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There were never white Irish slaves in the U.S.
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Irish slavery in America
There were Irish slaves in America as far back at the 1640. England used it as a way to rid the country of a lower class disturbing their lives. Irish were rounded up sent to America on slave market profitable to England. Many would like to say they were indentured servants but history states the facts.
Irish Slaves Untold Story in American History | readmaryann
readmaryann.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/irish-slaves-untold-story-in-american-…
The Irish were not considered to be white in the sense as being the same race as an Englishman.
They were not the same race according to the norms of the day.
While the majority of Irish people who became indentured servants in the colonies did so willingly (why they felt they had to so is, of course, another question), a not insignificant number were forcibly deported and sold into indentured servitude. This peaked just after the brutal Cromwellian conquest of Ireland when there were orders given in multiple counties to round up and deport those who, it was claimed, could not support themselves.
Indentured servitude was more insidious than simply a case of labor exploitation. A four- to seven-year indenture to serve out, bond servants lives and movements were subject to control and dominance by their masters even outside of work hours, with punitive restrictions placed on marriage, locomotion, and pregnancy.
So there were both voluntary and involuntary servants. What's the difference?
The laws were the same. Both were treated as servants and had a predetermined length of time to serve before they were freed. In Barbados the customary length of time to serve in the 1650s was between five or seven years, but in 1661 a new law was introduced that reduced this to between four to two years. This "custom" was altered by colonial administrators to attract servants to migrate to their colonies and it was also used to single out the Irish when they were not wanted. In 1655 harsh laws were passed in Virginia that targeted Irish servants who arrived in the colony without indentures. These terms for adults were two years longer than those that applied to other "Christian servants," and three years longer for those under 16 years of age. But by 1660 (the Restoration) the law was repealed.
Given all this, why has the myth of the Irish slaves lasted so long?
Firstly, I think we need to be precise about what it is we are labeling a myth and not throw the baby out with the bathwater. The "Irish slaves" myth that we contend with today is a relatively new manifestation (approximately two decades old) and refers to the drawing of a false equivalence with racialized perpetual hereditary chattel slavery and/or the refusal to delineate servitude and slavery. All the exaggerations and fabrications are secondary to the core mythos that "slavery was slavery" in the 17th-century Anglo-Caribbean.
But the concept of Irish people being enslaved in the Caribbean by Cromwellian forces is contemporary with the events themselves and is based on historical truth. This is why I have always referred to it in quotes, as a way of separating the present day propaganda from its use by Irish people who described it as slavery in the general sense at the time. The challenge in this discourse is identifying what [slavery] means in the past and the present.
https://psmag.com/.amp/social-justice/the-irish-were-not-slaves
The fact of the matter is that slavery was introduced to North America by the Red Indians and was eradicated by white men
British orphans were sent over to Canada in the same manner
Until the time of the Depression, 100,000 impoverished children from the British Isles were sent overseas by well-meaning philanthropists to solve the colony's farm-labour shortage. They were known as the "home children," and they were lonely and frightened youngsters to whom a new life in Canada meant only hardship and abuse.
The Little Immigrants: The Orphans Who Came to Canada ...
www.amazon.ca/Little-Immigrants-Orphans-Came-Canada/dp/1550023705
Until the time of the Depression, 100,000 impoverished children from the British Isles were sent overseas by well-meaning philanthropists to solve the colony's farm-labour shortage. They were known as the "home children," and they were lonely and frightened youngsters to whom a new life in Canada meant only hardship and abuse.
The Little Immigrants: The Orphans Who Came to Canada ...
www.amazon.ca/Little-Immigrants-Orphans-Came-Canada/dp/1550023705
Either way, I don’t think Putin should be rewarded and everybody except one G7 member agrees.
How am I supposed to take somebody who thinks the United States existed in 1640 seriously?
I mean, I don't expect you to know every detail of U.S. history, but 1640? What kind of retard are you?
Given to Ukraine as a wedding gift
Besides Ukrainian Cossacks won it for Russia from Turkey