What Happens After Death?
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I would say humans and animals both use the logic and trial and error methods. The difference would be that our ability for communication is superior in it's detail, and we have the added advantage of opposable thumbs to build things to overcome whatever the problem to be solved happened to be. Animals OTOH simply learned from it and adapted with what skills they inherently possessed. (I doubt a squirrel, for example, initially knew it could use it's front paws to hold a nut while it munched away)
Okeedokee; Your god didn't die for your sins, his kid did.
:lol:
After being force fed religious drivel during my formative years it's sometimes hard to pass up a cheap shot, my bad. For what it's worth I find it hard to believe that any one religious sect got it right seeing as each one was tailored to the people it served.
After being force fed religious drivel during my formative years it's sometimes hard to pass up a cheap shot, my bad. For what it's worth I find it hard to believe that any one religious sect got it right seeing as each one was tailored to the people it served.
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Christians (along with all religions, imo) used their religion to reflect their general moral and societal beliefs. Proof that a religion is tailored to it's followers is the new push to modernise the catholic faith. A greater role of women in the clergy, gay marriage in some cases, the notion a priest be allowed to take a wife...That type of thing.
I'm not saying it's bad to do so, just that with all these different beliefs, it's impossible to say one is correct while the others are wrong particularly when religion changes. Look at something like adultery, as it becomes more societally accepted, the church doesn't harp on about it and parishioners won't be calling for the eternal damnation of offenders regardless of the fact it's one of the ten top rules of christianity.
Christians (along with all religions, imo) used their religion to reflect their general moral and societal beliefs. Proof that a religion is tailored to it's followers is the new push to modernise the catholic faith. A greater role of women in the clergy, gay marriage in some cases, the notion a priest be allowed to take a wife...That type of thing.
I'm not saying it's bad to do so, just that with all these different beliefs, it's impossible to say one is correct while the others are wrong particularly when religion changes. Look at something like adultery, as it becomes more societally accepted, the church doesn't harp on about it and parishioners won't be calling for the eternal damnation of offenders regardless of the fact it's one of the ten top rules of christianity.
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http://members.aol.com/MercStG/SavioursPage1.html
http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/god-myth.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap1.shtml
Bubble said:
http://members.aol.com/MercStG/SavioursPage1.html
http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/god-myth.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap1.shtml
Re: RE: What Happens After Death?
Virgin births?? Saviour? Chosen one?
:lol: Has anyone thought of adding Annikin Skywalker to the list.
Vanni Fucci said:
Virgin births?? Saviour? Chosen one?
:lol: Has anyone thought of adding Annikin Skywalker to the list.
I think not said:
powerful topic......and powerful , thoughtful post.
One might go so far as to say that consciousness is an energy form. All things are some form of "energy"......many of which are not (still) defined. So this begs the question: what energy form does consciousness convert to??? So many assume that the consciousness we perceive in life is the same as the one (if there is one) after demise. Consciousness and awareness would factor in here. Reincarnation has an interesting side concept to it as one can conclude that the consciousness of one person is converted into a consciousness of another......therefore obliterating the consciousness -awareness- of the original person.-being.
Some speak in terms of "soul"......but is not "soul" a form of consciousness.?? Consciousness -is awareness -is thought. Thoughts are "energy" too.
reality is that to date , no one KNOWS what happens after the transition from this life. (assuming there is a transition in the consciousness (or some level we have not defined yet)
very thought provoking.
( we know what happens to the physical aspect (body) ....and that is a dynamic process of physical change. Matter into different matter (energy into different energy- one could say)
Catholic clergy were married until about 800 years ago when a pope got it into his head that they shouldn't be, for some reason. Hardly a modern idea.
I've come very close to death a couple times, and don't actually know why I survived. Didn't have an NDE and really don't want to until my time comes.
I did know someone who had an NDE, and she said she subsequently had no fear of death.
Might I suggest something? Before you can answer a question of what comes after perhaps you should answer the question of what came before?
The most modern hypothesis on the universe is that it didn't start and it won't end - that it is forever.
Why should we EVER have any curiosity about "other life in the universe" when there couldn't possibly be any way of ever contacting it? That the immense beyond calculation chances of life ever starting here on Earth was so fantastically remote that if it ever happened anywhere else in this universe that it would be billions and billions of light years away. That one of the ONLY immutable rules of this universe is that nothing could ever travel more than a tiny percentage of the speed of light? The FASTEST vehicle we have sent out of this solar system is traveling at some 30,000 mph.
The closest star is Proxima Centuri at 4.4 light years. That means that it would take some 35 million years to reach? And the kids would be asking, "Are we there yet?" all the way.
All this being what it is shouldn't we consider that if the universe is eternal that perhaps as most religions proclaim that we are all small parts of the infinity of God. And while from dirt we come and dirt we return that is still a part of God that will give us eternal recycling.
The most modern hypothesis on the universe is that it didn't start and it won't end - that it is forever.
Why should we EVER have any curiosity about "other life in the universe" when there couldn't possibly be any way of ever contacting it? That the immense beyond calculation chances of life ever starting here on Earth was so fantastically remote that if it ever happened anywhere else in this universe that it would be billions and billions of light years away. That one of the ONLY immutable rules of this universe is that nothing could ever travel more than a tiny percentage of the speed of light? The FASTEST vehicle we have sent out of this solar system is traveling at some 30,000 mph.
The closest star is Proxima Centuri at 4.4 light years. That means that it would take some 35 million years to reach? And the kids would be asking, "Are we there yet?" all the way.
All this being what it is shouldn't we consider that if the universe is eternal that perhaps as most religions proclaim that we are all small parts of the infinity of God. And while from dirt we come and dirt we return that is still a part of God that will give us eternal recycling.
Since I'm an environmentally friendly person, I'm getting cremated, dust is better than taking up space in the earth. My body could have been better looking, but what the H#el I don't what it to be eaten by maggots anyway.
What Happens After Death?
They wrap you up in big white sheets
and cover you from head to feet.
They put you in a big black box
And cover you with dirt and rocks.
All goes well for about a week,
Until your coffin begins to leak.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout,
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
They eat the jelly between your toes.
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes.
Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus pours out like whipping cream.
You'll spread it on a slice of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead.
They wrap you up in big white sheets
and cover you from head to feet.
They put you in a big black box
And cover you with dirt and rocks.
All goes well for about a week,
Until your coffin begins to leak.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout,
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
They eat the jelly between your toes.
A big green worm with rolling eyes
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes.
Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus pours out like whipping cream.
You'll spread it on a slice of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead.
I think that after you die you are either reborn in Trump's America (hell) or in Canada (heaven). Right now, the landlord of America is trying to evict a bunch of people to make room for more sinners. Canada is accepting them because they paid their due in hell and are gravitating to a higher plain.
No, no ... not Heaven and Hell.
Canada is still Bedford Falls and the US long since turned into Potterville.
Even at the very centre, people appologize to the lamp standards that they just walked into.