Who owns the land you live on, you or the Natives?

[FascistCanuck]

Who owns the land you live on, you or the Natives?

Real Estate has exploded to unthinkable levels here in Canada. We here in Canada use to look at Japan and think to our self’s wow so expensive to own real estate in Japan. Today we Canadians have embarked on to the same flight in Real Estate as Japan. The question we are suddenly reminded here in Canada is who really owns certain area of property in every city in Canada. The Native Canadians or non Native Canadians? Yet in real life we are all Canadians the Natives and non Native Canadians who are blessed to live in this beautiful country. The dispute in lease rights has been on going for a long time in many parts of the country with out any resolution that would help to stop this ongoing disobedience that hearts every Canadian Native and the non Natives.
The only solution available to us all, is to insure that the Government of the day will negociate a fair setalment for both sides. The Problem gets biger when the Government of the day dosent do the apropriate job in negociating a deal that will not need revisiting like today in Caledonia.

As well the natives must respect any settlement presented to them and excepted by them or the recipe is good but the eating is not.

Natives tear up road

Broadcast News
Published: Monday, May 22, 2006
CALEDONIA, Ontario -- Tensions have escalated again at the site of an aboriginal protest near Caledonia, Ontario.
This afternoon, protesters began to tear up a portion of the road they have been barricading since April.
The Six Nations protesters had removed their blockade across the main road through Caledonia earlier today, but now they've blocked it again -- and brought in a backhoe to dig it up.
They're angry that non-native protesters who'd set up a counter blockade on the road refused to let them pass through.

Within the last hour they resurrected their own barricade.
Six Nations members have occupied a construction site nearby since February, arguing that the land belongs to them.
They say they agreed to lease the property for a road in 1835, but never agreed to sell.
The road blockade went up after police tried to forcibly end their occupation on April 20th.

The answer is simple. The land, ALL OF IT, is owned by Canadians. No bloody 'native' will ever convince me otherwise. We have given these 'natives' BILLIONS of dollars in support dollars. We even gave them an entire territory they could call their own: Nunavut. What gives? Why are they STILL on this land-claim march? It is time to exercise the mailed fist that is the Canadian Armed Forces. Next time natives attempt to stifle a community's right to a smooth, efficient economy the Canadian Forces Leopard I tanks should roll right over those natives who seek to block our PUBLIC roads (as in owned by the Canadian taxpayer). If the natives see fit to block our roads, I say we muster the forces of chaos within their reserves by parking Leopard I tanks inside. That is a fair and equitable solution.
It may even be possible to withold ALL monies to the Six Nations the moment any of their 'citizenry' takes to blocking our PUBLIC roads. They block our roads, we block their cash flow. Simple.

 

[FascistCanuck]

Re: RE: Crown Land

Unless I am mistaken, I think that the Crown of Canada "owns" a vast majority of the land of Canada; however, I believe that Native land is not "owned" by the Native peoples, and is rather "held" by Her Majesty the Queen, independent of the Government of Canada (some experts have contended that Native persons could go to the Queen and the Privy Council to settle land disputes, if forced to do so).

Interesting,

The Queen does not own any land in Canada. When they say 'crown', they mean the Canadian government. Please accept the fact our Queen, although considered our Head of State, exercises no real powers. She is a mere figurehead.

 

[Jersay]

You are an occupier of the land. You don't own anything. You occupy the land from another people that you do genocide against and still do. And if you rent you do not own your property, you are just a squattor residing there until you are kicked out for another renter. And if you have to pay the bank well you don't own your home.

The only true Canadian are the aboriginals and you can get out.

 

[FascistCanuck]

You are an occupier of the land. You don't own anything. You occupy the land from another people that you do genocide against and still do. And if you rent you do not own your property, you are just a squattor residing there until you are kicked out for another renter. And if you have to pay the bank well you don't own your home.

The only true Canadian are the aboriginals and you can get out.

