Where and what is the crisis?

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talloola said:
I would not ever accuse the mother of being anything but concerned about her daughters. I have 4 daughters,
and if two of my daughters had been in same situation, at that age, I would have had lots of questions.

the driver also should have been concerned because of their ages, and the ticket problems could have been
sorted out later, the care of those young girls should have been first on the list 'to' get them to their
destination without making them hang around for hours.

their destination was red deer, and they should have been delivered there efficiently, and tickets
could have been paid for after the fact.

the kind of people who are lurking around 'anywhere' these days just waiting to find young girls on their
own for 'any' reason is a big concern, and no one should let that happen.

because tickets were expired, is not important compared to the care that should have been given those
sisters, and hanging around a gas station/bus station for 5 hours, is not care at all. there are extenuating
circumstances sometimes that ward reaching out to help people, this was one of those times, and it was
not done.

for anyone to think there is 'no' problem with this situation, is missing a few marbles.
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From the article it also stated that the bus was full which would make it difficult for the driver to accommodate the extra 'free' passengers safely even if he chose to do so. Imagine the uproar if the bus was involved in an accident and these girls were killed or hurt because they were improperly secured (not that there is much security in a bus in the first place).

I am not sure if the expired tickets were a scam by the teenagers for free passage or negligence on the mother's side for purchasing invalid tickets for the transport required. but I suspect this was not the first time the driver has seen this type of 'error'. Sorting it out later means free passage as once they got to the destination they would be into the wind never to be seen again. For all I know that could come out of the drivers salary.

Having said all that, I am not sure what the correct course of action was to take. If there actually was an attendant responsible at the station, then leaving them there is an appropriate action. If there wasn't, would calling the police be better? I am not sure what they would or could do.
 
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Greyhound have done this in the recent past.

Being on the road a lot here in BC the behaviour from these drivers is beyond bad it's a miracle there hasn't been a terrible accident.

All of this recent situation could have been avoided with a few cell phone calls and doesn't Valemont have cell service?

As to the statement from Greyhound head office it's not worth the paper it's written on.
 
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Issue is that these 2 young girls were left at a Petro Canada Station and made to stay there until morning. The 2 girls hung around the A' & W' all night, all while truckers came in and out of the station. Expired tickets!! seriously! The parents had paid full price for the ticket, but they had 'expired', what I find stupid is even if the 2 tickets had not been good, is it not common sense that you make sure to drop off these 2 girls to their family? It's common sense, that is wrong with people, it's a few bucks, a few golf balls for the owners. They're 12 and 16 year old girls; they said they got scared, I'm not surprised at all, my girls would have played cool, but they would have been scared for sure. Come on man!!
 
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bill barilko said:
Greyhound have done this in the recent past.

Being on the road a lot here in BC the behaviour from these drivers is beyond bad it's a miracle there hasn't been a terrible accident.

All of this recent situation could have been avoided with a few cell phone calls and doesn't Valemont have cell service?

As to the statement from Greyhound head office it's not worth the paper it's written on.
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So what does the driving habits of truck drivers have to do with the safety of two teenagers sitting in a bus depot? Another inane remark was the proximity of the bus depot to the "Highway of Tears". The victims of the H of T were hitch hikers, not girls sitting in a bus depot. There's altogether too much "helicopter parenting" happening these days. I'm baffled as to how me and my pals ever survived our childhood!:) :)
 
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JLM said:
So what does the driving habits of truck drivers have to do with the safety of two teenagers sitting in a bus depot? Another inane remark was the proximity of the bus depot to the "Highway of Tears". The victims of the H of T were hitch hikers, not girls sitting in a bus depot. There's altogether too much "helicopter parenting" happening these days. I'm baffled as to how me and my pals ever survived our childhood!:) :)
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They were NOT sitting in a bus depot. There is NO "bus depot" in Valemont. It is a Petro Canada GAS STATION with an A&W attached to it. That is it. Obviously you have never been there. I have, and it's NOT in the town proper, but is sitting on highway 5. Only 15 mins south of Highway 16, highway of tears.


BTW, Taloola is right, you are making light of this whole episode. One that COULD have ended far differently considering the age of the girls and where they were dropped.
 
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gerryh said:
They were NOT sitting in a bus depot. There is NO "bus depot" in Valemont. It is a Petro Canada GAS STATION with an A&W attached to it. That is it. Obviously you have never been there. I have, and it's NOT in the town proper, but is sitting on highway 5. Only 15 mins south of Highway 16, highway of tears.


