Who hates the most?

[Jay]

I'm having trouble coming up with that quote you attribute to her....I would like to see it in its context.

 

[zoofer]

"Moreover, consider that fewer than half the people in this country pay federal income tax. Fifty percent of the populace voting for the Democrats isn't bad when you realize that."

Ouch. That must have hurt! :lol:

 

[Dexter Sinister]

She is a product of exactly the same use of above from Democrats....

Oh come on Jay, you're making the Democrats responsible for her behaviour? She stands or falls on her own merits, and as far as I can tell, she has none.

Edited to fix a formatting error.

 

[Curiosity]

Which again proves....

Hate attracts more attention than love..... which is what the MSM have been feeding us for years.

Lots of information (and negative feelings) about Coulter - rather than some of the other Conservative women out there who are pounding the pavement as hard as she is.... Malkin.....Ingraham...
for example.

Whatever her destination (a trainwreck maybe)... Coulter is getting her word out there.

If it "bleeds" it "leads".

 

[Jay]

She is a product of exactly the same use of above from Democrats....

Oh come on Jay, you're making the Democrats responsible for her behaviour? She stands or falls on her own merits, and as far as I can tell, she has none.

Edited to fix a formatting error.

I know what you mean, but it's a war of attrition. It isn't the best we could hope for but America is going through changes like Canada is and it gets ugly down there for sure.

You raise some good points (as per usual).

Her merits do exist though…her BIO is better than many, and she knows the Law and what it means, another reason I like her.

How did I get mixed up in all of this? The Democrats made me do it! :lol:

 

[Jay]

If it "bleeds" it "leads".

8O :lol:

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: RE: Who hates the most?

I'm having trouble coming up with that quote you attribute to her....I would like to see it in its context.

Sorry Jay, I can't offer that. I heard her on the Laura Ingraham Show. You can either take my word for it or not, but she turned my stomach with that comment.

In fact as I recall it was a Republican caller who challenged her on that statement saying that it was wrong.

I can assure you that I've got my facts straight. If you choose not to believe me that is your choice, but I would ask you what my possible motive could be.

I'm a Conservative, but I will not support the likes of her.

Cheers
M

 

[Jay]

I believe you...It sounds like something she would say....I just find that although she can be sharp with her critiques, she usually has a purpose to it more than just belittling people.


Not too worry at all...all conservatives can't think like me or we would all be right all the time! :wink:

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Who hates the most?

I'm having trouble coming up with that quote you attribute to her....I would like to see it in its context.

Sorry Jay, I can't offer that. I heard her on the Laura Ingraham Show. You can either take my word for it or not, but she turned my stomach with that comment.

In fact as I recall it was a Republican caller who challenged her on that statement saying that it was wrong.

I can assure you that I've got my facts straight. If you choose not to believe me that is your choice, but I would ask you what my possible motive could be.

I'm a Conservative, but I will not support the likes of her.

Cheers
M

She is an arrogant idiot at the highest level, just like sean hannity, oreilly at fox crap.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Who hates the most?

I am a Conservative and I find Ann Coulter to be a disgusting overated uneducated idiot who on National Television claimed Canada was in Vietnam as a Nation.

She later went on to recant and say she meant Canadians who had come South to sign up.

But she really didn't know.

She is as insulting as she is ignorant.
M

This is the number one excuse people use to criticize Ann in Canada. Me? I think we need to do better than that, I think she thought since Canadians were in the war, we as a nation did it....big deal.

It's context, Jay. This was some form of rebuttal or criticism. If it was just said in passing, then fine, but was it? I've read this statement before, but what she was responding too escapes my memory. Like most things, eventually.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

For what it's worth, I can vouch for the Soldier's memory: I heard Coulter's comment about Canada being in Vietnam, and my memory of it is as he described. And my daughter confirms my memory as well, she heard it too.

Edited to add this: It was in the context of a discussion about Canada's refusal to participate in the assault on Iraq. It was no casual aside, it was a strongly made point about Canada supporting the U.S. militarily in Vietnam and why are we backing out this time.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I just found it disgusting. Believe or not some folks across the floor are good people and I attribute her thinking to that of dimwits like Sven Robinson, Jean Chretien.

She does little for the Conservative movement except give extreme leftists ammunition.

M

 

[Said1]

Coulter is nothing more than an entertainer. Too bad, she seemed smart at first.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Who hates the most?

I am a Conservative and I find Ann Coulter to be a disgusting overated uneducated idiot who on National Television claimed Canada was in Vietnam as a Nation.

She later went on to recant and say she meant Canadians who had come South to sign up.

But she really didn't know.

She is as insulting as she is ignorant.
M

This is the number one excuse people use to criticize Ann in Canada. Me? I think we need to do better than that, I think she thought since Canadians were in the war, we as a nation did it....big deal.

It's context, Jay. This was some form of rebuttal or criticism. If it was just said in passing, then fine, but was it? I've read this statement before, but what she was responding too escapes my memory. Like most things, eventually.

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"

McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."


She was mistaken...she probably thought we did because some Canadians did serve, just not in the capacity that she thought.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Who hates the most?

She does little for the Conservative movement except give extreme leftists ammunition.

M

You might be right, but if she does provide the left with amunition they sure do a lousy job of sending it back to us.

 

[Jay]

Here's the link I used.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0206-23.htm

Note 2 things...the CBC does a show on how the US media has been high jacked by conservatives (CBC bias anyone?) and how the words Ann uses are in no way reflective of the authors critique.