Genocide?? I would take care how you slander a people. No 'genocide' has ever occurred. You do understand the meaning of the word yes? You do my people a disservice by suggesting we committed any form of genocide. That is dangerous ground my dear aboriginal.
As for 'occupier' of the land, your people have been handed money by the Canadian taxpayer for more than a century. You speak of paying rent. I would suggest it is more like a mortgage. The land that we proudly call Canada has been bought and paid for via huge cash infusions from the federal government to support your people. The bank has been repaid in full many times over. In my estimation, we should be receiving a very large refund in exchange you have squandered so much of that money on drugs and booze. Do not blame us for your shortcomings. I will not tolerate this hijacking of my country.
You want peace? Then demonstrate this by speaking with the elected officials that form our government. Do NOT go around threatening local Canadians and affecting their ability to earn a living. I abhor how my current government has handled this. Those citizens who wish the natives to end the blockade at Caledonia are TAXPAYERS. As the fascist leader of Canada, I would see it as my duty to protect those very same taxpayers from rabble such as yourselves. You have blocked a PUBLIC road paid for by those very same citizens, a road upon which you have absolutely no right to be on as it is contrary to Canadian law. If your people were to remain with their blockade, as Canada's fascist leader I would have the tanks rolling into Caledonia in a heartbeat. I for one would not give a damn about world opinion. The WORLD does not serve Canada's interests. I do. If need be, reconquest of your people may be necessary to enforce a stable Canada. Rabble such as yourselves will NOT continue with these terrorist activities.

 

[Jersay]

Well I will tell you Genocide has occured, or have you forgotten about the Beothuk Indians in Newfoundland. They are gone. No one left, that is Genocide when you have English hunters running around Newfoundland picking off Beothuk Indians because they were a different race of people.

In North America, 20 million Native pre contact, 1900 there was only 400,000 left in North America.

You think I'm a Native. :lol: I am happy to say that I come from Nordic background. At least I have humanitarian tendencies unlike you and I try to help people who need help, and I try to help people who have been pushed down by an occupier.

Now, 8 billion a year, find a date when that started. It didn't start in 1867.

Also, 10% of all that money goes to Indian Affairs, Indian Agents. So there is 800,000,000 right there. Maybe if you provided them their own resource rights on their land they wouldn't need hand outs.

If you gave them clinics and Native nursers so it was only 24 hours 7 days a week.

Maybe if you allowed the traditional government, not this band council crap that is government created. Then you would get bang for your buck.

 

[Jersay]

Genocide?? I would take care how you slander a people. No 'genocide' has ever occurred. You do understand the meaning of the word yes? You do my people a disservice by suggesting we committed any form of genocide. That is dangerous ground my dear aboriginal.
As for 'occupier' of the land, your people have been handed money by the Canadian taxpayer for more than a century. You speak of paying rent. I would suggest it is more like a mortgage. The land that we proudly call Canada has been bought and paid for via huge cash infusions from the federal government to support your people. The bank has been repaid in full many times over. In my estimation, we should be receiving a very large refund in exchange you have squandered so much of that money on drugs and booze. Do not blame us for your shortcomings. I will not tolerate this hijacking of my country.
You want peace? Then demonstrate this by speaking with the elected officials that form our government. Do NOT go around threatening local Canadians and affecting their ability to earn a living. I abhor how my current government has handled this. Those citizens who wish the natives to end the blockade at Caledonia are TAXPAYERS. As the fascist leader of Canada, I would see it as my duty to protect those very same taxpayers from rabble such as yourselves. You have blocked a PUBLIC road paid for by those very same citizens, a road upon which you have absolutely no right to be on as it is contrary to Canadian law. If your people were to remain with their blockade, as Canada's fascist leader I would have the tanks rolling into Caledonia in a heartbeat. I for one would not give a damn about world opinion. The WORLD does not serve Canada's interests. I do. If need be, reconquest of your people may be necessary to enforce a stable Canada. Rabble such as yourselves will NOT continue with these terrorist activities.