BTW, Taloola is right, you are making light of this whole episode. One that COULD have ended far differently considering the age of the girls and where they were dropped.
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You (and Talloola) have a perfect right to your opinions, but they are still just opinions and my opinion which is still just an opinion is just as valid. You seem to forget that a lot. What you call "making light" I was merely characterizing as a PROBLEM rather than a CRISIS. P.S. I've been in Valemont many, many times- drank beer in the pub there 52 years (when the "highway" ran right through the centre of town) Please tell me what the "highway of tears" has to do with this incident? You're talkin' out your a$$ again, Gerry as expected! :) :)

gerryh said:
BTW, Taloola is right, you are making light of this whole episode. One that COULD have ended far differently considering the age of the girls and where they were dropped.
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Every time you get in your car and drive down the highway it is a situation that has the potential to end far differently. I still maintain the incident wasn't serious enough to warrant head lines on the National News. (THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE) :) :)
 
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JLM said:
So what does the driving habits of truck drivers have to do with the safety of two teenagers sitting in a bus depot?
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Greyhound drivers drive busses-ones with up to 46 passengers-they are passenger vehicles and if/when there's an accident internet whiners like you commence to do what you do best.

Also your notorious & chronic misogyny is showing-not that you care.
 
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JLM said:
You (and Talloola) have a perfect right to your opinions, but they are still just opinions and my opinion which is still just an opinion is just as valid. You seem to forget that a lot. What you call "making light" I was merely characterizing as a PROBLEM rather than a CRISIS. P.S. I've been in Valemont many, many times- drank beer in the pub there 52 years (when the "highway" ran right through the centre of town) Please tell me what the "highway of tears" has to do with this incident? You're talkin' out your a$$ again, Gerry as expected! :) :)
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The only one I see using the word "crisis", is you. It's definitely a "problem" and CBC decided to run with the story. It's something I definitely want to hear about. It appears, though, that you have set yourself up to be the be all and end all of who decides what should reported outside of local and what shouldn't. What other things do you deem not worth MY time to read on National news? What other things have you decided are not "newsworthy" for everyone else?


BTW, having an "opinion" does not make that "opinion" valid.


In my opinion, you are a complete idiot. I am sure there are people that feel that that "opinion" is not valid. Get it, dummy?



JLM said:
Every time you get in your car and drive down the highway it is a situation that has the potential to end far differently. I still maintain the incident wasn't serious enough to warrant head lines on the National News. (THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE) :) :)
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Yes, we know, you are the sole arbiter as to what is and is not worthy to be put on the National News.
 
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gerryh said:
The only one I see using the word "crisis", is you. It's definitely a "problem" and CBC decided to run with the story. It's something I definitely want to hear about. It appears, though, that you have set yourself up to be the be all and end all of who decides what should reported outside of local and what shouldn't. What other things do you deem not worth MY time to read on National news? What other things have you decided are not "newsworthy" for everyone else?


BTW, having an "opinion" does not make that "opinion" valid.


In my opinion, you are a complete idiot. I am sure there are people that feel that that "opinion" is not valid. Get it, dummy?






Yes, we know, you are the sole arbiter as to what is and is not worthy to be put on the National News.
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Glad to see you are acting true to form there, IDIOT!:) Of course opinions that don't coincide with yours aren't valid. You've made that very clear hundreds of times. Don't stop now! :) :)
 
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gerryh said:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=are+all+opinions+valid?&ie=&oe=
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I fully agree! As far as a general statement goes. Now you show me someone who is qualified to choose which ones, and I could possibly find someone to disagree. I would go as far to agree that thread is subjective and I would never make light of the mother's concern as I'm the same way, but whether it should make National news is a matter of opinion................I don't think it should. :) :)
 
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gerryh said:
They were NOT sitting in a bus depot. There is NO "bus depot" in Valemont. It is a Petro Canada GAS STATION with an A&W attached to it. That is it. Obviously you have never been there. I have, and it's NOT in the town proper, but is sitting on highway 5. Only 15 mins south of Highway 16, highway of tears.


BTW, Taloola is right, you are making light of this whole episode. One that COULD have ended far differently considering the age of the girls and where they were dropped.
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No one would have cared if they were boys.

The crisis, and what's news worthy, was that this was two young girls.

What is even more news worthy is the fact the two were left untouched and safe. Something that only happenes in places like Canada, and highly respectful society's, like Canada.
 
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