t put a lot of faith in what he says. He pretty much describes what the far right base of the Republican Party thinks. If you are in sync with the far right base, naturally you are going to regard everything Elder says as the Gospel truth. But I don’t have much use for extremists of any kind.

And again, proof of the pudding is in the eating. You claim that blacks agree with Republican Party on the issues. Then what is the reason why they overwhelmingly vote against Republicans? I can think of only one reason, unbridled, unashamed racism on the part of Republicans. Can you think of another reason? I don’t think one exists.

Republicans have contempt for any minority, whether it be blacks, Hispanics gays etc. It is known as the party of the white (heterosexual) man, and its far right base is mostly composed of white men.
 

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There has never been a political wing of a party more hated by the majority of people in the U.S. as the Left Wing of the Democratic party is today. You may not like what Larry Elder wrote, but every word was true.

As to left wing of Democratic Party being hated by Americans that is certainly true of teabaggers. Teabaggers hate Democrats with a passion, as was evident with the racist, homophobic remarks by teabagers recently and the incident of spiting by a teabagger.

However, if American people hate Democratic Party with a passion, why did they elect Democrats in such big numbers in 2006 ands 2008? By every test, I am sure you could consider Hillary a liberal, so by your definition, Americans hate her with a passion. Why did they elect her twice to the Senate from New York?

I am sure you think Obama is a liberal, so I assume you think that Americans hate him with a passion. Then why did they elect him in 2008, over a Republican?

I am sure you also think that Clinton is a liberal, so I assume Americans hate him with a passion. Then why did Marinas elect him not once, but twice to presidency?

In short, it is only your opinion that Americans hate liberals with a passion.
 

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Sir Joseph Sir Joseph

Larry Elder is no extremist - I have watched him for over ten years and he remains true to his beliefs, acts upon them and exhorts others to comprehend what he determines is right and correct for the leadership of the nation.

I thought you were a better judge of character - with Elder you are wrong.
 

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Sir Joseph Sir Joseph

Larry Elder is no extremist - I have watched him for over ten years and he remains true to his beliefs, acts upon them and exhorts others to comprehend what he determines is right and correct for the leadership of the nation.

I thought you were a better judge of character - with Elder you are wrong.

But a man can be an extremist and still show all the attributes you mentioned. Larry Elder only publishes in the extreme right wing websites, such as WorldNetDaily and TownHall. Mainstream media does not carry his articles. As far as I am concerned, he does not have enough credibility.