You and your fascist rubble are the real terrorists who should be arrested and detained. We don't need fascist trash.

 

[FascistCanuck]

Genocide?? I would take care how you slander a people. No 'genocide' has ever occurred. You do understand the meaning of the word yes? You do my people a disservice by suggesting we committed any form of genocide. That is dangerous ground my dear aboriginal.
As for 'occupier' of the land, your people have been handed money by the Canadian taxpayer for more than a century. You speak of paying rent. I would suggest it is more like a mortgage. The land that we proudly call Canada has been bought and paid for via huge cash infusions from the federal government to support your people. The bank has been repaid in full many times over. In my estimation, we should be receiving a very large refund in exchange you have squandered so much of that money on drugs and booze. Do not blame us for your shortcomings. I will not tolerate this hijacking of my country.
You want peace? Then demonstrate this by speaking with the elected officials that form our government. Do NOT go around threatening local Canadians and affecting their ability to earn a living. I abhor how my current government has handled this. Those citizens who wish the natives to end the blockade at Caledonia are TAXPAYERS. As the fascist leader of Canada, I would see it as my duty to protect those very same taxpayers from rabble such as yourselves. You have blocked a PUBLIC road paid for by those very same citizens, a road upon which you have absolutely no right to be on as it is contrary to Canadian law. If your people were to remain with their blockade, as Canada's fascist leader I would have the tanks rolling into Caledonia in a heartbeat. I for one would not give a damn about world opinion. The WORLD does not serve Canada's interests. I do. If need be, reconquest of your people may be necessary to enforce a stable Canada. Rabble such as yourselves will NOT continue with these terrorist activities.

You and your fascist rubble are the real terrorists who should be arrested and detained. We don't need fascist trash.

How did you determine this? I merely seek to protect my fellow Canadian citizens. It is YOU who has blocked the roads in Caledonia. A PUBLIC road I may add. You therefore are intruding on THEIR land. Not the other way around. You paid nothing for that road. Those who attempt to get through your terrorist blockade merely seek to earn a living. That road is the means by which they may reach their place of employment. You have therefore deprived them of a basic Canadian right, the right to earn a living. As such, YOU are the terrorist.
Since one of the mandates of our Canadian Forces is to combat terrrorism, it would be within my right - nay my OBLIGATION to send in our tanks as a means by which I may have your people removed. I would never deem to allow YOUR rights take precedence over those of taypaying Canadian citizens who have children to feed and mortgages to pay for. You seek to disrupt their daily lives. This by definition is TERRORISM. This fact would therefore give me the right to enforce removal of that blockade by whatever means necessary.

 

[wallyj]

Come on now,20 million in N.a. pre-contact. I call bullshit on that. Where did that come from,your elders pass it on? FYI,there was a war and the natives lost. They signed treaties to stop the war and keep thier people from being completely eradicated. They own thier reserve land and that is it. They have no proof of a lease,no one can even say how long the lease was to last. NO proof at all.every time I hear tradition and culture I cringe because I know they are looking for another hand-out.The caledonia land was sold in 1842 and there is documents proving this fact.The police should arrest anyone that blockades a public road,right off the bat.

 

[FiveParadox]

:!: Point of Order

I would suggest that we should not make entire posts in bold and red. It is quite a well-established convention on these forums that the Administrators and Moderators use this style when acting in their official capacities as the staff of Canadian Content. Members using this style, unless an Administrator or a Moderator, should (in my opinion) change to another colour.

:!: Topic at Hand

Hey there, FascistCanuck!

Welcome to Canadian Content. If ever you need assistance with something, I would be happy to assist you in whatever way I can by way of private messages. Of course, if you have any questions or comments, our Administrators and Moderators are happy to help members any time. I hope to see you around the forum, and I am happy to see you jumping right in like this.

