What is to be Done with the Port of Churchill?

DaSleeper

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Given that it may soon be ice free all year, why not use it to ship goods from the Prairies, especially since BC has become so unreliable.

 

MHz

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The port should be used to service Hudson Bay communities and those communities should agree to buy through Amazon only and Churchill can be the depot for the north. The fishing boats are not busy all the time so they can do a delivery service. Ice in the winter time allows for ice roads.


Mats, buoyant ones, made out of woven flax or hemp so they last 20 years and then become soil under the rails would spread out the load and design them properly the would have a high R-Value so slow down the melting and the ground could be artificially kept frozen year round if heavy loads were in demand year round. 40,000 online shoppers needs something that operates 24/7. I'm sure Winnipeg would like to get in on the action.


I can appreciate the Canadian Govt getting involved as they have money and talent. They also fuked the Indians over as often as possible in the past and a watchdog should be set up until the Indian can train some of their own people to be able to at least read a contract to see if it is fair to both parties rather than the worst service possiblefor above premium prices



Hudson Bay is a closed body or water, Purina or somebody should be able to use some grain to create some pellets for fish and the locals can increase their harvest that way without fearing they can be stolen
 

MHz

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This thread and the other one where the rail service is mentioned point to heavy in the winter and light in the summer and that will work if all the heavy stuff last till the frost comes again. Since the frost is not far away anchors could be used.

In the water logged areas a plastic extension on the rail tie would all allow more weight. The Pacific has lots of the stuff that floats and nobody will get shot if some is 'stolen'. Ontario needs a short term industry as it might open the north to more rail lines once they are all plastic. Screw in 'spikes' would mean the leveling crew can do a lot of miles in a day, freeze-up when the water is ice is when that would be needed.
AB could be kicking new floating 20ft x 4ft ties by X-mas of this year. New plastic for plastic that should be using recycled.
 

Bar Sinister

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Ice free all year? It won't be sunless for 3 months any longer?

Perhaps you should start selling Coppertone to Inuit for those bright and balmy days at the beach in January.

You'll make a killing.




Just is case you missed it, modern ships can actually navigate at night. But here you go,dumbass.



Why Canada should consider shipping oil by Hudson Bay by tanker rather than overland pipeline


https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/oil-via-hudson-bay


This is the polar bear capital of the world, but the snow has gone

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-canada-hudson-bay-no-snow-sea-ice-polar-bear
 

MHz

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If the trains only come 2x a week why don't the 'new owners' allow people to modify a truck so it rides the rails and can pull a couple of containers that have some wheels put under them?


Clay and water is not a good base for a set of rails to ride on. Today they make all kinds of waterproof road building fabrics that could be used to wrap the clay so it does not get wet and float away. A drilling lease can put down some of the cheaper stuff and 1m of clay and if it doesn't rain you can drive heavy loads.

Why could the peat not be dredged and pressed into a form that has little water in it and some ' industrial tote bags' could be used under the fabric so you have some cheap filler that will hold up the road until it is 'stabilized'. Even running a steel cable in the fill that is used for the sub-base can be made into a grid that hold together over what is almost a 'shallow lake'.


The more north you go it might be easier to install some pipes that go into the permafrost and bring the cold up and have some foam where the fabric is so the part below does not melt. That might also be the best way to build a house also, install some transfer tubes and some foam laid on the ground and the house on top of that and the frozen ground is stable year round. Trailers could be the same, insulate the skirting (earth berm would work) and the floor of the trailer and it will be a freezer year round so no insects under there and the need for a fridge and freezer is eliminated.

Dried peat must have some sort of R-Value.

Mixing flax straw and adding a small amount of cement powder would result in something (soil cement) almost waterproof and the straw adds strength. The ballast rock should be caged in wire like in all places where fast moving water is possible


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Churchill
The port is iced in for much of the year and is accessible only between late July and early November.[4] For example, in 2010 the shipping season was July 28 to Nov. 2.[6] Shallow waters also restrict its development as an ocean port. Despite these restrictions the port remains useful for shipping grain and other bulk cargos because shipping by rail costs several times as much, per ton, as shipping by sea.



If grain is shipped that is not a cargo that brings any goods to the Communities if it is shipped out. There are enough grain terminals for export. Perhaps the storage can be used for what the residents in the north can use and local boats can do the deliveries. Grain might be better than ready made flour so some easy way to grind it at home with something electric powered means there is no waste, or less waste which is almost as good.
I still think feeding fish is possible on a commercial scale summer and winter because no foreign boats can sneak in and take the fish. That is another use for the grain storage.


If aluminum rail cars $exist$ how about composite fiber ones right down to the wheels holding a titanium contact ring. At what point can they be made to have electric drive wheels so the heavy engine is not needed?


The rail line looks like only solid ground so the power lines should be run above the trains on their own tower and that just begs for ultra high speed electric people movers should anyone ever want to get to Winnipeg in a hurry, ever, being the key word.
 
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spilledthebeer

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Just is case you missed it, modern ships can actually navigate at night. But here you go,dumbass.



Why Canada should consider shipping oil by Hudson Bay by tanker rather than overland pipeline


https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/oil-via-hudson-bay


This is the polar bear capital of the world, but the snow has gone

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-canada-hudson-bay-no-snow-sea-ice-polar-bear


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PITY THE POOR LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Blathering on about Port of Churchill- in DESPERATE HOPE of hiding the reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Churchill is a TYPICAL CDN municipality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL Cdn municipalities are STONY BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Churchill can no more afford to maintain the rail link- than Toronto can afford that new subway they so desperately NEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is the face of BANKRUPTCY that LIE-berals have driven us to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Churchill municipal govt, Ontari-owe provincial govt and Our idiot Boy Justin and his federal govt all sat down to play liars poker!!!!!!!!!!


The loser gets to pay the lions share of restoring the Churchill rail link!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better get used to this kind of govt squabbling- it is a big part of being bankrupt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wynne-bag LIE-berals drove Ontari-owe into world record breaking levels of debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin is now driving the ENTIRE COUNTRY into record breaking levels of debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As I said back in summer 2015- Our idiot Boy in engaged in a larger, more costly, more destructive version of the old Bob Rae/NDP plan to make Ontari-owe rich with BORROWED money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I also predicted that of Our idiot Boy was elected- he would perform a magic trick and make ALL our jobs and money disappear!


I also predicted that because Our idiot Boy does not understand just how his "trick" works- he will NOT be able to make the jobs or money re-appear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!