Who likes communism?

passpatoo

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I remember seeing a science program on TV quite a few years ago on this subject.

The program followed a study on mice (or perhaps rats) living in one of those interconnected tubes and cages for pet rodents. Initially only a few animals were placed within the structure. They were allowed to breed normally and given regular nutrition, and everything was cool in rodent land. As the population grew in the structure, a number of changes started to occur in the rodents behaviour, fighting, infantcide, and homosexual behaviour were a few that I could remember.

As I recall, the program and the rodent experiment was presented a commentary on overpopulation rather than homosexuality but it was suggested that these behaviours go hand in hand.
 

Twila

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Well my daughter once told me when she was about 9 that she would not be a lesbian when she grew up.

We're a family of 2. Mayhaps that proves his point.
 

Twila

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Well my daughter once told me when she was about 9 that she would not be a lesbian when she grew up.

We're a family of 2. Mayhaps that proves his point.
 

Twila

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Well my daughter once told me when she was about 9 that she would not be a lesbian when she grew up.

We're a family of 2. Mayhaps that proves his point.
 

Twila

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I'd also like to add that I like the idea of communism. Just doesn't seem to pay off in reality (no pun intended. It just worked out that way)
 

Twila

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I'd also like to add that I like the idea of communism. Just doesn't seem to pay off in reality (no pun intended. It just worked out that way)
 

Twila

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I'd also like to add that I like the idea of communism. Just doesn't seem to pay off in reality (no pun intended. It just worked out that way)
 

passpatoo

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
Hey! Passpatoo

To understand your point would mean that kids from a family of 10 are far more likely to be homosexual than a nuclear family of 2?

Calm

I wasn't really trying to make a point. Just passing on something I came across a while ago, and kind of stuck with me. However, if what the study was suggesting was in fact true, I suppose that would in fact be the case.

If we were to assume the incidence of homosexuality in the general population was 10%, and since a person can be either homosexual or not homosexual but not 10% homosexual (I'm not sure where bisexuality fits in here). Then there would be a greater chance of one person from the family of 10 being homosexual than from the family of two.

On the other hand, I also see this arguement as falling into the same sort of trap as the person who told me that global warming isn't happening because we had a cold wet summer here last year. In either case, the observer has to look at the overall trend and not focus in on one family or weather pattern over a couple of years to draw thier conclusions from.
 

passpatoo

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
Hey! Passpatoo

To understand your point would mean that kids from a family of 10 are far more likely to be homosexual than a nuclear family of 2?

Calm

I wasn't really trying to make a point. Just passing on something I came across a while ago, and kind of stuck with me. However, if what the study was suggesting was in fact true, I suppose that would in fact be the case.

If we were to assume the incidence of homosexuality in the general population was 10%, and since a person can be either homosexual or not homosexual but not 10% homosexual (I'm not sure where bisexuality fits in here). Then there would be a greater chance of one person from the family of 10 being homosexual than from the family of two.

On the other hand, I also see this arguement as falling into the same sort of trap as the person who told me that global warming isn't happening because we had a cold wet summer here last year. In either case, the observer has to look at the overall trend and not focus in on one family or weather pattern over a couple of years to draw thier conclusions from.
 

passpatoo

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
Hey! Passpatoo

To understand your point would mean that kids from a family of 10 are far more likely to be homosexual than a nuclear family of 2?

Calm

I wasn't really trying to make a point. Just passing on something I came across a while ago, and kind of stuck with me. However, if what the study was suggesting was in fact true, I suppose that would in fact be the case.

If we were to assume the incidence of homosexuality in the general population was 10%, and since a person can be either homosexual or not homosexual but not 10% homosexual (I'm not sure where bisexuality fits in here). Then there would be a greater chance of one person from the family of 10 being homosexual than from the family of two.

On the other hand, I also see this arguement as falling into the same sort of trap as the person who told me that global warming isn't happening because we had a cold wet summer here last year. In either case, the observer has to look at the overall trend and not focus in on one family or weather pattern over a couple of years to draw thier conclusions from.
 

Rick van Opbergen

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Twila, I agree. The idea of communism (better: marxism) isn't that bad - it wants equality, and actually just yesterday I read a story about a former DDR-citizen who said that on the one hand, he hated communism for how it worked out, but on the other hand, is still grateful that it existed in the DDR. He was from a very poor family, but because of communism, he had the possibility to go to university and receive relatively good education (though it was of course biased because of the communist propaganda that was spread through it). He is still grateful for that. He said he didn't want communism back - his life in post-communist Germany is too good for that - but he sometimes misses the days. As he put it: "during the communist era there was the terror of communism; now we are part of the West, this has been replaced by the terror of consumption".
 

Rick van Opbergen

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Twila, I agree. The idea of communism (better: marxism) isn't that bad - it wants equality, and actually just yesterday I read a story about a former DDR-citizen who said that on the one hand, he hated communism for how it worked out, but on the other hand, is still grateful that it existed in the DDR. He was from a very poor family, but because of communism, he had the possibility to go to university and receive relatively good education (though it was of course biased because of the communist propaganda that was spread through it). He is still grateful for that. He said he didn't want communism back - his life in post-communist Germany is too good for that - but he sometimes misses the days. As he put it: "during the communist era there was the terror of communism; now we are part of the West, this has been replaced by the terror of consumption".
 

Rick van Opbergen

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Twila, I agree. The idea of communism (better: marxism) isn't that bad - it wants equality, and actually just yesterday I read a story about a former DDR-citizen who said that on the one hand, he hated communism for how it worked out, but on the other hand, is still grateful that it existed in the DDR. He was from a very poor family, but because of communism, he had the possibility to go to university and receive relatively good education (though it was of course biased because of the communist propaganda that was spread through it). He is still grateful for that. He said he didn't want communism back - his life in post-communist Germany is too good for that - but he sometimes misses the days. As he put it: "during the communist era there was the terror of communism; now we are part of the West, this has been replaced by the terror of consumption".
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

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Hey! Passpatoo

Yeh! I was only joking.
I didn't want to go on and on about it because I would of just ruined the joke.

Bi-sexuals must be raised in a family half that size. (A family of 5).
I come from a family of 6 kids. I'm all paranoid now.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

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Hey! Passpatoo

Yeh! I was only joking.
I didn't want to go on and on about it because I would of just ruined the joke.

Bi-sexuals must be raised in a family half that size. (A family of 5).
I come from a family of 6 kids. I'm all paranoid now.

Calm
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

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Hey! Passpatoo

Yeh! I was only joking.
I didn't want to go on and on about it because I would of just ruined the joke.

Bi-sexuals must be raised in a family half that size. (A family of 5).
I come from a family of 6 kids. I'm all paranoid now.

Calm
 

missile

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Do you remember the motto of The Musketeers? All for one,and one for all. Does that make them Communists or gay? I feel so neutral here,being a Socialist and all.