First, in terms of your comment regarding Her Majesty the Queen of Canada, I was not attempting to suggest that Her Majesty should actively exercise any of her reserved powers. Rather, I was bringing up the fact that some experts (according to the Wikipedia®) suggest that Native Canadians could go to Her Majesty in relation to treaties or claims that are based before Confederation. However, I would assume (as would be quite a reasonable convention) that Her Majesty would only act on the advice of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council or the House of Lords (I am unsure as to which institution would consider a claim in place of the Supreme Court of Canada, were such a thing ever to occur). However, this is entirely speculative.

Back to the topic at hand, however, I respectfully disagree with the suggestion that Canada should deploy its Canadian Forces in the event of dissidence among the Native population in terms of land claims. While I denounce any legal activities that may have accompanied recent protests on the part of Native Canadians, the core of the situation is that they are protesting something which they deem to be unjust — the situation should be considered by the appropriate parties and a peaceful solution can be drawn. We should not resort to killing Native Canadians who disagree with previous, or pending land claim rulings.

 

[Jersay]

Show me evidence that it was sold Wally. Show me evidence, that's right you have none. If it was sold legally, the government would present its evidence and say for them to get off their lands.

And it is a known fact that Aboriginal Canadians have lived here for Thousands of years. Unless you are a total moron and don't listen to history. Funny thing is that if it wasn't for natives, Canada would have lost 1812, they would have lost other wars as well, and if it wasn't for the natives who decided not to side with Louis Riel, Canada wouldn't be here. But because you don't know any of this I have wasted enough time trying to make intelligence out of you people.

So you call the Natives terrorists? The Non-Native are the ones with weapons, they are the ones who have threatened violence, and they are not terrorists. F* all of you, the non-native protestors are the only f*ing terrorists around Caledonia.

 

[Kreskin]

OK Jersay, time for the happy pills.

 

[selfactivated]

Want one of mine? Ive got several to choose from

 

[Jersay]

No its not time for the Happy pills. Besides I am all out.

 

[LeCentre]

RE: Who owns the land you

What a thread! An (Arab?)hyphen-Canadian, a Scandinavian, a Fascist, and an Aboriginal who speaks about aboriginals in the third person all debating land rights.

WHO OWNS THE LAND; YOU OR THE NATIVES? was the original question.

Here's my answer, basing myself on what I consider to be a legal approach to things.
As mentioned above, the terms of the contract determine who owns the land. Given that many of the terms were negotiated hundreds of years ago, what is likely needed in the case is arbitration by legal experts in the area of historical evolution of legal matters. A good place to start finding such people would be the men and women who edited Quebec's Civil Code and published the up-to-date version in 1994.
The idea is to consider the legal context of the time, while adapting for modern changes.
In this case, the questions would be: "what laws regulated contracts in 1835 ? What about leases, and other real-estate law?"
Then, the laws would be contextualized to today. For instance, while debtors prisons may have been in existence in Canada in 1835 (can't pay? = go to jail), we obviously don't accept that idea any more unless there is some sort of fraud at the root of a bankruptcy. Thus if Canada owes the First Nations money or vice-versa, obviously no one will go to jail.

There has been genocide against Amerinds, at least cultural if anything. First Nations children were forced by the Canadian government to go to Church-run schools in an effort to destroy the First Nations' culture, language etc.
However, Socrates the Greek, you make your arguments sound weak by repeating uninformed cliches about the downtrodden First Nations abused by their chiefs, stuck on glue by the white man, and about occupation of the Palestinians. For example, I read in a newspaper about this white woman who went to teach on a reserve, and fled after a while because she was getting death threats. Legally and logically, the only people responsible for issuing those threats were those who issued them. You can influence someone, but ultimately, only the criminally insance are absolved of responsibility for their own actions.