 

[zoofer]

Here is Coulters take which caused Kerry and Dems to go ballistic. :lol:

Cleland drops a political grenade
Feb 12, 2004
by Ann Coulter ( bio | archive | contact )

Email to a friend Print this page Text size: A A Former Sen. Max Cleland is the Democrats' designated hysteric about George Bush's National Guard service. A triple amputee and Vietnam veteran, Cleland is making the rounds on talk TV, basking in the affection of liberals who have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans and working himself into a lather about President Bush's military service. Citing such renowned military experts as Molly Ivins, Cleland indignantly demands further investigation into Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard.

Bush's National Guard service is the most thoroughly investigated event since the Kennedy assassination. But the Democrats will accept only two possible conclusions to their baseless accusations: (1) Bush was "AWOL," or (2) the matter needs further investigation.

Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard, which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proof that Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did the party of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed with honor?)

On "Hardball" Monday night, Cleland demanded to see Bush's pay stubs for the disputed period of time, May 1972 to May 1973. "If he was getting paid for his weekend warrior work," Cleland said, "he should have some pay stubs to show it."

The next day, the White House produced the pay stubs. This confirmed what has been confirmed 1 million times before: After taking the summer off, Bush reported for duty nine times between Nov. 29, 1972, and May 24, 1973 ? more than enough times to fulfill his Guard duties. (And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.)

All this has been reported ? with documentation ? many times by many news organizations. George magazine had Bush's National Guard records 3 1/2 years ago.

All available evidence keeps confirming Bush's honorable service with the Guard, which leads liberals to conclude ... further investigation is needed! No evidence will ever be enough evidence. That Bush skipped out on his National Guard service is one of liberals' many nondisprovable beliefs, like global warming.

Cleland also expressed outrage that Bush left the National Guard nine months early in 1973 to go to Harvard Business School. On "Hardball," Cleland testily remarked: "I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty." (Cleland already knows one ? Al Gore!)

When Bush left the National Guard in 1973 to go to business school, the war was over. It might as well have been 1986. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson had already lost the war, and President Nixon had ended it with the Paris peace accords in January. If Bush had demanded active combat, there was no war to send him to.

To put this in perspective, by 1973, John Kerry had already accused American soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, thrown someone else's medals to the ground in an anti-war demonstration, and married his first heiress. Bill Clinton had just finished three years of law school and was about to embark upon a political career ? which would include campaign events with Max Cleland.

Moreover, if we're going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam.

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman ? or what Cleland sneeringly calls "weekend warriors." Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam.

There is more than a whiff of dishonesty in how Cleland is presented to the American people. Terry McAuliffe goes around saying, "Max Cleland, a triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam," was thrown out of office because Republicans "had the audacity to call Max Cleland unpatriotic." Mr. Cleland, a word of advice: When a slimy weasel like Terry McAuliffe is vouching for your combat record, it's time to sound "retreat" on that subject.

Needless to say, no one ever challenged Cleland's "patriotism." His performance in the Senate was the issue, which should not have come as a bolt out of the blue inasmuch as he was running for re-election to the Senate. Sen. Cleland had refused to vote for the Homeland Security bill unless it was chock-full of pro-union perks that would have jeopardized national security. ("OH, MY GOD! A HIJACKED PLANE IS HEADED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!" "Sorry, I'm on my break. Please call back in two hours.")

The good people of Georgia ? who do not need lectures on admiring military service ? gave Cleland one pass for being a Vietnam veteran. He didn't get a lifetime pass.

Indeed, if Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. senator in the first place. Maybe he'd be the best pharmacist in Atlanta, but not a U.S. senator. He got into office on the basis of serving in Vietnam and was thrown out for his performance as a senator.

Cleland wore the uniform, he was in Vietnam, and he has shown courage by going on to lead a productive life. But he didn't "give his limbs for his country," or leave them "on the battlefield." There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight. That could have happened in the Texas National Guard ? which Cleland denigrates while demanding his own sanctification.

Ann Coulter is the author of How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must), Treason, Slander, and High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/anncoulter/2004/02/12/10725.html

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Eh, never trust your memory for details. Ann Coulter did make a forceful statement claiming Canada sent troops to Vietnam, and was corrected immediately, but by the interviewer, not a caller. Here's a video of the exchange with Bob McKeown, so you can see her body language. Click on the link Watch the McKeown/Coulter exchange on this page: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

edited to add: I just noticed a couple of interesting links to some media watchdog sites at the bottom of that page. One documents the left wing bias in American media, the other documents the right wing bias in American media. Who ya gonna believe? :?

 

[Curiosity]

What's the Score????

Coulter insulted Canada once...? She made a mistake ????

Take her to the gallows.....

You people can't be serious.... she's just a pundit....get a grip.

 

[Jay]

Eh, never trust your memory for details. Ann Coulter did make a forceful statement claiming Canada sent troops to Vietnam, and was corrected immediately, but by the interviewer, not a caller. Here's a video of the exchange with Bob McKeown, so you can see her body language. Click on the link Watch the McKeown/Coulter exchange on this page: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

edited to add: I just noticed a couple of interesting links to some media watchdog sites at the bottom of that page. One documents the left wing bias in American media, the other documents the right wing bias in American media. Who ya gonna believe? :?

Here's the link I used.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0206-23.htm

Note 2 things...the CBC does a show on how the US media has been high jacked by conservatives (CBC bias anyone?) and how the words Ann uses are in no way reflective of the authors critique.

What side does the CBC take?