Well, today is the Liberal/NDP Non-Coalition Coalition Budget Day!

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Couldn't find the thread with recent postal work stoppage news but am thinking now they almost have the balance they are looking for with 1/3 less employees on a rotating picket line. Eventually the Union will figure it out. Most important is the Union reps continue to be paid in full. It's a dying job so may as well milk it for what you can get is what I see.
 
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Couldn't find the thread with recent postal work stoppage news but am thinking now they almost have the balance they are looking for with 1/3 less employees on a rotating picket line. Eventually the Union will figure it out. Most important is the Union reps continue to be paid in full. It's a dying job so may as well milk it for what you can get is what I see.
Sad but true…anyway…
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Elbows elbowing. The Liberal government’s budget, unveiled Tuesday after months of delay, forecasts a $78.3-billion deficit for fiscal 2025-26, the third highest (all three from Liberal Governments) in Canadian history and the highest ever in a non-pandemic year. The projected deficit is within the range of non-government estimates from recent months…which isn’t great.
The budget also revealed new government forecasts that call for modest dips in Canada’s annual deficits over the next four years, but a new $320-billion mountain of debt that will be added to the national balance sheet before the end of the decade on top of a decade of Trudeau.
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Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne said this budget marked a “generational investment” so that Canada could supercharge its economy (Which means literally nothing). The deficit forecasts, he said, are “in the range people expected.” (???) What people?
Overall, Ottawa has now accumulated 1.27-trillion in debt, almost half of it within the last five years. With Tuesday’s deficit forecast for this year, the federal government is now on track to have amassed $593.1-billion in debt over the last five years, or 46.7 per cent of the total debt from throughout Canadian history. More than half of that debt, or $327.7-billion of it, can be traced back to the fiscal year 2020-21 that included the start of the pandemic and the various policies that followed.

Canada’s debt will cost taxpayers an estimated $53.4-billion this year in interest payments. Those interest costs are expected to climb to $76.1-billion by the end of the decade as the government expects it will add to the national debt by about 25 per cent over that period.

Tuesday’s budget also formalized the government’s move to begin separating day-to-day operational spending and capital investments, those expenditures geared more towards boosting long-term growth. 🤔 Carney has said that this budgeting change will make it easier to distinguish between regular spending on services and “investments.”😉

Critics, however, say the move was designed to allow the government to claim that it has balanced the operational side of its books within three years, with the focus no longer on the actual full budget.
 
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Ron in Regina

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I wonder what this cost?
I’m sure this guy’s constituents didn’t elect him as a liberal MP, but maybe there’s an ambassadorship after Parliament for him now, etc…?
Well, that escalated quickly…
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1762303376523.jpeg This move puts the Liberals two seats shy of a majority government and being able to pass their budget without opposition support.

Crazily, this is November 4th, and the above story is dated November 5th, so maybe this isn’t suppose to be “decided” upon until tomorrow?

Deputy Conservative leader Melissa Lantsman said that d'Entremont "made his choice" not to do the job Conservative voters sent him to Ottawa for…seven months ago…
 

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Well, that escalated quickly…
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View attachment 31883 This move puts the Liberals two seats shy of a majority government and being able to pass their budget without opposition support.

Crazily, this is November 4th, and the above story is dated November 5th, so maybe this isn’t suppose to be “decided” upon until tomorrow?

Deputy Conservative leader Melissa Lantsman said that d'Entremont "made his choice" not to do the job Conservative voters sent him to Ottawa for…seven months ago…
Caching caching caching . Their is money in Parliment .
 

Ron in Regina

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Caching caching caching . Their is money in Parliment .
This is the second time in one year that the tabling of a major Liberal government financial document has been overshadowed by an MP’s resignation. In December 2024, the Trudeau government’s fall economic statement was eclipsed by then-Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland’s shocking stepping down.

d’Entremont resigned by letter to Poilievre shortly after he made a stunning revelation to media outlet Politico: that he was “considering” crossing the floor to the Liberals and would make a decision “in the coming days.The MP did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
I wonder what the going rate of “instant consideration” is going for?
 

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This is the second time in one year that the tabling of a major Liberal government financial document has been overshadowed by an MP’s resignation. In December 2024, the Trudeau government’s fall economic statement was eclipsed by then-Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland’s shocking stepping down.

d’Entremont resigned by letter to Poilievre shortly after he made a stunning revelation to media outlet Politico: that he was “considering” crossing the floor to the Liberals and would make a decision “in the coming days.The MP did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
I wonder what the going rate of “instant consideration” is going for?
Ambassador., special envoy . Some kind of gravy only available to the hoi polloi
 
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Ron in Regina

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If the Carney Liberals were truly concerned about acting in the best interests of Canadians, it should have been relatively easy to reach across the aisle to the Conservatives and forge a bipartisan consensus. This would have shown the world that Canadians are united in a common purpose and would have the potential to truly move the country forward.

Instead, they have given us yet another in a long line of big government, big spending budgets that will burden Canadians for generations to come, and may even destabilize the minority government, further delaying the hard work that needs to be done.
(YouTube & PM Carney oversells and under delivers federal budget)
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(YouTube & The Front Bench breaks down the federal budget and what it all means)
 

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If the Carney Liberals were truly concerned about acting in the best interests of Canadians, it should have been relatively easy to reach across the aisle to the Conservatives and forge a bipartisan consensus. This would have shown the world that Canadians are united in a common purpose and would have the potential to truly move the country forward.