Getting back to Caledonia: the law along with legal experts in the historical evolution of law can determine who owns the land (though if the terms were verbal, then obviously there's going to be some difficulty). There has been genocide against First Nations, but that's not really related to the matter at hand (unless I'm missing something that was implied above?). Finally, Socrates (the Amerind?), you may care to speak in the first person, using proper grammar, and without repeating tired, disproven cliches.

 

[FascistCanuck]

Well I will tell you Genocide has occured, or have you forgotten about the Beothuk Indians in Newfoundland. They are gone. No one left, that is Genocide when you have English hunters running around Newfoundland picking off Beothuk Indians because they were a different race of people.

In North America, 20 million Native pre contact, 1900 there was only 400,000 left in North America.

You think I'm a Native. :lol: I am happy to say that I come from Nordic background. At least I have humanitarian tendencies unlike you and I try to help people who need help, and I try to help people who have been pushed down by an occupier.

Now, 8 billion a year, find a date when that started. It didn't start in 1867.

Also, 10% of all that money goes to Indian Affairs, Indian Agents. So there is 800,000,000 right there. Maybe if you provided them their own resource rights on their land they wouldn't need hand outs.

If you gave them clinics and Native nursers so it was only 24 hours 7 days a week.

Maybe if you allowed the traditional government, not this band council crap that is government created. Then you would get bang for your buck.

*COUGH* PSST! LOOKY!

Actually, the first permanent newcomers to seriously affect the Beothuk were Native American, not European. For as long as they can remember, the Micmac from Cape Breton had been visiting Newfoundland during the summer to take advantage of the fishing. Their relations with the "Red Indians" had almost always been friendly, but in 1613 a French fisherman shot at an Beothuk who was trying to rob him. The Beothuk responded with an uprising which killed 37 French fishermen, and to protect themselves, the French began to encourage their Micmac allies to settle permanently in southern Newfoundland. As Micmac settlement spread along the southern coast of Newfoundland, competition with the Beothuk for resources led to fighting. The French provided the Micmac with firearms to defend both themselves and French fishermen, and it was no contest. The Beothuk were driven inland away from their usual food sources on the coast. Although the French during this period have been accused of paying bounties to the Micmac for Beothuk heads and scalps, no solid evidence has yet been found proving they actually did this. The Micmac also deny they were paid to kill Beothuk. Whatever the cause, the Beothuk were displaced into the interior.

I grow weary of people blaming the white man for everything. 99.9% of all 'crimes' committed by the white man never happened. You know it. The world knows it. Seems to me the Beothuk had their problems with the Miqmac. Hmmm??? You would seek to argue with history?

 

[wallyj]

o.k. jerkass,go to the citizens of caledonia website and link into the documents. You will find the bill of sale there.As for the natives owning the land for thousands of years,maybe but the land was invaded and lost in a war,hence we have treaties.Why do you think they were signed,a crooked poker game?Also,the native population of N.A. came over thousands of years ago from asia across the bering strait.So I guess the chinese should start claiming land in the name of thier ancestors.Fortunately the asians matured and joined the real world. I bet you hate them too!

 

[FascistCanuck]

:!: Point of Order

I would suggest that we should not make entire posts in bold and red. It is quite a well-established convention on these forums that the Administrators and Moderators use this style when acting in their official capacities as the staff of Canadian Content. Members using this style, unless an Administrator or a Moderator, should (in my opinion) change to another colour.

:!: Topic at Hand

Hey there, FascistCanuck!

Welcome to Canadian Content. If ever you need assistance with something, I would be happy to assist you in whatever way I can by way of private messages. Of course, if you have any questions or comments, our Administrators and Moderators are happy to help members any time. I hope to see you around the forum, and I am happy to see you jumping right in like this.

First, in terms of your comment regarding Her Majesty the Queen of Canada, I was not attempting to suggest that Her Majesty should actively exercise any of her reserved powers. Rather, I was bringing up the fact that some experts (according to the Wikipedia®) suggest that Native Canadians could go to Her Majesty in relation to treaties or claims that are based before Confederation. However, I would assume (as would be quite a reasonable convention) that Her Majesty would only act on the advice of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council or the House of Lords (I am unsure as to which institution would consider a claim in place of the Supreme Court of Canada, were such a thing ever to occur). However, this is entirely speculative.

