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*sheds a tear for the Flames and his beloved Isles*
OK, on to my hated list.
Edmonton out... check
Toronto out... check
Rangers out... TBD
Habs out... TBD
What does it say when 3 of my 4 hated teams are Canadian based or does it mean anything at all?
OK, on to my hated list.
Edmonton out... check
Toronto out... check
Rangers out... TBD
Habs out... TBD
What does it say when 3 of my 4 hated teams are Canadian based or does it mean anything at all?
toronto earned our hate, I love the habs, were my first
hockey love when I was little, can't desert them now.
rangers have a wacky coach, and without gaborik, they
would have been much lower, wish he had gone somewhere
else, he's been my favourite players for some time, now
he's on a team I can't possibly cheer for, I'm torn.
it says you see clearly, as least with one team.
what do you think will happen in calgary now, are the sutters gone, along with the president, will they clean
house?
house?
I don't know what will happen in Calgary now. A lot of people (me included) thought Brian Sutter got a raw deal when he was fired as coach a couple years ago... and that may have translated into more leeway for Darryl as GM. I don't think Darryl has done a bad job, but he hasn't been a great GM either. As for Brent, a coach has to deal with the talent he has, which in some ways was lacking, especially when it came to scoring punch. I'll say the Flames have definately tried to get some offensive guys in the mix (like Jokinen, Camaleri and Tanguay) but they just haven't performed when they've been there. Who do you blame for a lack of chemistry?
I think Brent has one more season to try and get things going or he'll be gone and it could very well be the end for Darryl too.
I think Brent has one more season to try and get things going or he'll be gone and it could very well be the end for Darryl too.
Camellari was a good player in calgary, he is a natural
goal scorer, and also is doing that in Montreal. Not sure
why calgary let him walk, I guess calgary couldn't or
wouldn't pay him the big salary, and he was a free agent.
tanguay and jokinen were a dissapointment.
I don't even remember Brian sutter coaching the flames,
and he was with st. louis, and other teams too.
The flames don't have a first or second round pick this
spring, and they also have no money under the cap. They
have kipprisoff and iginla to use as trade bait, but what
good would that do, they might get something good for them,
but then 'they' would be gone, and kiprisoff is the one
player who has saved the team from being the worst team in
the league, behind edmonton, who at least can see some
light at the end of the tunnel, with good young players
and good players coming off of injuries next training camp.
Calgary doesn't have any of that.
Will be interesting to watch how they manage the team over
the next few months, and what changes they make. How would
you like to be a 'new' general manager, taking over the flames, his hands would be tied, no money and no good
young draft picks, then if he doesn't succeed he would be
trashed for 'not' doing anything, I wouldn't want the job.
if play offs started tonight:
chicago-colorado
san jose - l.a.
vancouver - detroit
phoenix - nashville
washington - philly
new jersey - boston
buffalo - montreal
pittsburg - ottawa
chicago-colorado
san jose - l.a.
vancouver - detroit
phoenix - nashville
washington - philly
new jersey - boston
buffalo - montreal
pittsburg - ottawa
I've always loved iginla, he is an honest hockey player.
He is gritty, tough, and a pure team guy, but not a flashy
dan guy, who can stick handle through everybody, and look
fancy.
He needs lots of contact and board work and grinding and
hard work, he thrives on that.
He also needs a real line to play on, 3 guys who have
chemistry, and work off of each other, like the twins and
burrows.
He has a great shot, and he's a very good skater, BUT
he is in his 30's now, and probably over his very best
years.
I wonder too what calgary will do with him, they need
draft picks in the worst way, so maybe they will make
a trade which will give them those players and a ready
made player as well.
He's probably one of the best captains in the NHL, pure
team person, upbeat, enthusiastic and energetic.
Maybe a team like l.a. which has lots of young players,
and cap room, and a player like him would be like icing
on the cake.
Iggy is as legitimate first line winger as there is in the league. He is the premier power forward in the NHL right now. He's starting to get a little older but he is still the package: can skate, score, has plenty of toughness and leadership skills. He is also a classy player and a great ambassador for the community. I'm proud to claim him as an Alberta boy.