Instead, they have given us yet another in a long line of big government, big spending budgets that will burden Canadians for generations to come, and may even destabilize the minority government, further delaying the hard work that needs to be done.
(YouTube & PM Carney oversells and under delivers federal budget)
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What it means is that Canada is beyond hope .
 

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$50+ billion in interest payments per year and yet our politicians rank in top 1% of income earners.

Also don't see it as fair if the debt is split equally amongst the provinces and territories. There comes a point when people have to realize they are in a bad deal and get out. Takes us back to the 350 years per civilization theory.
 

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Late on Tuesday, Sebastian Skamski, former director of media relations in the Opposition Leader’s office, posted on X, stating: “Just 40 days ago, Chris d’Entremont said his constituents were hurting under Mark Carney’s government & warned that another massive Liberal deficit would make things worse.
“Canadians are hurting. Families are being forced to cut deeply into their grocery budgets just to get by. And, frankly, that leaves me a little bit angry and a little bit sad.”

Canada is a wealthy country, d’Entremont said, but he suggested that under the Liberal government it’s being mismanaged.

“Since I was first elected in 2019, the cost of living has skyrocketed. And families (in his riding have been) struggling. We warned the Liberals that out-of-control spending and massive deficits were irresponsible. But, of course, they didn’t listen. And now after six months under a new prime minister who promised financial discipline, Canadians are still waiting.

But that’s sooo almost 6 weeks ago so…?

The prime minister said he’d be judged by the costs at the grocery store, states d’Entremont. “Well, Mr. Speaker, Canadians are judging him, and they are not impressed. Instead of delivering relief, this government delayed its budget.

At that point in time, a federal budget was still in the offing, noted d’Entremont. “We haven’t seen a budget in a year and a half. Why? Because (Carney) is projecting an over $92 billion deficit. That’s a monstrous, irresponsible burden on future generations.

“We’ll hear about “a generational investment. But what it really is, is a generational debt that my kids, their kids and their kids’ kids are going to have to try to pay in one way or another. That causes inflation and extra costs to future generations.

He went on to say: “People find themselves pinched. They are having to make tough decisions on whether to feed their children, heat their homes or buy the things that school requires, and then get their kids into sports, if they are lucky. Unfortunately, the food basket is far too expensive. In my riding, food banks are overwhelmed, and I am sure food banks across Nova Scotia are experiencing the same thing. Food bank usage is up 142% across Canada. While the government claims to be putting money back into taxpayers’ pockets, it continues to take it away through many other means.

“I urge members to vote with us. Let us work together. We hear a lot of that here in the House of Commons, especially from the government side, where members say that we should just work with them. A number of suggestions have come from the opposition side, whether from the Conservatives, the Bloc or other opposition members, for finding ways to work with the government, but the government continues to close its ears and not listen to the good ideas that come from opposition members.”

Then the day the liberals finally present a budget, seven months after being elected, this dude crosses the floor and joins them with their $80 billion deficit?
 

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The House of Commons will hold its first budget-related vote Thursday evening, which the Liberal government says will be a confidence matter.
Canadians are not headed to the polls just yet. The Bloc Québécois and the NDP have said they will be voting with the Liberals — ensuring a majority — in the first of three confidence votes on Prime Minister Mark Carney’s first budget on Thursday evening.
More specifically, they will be voting against the Conservative sub-amendment which calls on the House of Commons to reject the budget because it did not bring down the deficit to the promised $42 billion in the last fiscal update and failed to include a plan to build more oil and gas pipelines.🤔

Interim NDP Leader Don Davies said his party will not be supporting the Conservatives’ motion because it calls for tens of billions more in cuts to public spending.

There will be a second confidence vote on Friday on the Bloc’s amendment to the budget, this time, which calls for MPs to reject it because it does not do enough for Quebec, in the party’s opinion, and does not have a clear plan to fight climate change.

The Bloc’s House leader, Christine Normandin, said her party cannot support the Conservatives’ motion as it not only scraps her own party’s demands but it supports “oil and pipelines.”🙄

The main motion on the budget is expected to be voted on as early as mid-November, as budgetary matters are automatically considered to be a matter of confidence.

The Liberals find themselves with 170 MPs — two seats short of a majority of 343 seats in total after former Conservative MP Chris d’Entremont crossed the floor to the Liberals. It remains unclear if the NDP or individual MPs will be supporting their budget or abstaining.
 

Ron in Regina

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Davies said NDP MPs have still not made up their minds on the Bloc amendment to be voted Friday, nor have they decided how they will cast their vote on the budget itself.😉

The Conservatives and the Bloc have already declared that they will be voting against the budget in its current form, as did Green Party Leader Elizabeth May this week.

Then Edmonton Conservative MP Matt Jeneroux has resigned, in another blow to party leader Pierre Poilievre. Mr. Jeneroux told The Globe and Mail he is not crossing the floor to the Liberals, but in a statement, did not provide a reason for his resignation.
Following the resignation letter, Poilievre thanked Jeneroux for his “decade of service” and said he wished his family “all the best following your decision to step down as a Member of Parliament next spring.”