Back to the topic at hand, however, I respectfully disagree with the suggestion that Canada should deploy its Canadian Forces in the event of dissidence among the Native population in terms of land claims. While I denounce any legal activities that may have accompanied recent protests on the part of Native Canadians, the core of the situation is that they are protesting something which they deem to be unjust — the situation should be considered by the appropriate parties and a peaceful solution can be drawn. We should not resort to killing Native Canadians who disagree with previous, or pending land claim rulings.

WTF?? Are you daft? You would presume to tell me what colour text I must post in? I should think not. Yours would be absolutely the FIRST and ONLY site to make such a ridiculous request. If I was not meant to have the ability to post in whatever colour I may, you would not have provided me with the ability to change said colour. Now scram. You are damn right it is an 'opinion'. You invite people to join the site and post. You do NOT presume to order them about the site.

Who said anything about killing native Canadians? That is TWO people who have made this assumption. This is called taking things out of context. I merely suggest if force is necessary, use it. A rifle butt across the temple of a native will do well in convincing him it is in his best interest to move along.

Tell me, why are you so concerned with the natives? What of the Caledonian residents who are simply angered that one of their main roads is being blockaded? When I say 'their' road, this is in fact correct. It is government property. It does NOT belong to the natives. Never has and never shall.

You admit to the natives partaking in illegal activities. Yet you take their side? What have the people of Caledonia done to deserve such terrorist activity? They only seek to make their way to work. To do other things. The natives prevent this. They are stomping on the very rights of Canadians to earn a living. This is a terrorist act. As such, the Forces need to be brought in.

Please keep the British crown or their government out of these discussions. They are completely irrelevant. We are no longer a British colony hence they have no say in the matter. Although I am British, I am a Canadian first. The British are rendered moot. I should like to never see any more postings about them. I thank you kindly.

If the natives wish to discuss their claims, they would do well to tromp on over to Ottawa and make an appointment. Do NOT interfere with the daily lives of average Canadians or suffer the consequences. That is what I would say as your new fascist leader of Canada.

 

[FascistCanuck]

Re: RE: Who owns the land you live on, you or the Natives?

o.k. jerkass,go to the citizens of caledonia website and link into the documents. You will find the bill of sale there.As for the natives owning the land for thousands of years,maybe but the land was invaded and lost in a war,hence we have treaties.Why do you think they were signed,a crooked poker game?Also,the native population of N.A. came over thousands of years ago from asia across the bering strait.So I guess the chinese should start claiming land in the name of thier ancestors.Fortunately the asians matured and joined the real world. I bet you hate them too!

The land was 'invaded'?? News to me. Since when?? It was lost in war? By whom and to whom?? WTF are you talking about? What exactly is it you are smoking?

 

[wallyj]

It was invaded by Europeans looking to expand.It was lost in the "Indian wars of the late 1700's and early 1800's. Anymore questions? I smoke bella donna.

 

[FascistCanuck]

Re: RE: Who owns the land you live on, you or the Natives?

o.k. jerkass,go to the citizens of caledonia website and link into the documents. You will find the bill of sale there.As for the natives owning the land for thousands of years,maybe but the land was invaded and lost in a war,hence we have treaties.Why do you think they were signed,a crooked poker game?Also,the native population of N.A. came over thousands of years ago from asia across the bering strait.So I guess the chinese should start claiming land in the name of thier ancestors.Fortunately the asians matured and joined the real world. I bet you hate them too!

I would suggest you review the following although as a fascist I would deem the information below null and void:

Historical timeline
CBC News Online | April 21, 2006

Six Nations natives and developer Henco Industries are involved in a land dispute over a 40-hectare tract near Hamilton, Ont. Here is a history of the land in question:

1784:
For its loyalty to the British Crown during the American Revolution, the Six Nations is allowed to "take possession of and settle" a strip of land nearly 20 kilometres wide along the Grand River, from its source to Lake Erie, totaling about 385,000 hectares.