As for moving him a) I'm not sure if they can without his consent (no-movement clauses... compounded by the fact that he had the option to get out before his last signing and chose to take a bit less than he might have earned on the UFA market to stay in Calgary) and b) the city might rebel. He is the Face of the Flames and much loved as much for his off ice involvement as for his on ice performance (or was before I moved last June). Kipper might be more readily moved but is the market going to yield enough for the Flames to have to go back into search/development mode for a new goaltender?
ovetchkin has just scored his 50th goal, and has 3 pts
in the game against atlanta so far.
he is now ahead of h. sedin, in points, and also in goal total, hope
someone beats him, either stamkos or crosby, don't think henrik
can do it now, for total points, we only have one game left, unless he gets
about 5 pts against calgary.
in the game against atlanta so far.
he is now ahead of h. sedin, in points, and also in goal total, hope
someone beats him, either stamkos or crosby, don't think henrik
can do it now, for total points, we only have one game left, unless he gets
about 5 pts against calgary.
OK I'll bite, how did Toronto earn your hate? Unless you're from Ottawa, then I can understand. :lol:
by awarding themselves the title 'center of the universe', and then trying to live the life, no not from ottawa, from
the west coast where we are pretty well ignored by toronto
hockey world, including the NHL, unless of course we do
something controvesial, (in their eyes),then they blow it right out of
proporation, hence, the referee blunder against burrows,
and mcLean doing the dirty deed on tv, exaggerating burrows
behavior during his career. Toronto lived up to their
swell headiness yet again.
Toronto earned my hate through a combination of mismanagement and the media projection that we were all supposed to care about the Leafs. I grew up in the 70s and remember Canada having 3 teams: the Leafs, Habs and Canucks. The Leafs were bad, even thought they had some decent players, the management of the team under Harold Ballard was pathetic. The Habs were always contenders (and won 4 Cups) with guys like LaFleur, Robinson, Dryden et al. The Canucks were never heard from because their home games started at 10 or 11 pm EST, so HNIC avoided them like the plague.
The years passed, Harold Ballard died and the Leafs management changed but still sucked... and still got the lion's share of press from HNIC and later TSN. The Habs fell from grace, even though their fans were as arrogant as ever (talking hockey with most Habs fans is like talking politics with SJP or Socrates in my experience). Quebec, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary and eventually Ottawa all got NHL teams, that joined Vancouver on the list of Canadian teams that were better than the Leafs and still were ignored by the Toronto based media. Other Edmonton and Calgary won 6 Stanley Cups and went to the finals 8 times in the 80s (add in Vancouver and it was 10 trips to the finals in 15 years for the 3 westernmost teams in Canada) yet still the Leafs and Habs were the ones always on the national broadcasts.
And on the rare occasions the Leafs crawled from the depths of oblivion, they were hailed as "Canada's Team". Once I started to get a little older, I started understanding that most of the players, even on American teams were still Canadians (and in a lot fo cases the "American" teams had more Canadian content than their "Canadian" counterparts), so the whole idea of Canada's team started being a little silly, especially one that was one of the worst run franchises in professional sports.
I'm not claiming to be entirely objective: I know the Leafs sold out through the worst years of suckaciousness, earning pots of cash for their undeserving ownership. I know there are more hockey fans in southern Ontario than there are people in my home of Alberta. That still doesn't mean I have to respect an inferior product presented by a group of clowns that masquerade as one of the most prestigious franchises in our sport.
I've got to agree with a lot of what you have said. A good read is 'Leafs Abomination' by Feschuk and Grange. You'll find it informative and entertaining.
Unfortunately, it rubs me the wrong way, but I hope Toronto beats Montreal tonight so they don't make the playoffs...
lol the first time I was aware of any center of the universe reference was when I moved away from toronto. Here's news for you, the only people who think of Toronto as the center of the universe are people who aren't from there.
No, its usually Torontonians who had to leave for greener pastures and look at the past through rose-tinted glasses.
That's good grounds for mockery, Leaf fans being first in line, but hate?
Ignored by the Toronto media? You think people in Toronto don't know who Gretzky is? Leafs and Habs are on national broadcasts because they get the ratings....so hate the CBC, that has nothing to do with Toronto.
Edit: As for Ottawa, they had 4 chances to demonstrate how much "better than the Leafs" they were. Hmmm. :lol:
Hailed as Canada's team by who? Certainly not by the Leafs or their fans. Again your bitterness seems misdirected.
Not entirely, no. :lol:
You would fit right in with Leaf fans there. :smile:
I don't think they masquerade, they really quite are. Much to the chagrin of Leaf fans more than anyone, the Leafs franchise is a cash cow.
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