Henco Industries now says the so-called "Haldimand Grant" (named after the commander of the British forces) was merely a licence to occupy the lands, with legal title remaining with the Crown. Six Nations dispute that claim.

1792:
Lt.-Gov. John Graves Simcoe reduces land grant to the Six Nations to 111,000 hectares.

1796:
Six Nations grants its chief, Joseph Brant, the power of attorney to sell off some of the land and invest the proceeds. The Crown opposes the sales but eventually concedes.

1835:
The Crown approaches Six Nations about developing Plank Road (now Highway 6) and the surrounding area. Six Nations agrees to lease half a mile of land on each side for road, but does not surrender the land. Lt.-Gov. John Colborne agrees to the lease but his successor, Sir Francis Bond Head, does not. After 1845, despite the protests of Six Nations, Plank Road and surrounding lands would be sold to third parties.

1840:
The government recommends that a reserve of 8,000 hectares be established on the south side of the Grand River and the rest sold or leased.

Jan. 18, 1841:
Six Nations council agrees to surrender for sale all lands outside those set aside for a reserve, on the agreement the government would sell the land and invest the money for them. A faction of Six Nations petition against the surrender, saying the chiefs were deceived and intimidated.

Six Nations would challenge that claim in a 1995 lawsuit and it is part of the basis for the current protest.

June 1843:
A petition to the Crown said Six Nations needed a 22,000-hectare reserve and wanted to keep and lease a tier of lots on each side of Plank Road and several other tracts of land in the Haldimand area.

Dec. 18, 1844:
A document signed by 47 Six Nations chiefs appears to authorize sale of land to build Plank Road.

May 15, 1848:
The land where the current development, Douglas Creek Estates, now sits is sold to George Marlot Ryckman for 57 pounds and 10 shillings and a Crown deed is issued to him.

1850:
The Crown passes a proclamation setting out extent of reserve lands, about 19,000 hectares agreed to by the Six Nations chiefs.

1924:
Under the Indian Act, the Canadian government establishes an elected government on the reserve.

1992:
Henco Industries Ltd. purchases a company that owned 40 hectares of what it would later call the Douglas Creek Estates lands.

1995:
The Six Nations sue the federal and provincial governments over the land. The developer calls it "an accounting claim" for "all assets which were not received but ought to have been received, managed or held by the Crown for the benefit of the Six Nations."

July 2005:
The subdivision plan for Douglas Creek Estates is registered with title to the property guaranteed by the province of Ontario.

Feb. 28, 2006:
A group of Six Nations members takes over the housing project, erecting tents, a teepee and a wooden building.


Acccording to the above, the natives are infering with the daily life of Canadians. They have sabotaged Ontario Hydro, CN Rail etc. As a fascist, I would never allow this to continue. Force would most definitely be instigated against such acts of terrorism. Please review:

May 23, 2006 - TERRORIST TACTICS
Hydro One spokeswoman Laura Cooke says it will likely be days before electricity can be fully restored after vandalism and fire shut down a local power transformer. School boards serving Caledonia, Simcoe and Waterdown close 17 schools because of the ongoing power disruption.

April 25, 2006 - TERRORIST TACTICS
Haldimand County Mayor Marie Trainer infuriates protesters when she tells CBC Newsworld that Caledonia residents "have to get to work to support their families. If they don't go to work, they don't get paid and if they don't get paid then they can't pay their mortgages and they lose their homes.

"They don't have money coming in automatically every month," she continues. "They've got to work to survive and the natives have got to realize that."

I would suggest the natives be glad I am currently not the Canadian government. They would rue the day they ever set up a roadblock on government territory. As a fascist, I would stamp out such acts of terrorism.