Wars sending U.S. into ruin

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U.S. President Barack Obama calls the $3.8-trillion US budget he just sent to Congress a major step in restoring America’s economic health.
In fact, it’s another potent fix given to a sick patient deeply addicted to the dangerous drug — debt.
More empires have fallen because of reckless finances than invasion. The latest example was the Soviet Union, which spent itself into ruin by buying tanks.
Washington’s deficit (the difference between spending and income from taxes) will reach a vertiginous $1.6 trillion US this year. The huge sum will be borrowed, mostly from China and Japan, to which the U.S. already owes $1.5 trillion. Debt service will cost $250 billion.
To spend $1 trillion, one would have had to start spending $1 million daily soon after Rome was founded and continue for 2,738 years until today.
Obama’s total military budget is nearly $1 trillion. This includes Pentagon spending of $880 billion. Add secret black programs (about $70 billion); military aid to foreign nations like Egypt, Israel and Pakistan; 225,000 military “contractors” (mercenaries and workers); and veterans’ costs. Add $75 billion (nearly four times Canada’s total defence budget) for 16 intelligence agencies with 200,000 employees.
The Afghanistan and Iraq wars ($1 trillion so far), will cost $200-250 billion more this year, including hidden and indirect expenses. Obama’s Afghan “surge” of 30,000 new troops will cost an additional $33 billion — more than Germany’s total defence budget.
No wonder U.S. defence stocks rose after Peace Laureate Obama’s “austerity” budget.
Military and intelligence spending relentlessly increase as unemployment heads over 10% and the economy bleeds red ink. America has become the Sick Man of the Western Hemisphere, an economic cripple like the defunct Ottoman Empire.
The Pentagon now accounts for half of total world military spending. Add America’s rich NATO allies and Japan, and the figure reaches 75%.
China and Russia combined spend only a paltry 10% of what the U.S. spends on defence.
There are 750 U.S. military bases in 50 nations and 255,000 service members stationed abroad, 116,000 in Europe, nearly 100,000 in Japan and South Korea.
Military spending gobbles up 19% of federal spending and at least 44% of tax revenues. During the Bush administration, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars — funded by borrowing — cost each American family more than $25,000.
Like Bush, Obama is paying for America’s wars through supplemental authorizations ­— putting them on the nation’s already maxed-out credit card. Future generations will be stuck with the bill.
This presidential and congressional jiggery-pokery is the height of public dishonesty.
America’s wars ought to be paid for through taxes, not bookkeeping fraud.
If U.S. taxpayers actually had to pay for the Afghan and Iraq wars, these conflicts would end in short order.
America needs a fair, honest war tax.
The U.S. clearly has reached the point of imperial overreach. Military spending and debt-servicing are cannibalizing the U.S. economy, the real basis of its world power. Besides the late U.S.S.R., the U.S. also increasingly resembles the dying British Empire in 1945, crushed by immense debts incurred to wage the Second World War, unable to continue financing or defending the imperium, yet still imbued with imperial pretensions.
It is increasingly clear the president is not in control of America’s runaway military juggernaut. Sixty years ago, the great President Dwight Eisenhower, whose portrait I keep by my desk, warned Americans to beware of the military-industrial complex. Six decades later, partisans of permanent war and world domination have joined Wall Street’s money lenders to put America into thrall.
Increasing numbers of Americans are rightly outraged and fearful of runaway deficits. Most do not understand their political leaders are also spending their nation into ruin through unnecessary foreign wars and a vainglorious attempt to control much of the globe — what neocons call “full spectrum dominance.”
If Obama really were serious about restoring America’s economic health, he would demand military spending be slashed, quickly end the Iraq and Afghan wars and break up the nation’s giant Frankenbanks.

Eric Margolis
 
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Olive: Will Greece set off 'global debt bomb'?

The inevitable "sovereign debt panic" finally struck last week, causing severe one-day drops in stock markets from New York to London to Toronto on Thursday.
Ostensibly, the epicentre of the crisis is Greece, in danger of defaulting on its debt payments to worldwide holders of its government bonds, or sovereign debt.
But the fear about state defaults quickly spread to Spain, Portugal and Ireland, fiscal train wrecks that together with Greece now go by the unfortunate acronym PIGS.
Even then, the scope of a potential second global financial crisis so soon after the credit crisis of 2008-09 goes far beyond the euro zone, the 16 nations sharing a common currency, the euro.
Last week's dramatics could have been far worse. And they may yet manifest themselves in an ugly fashion in weeks to come if the euro-zone countries don't rescue what Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou described last week as "the weakest link in the euro zone."
Greece accounts for just 3 per cent of the euro-zone economy. The crisis in the cradle of Western civilization serves merely as proxy for government over-indebtedness everywhere.
Only a few months ago, a Dubai on the edge of default had to be bailed out by oil-rich neighbour Abu Dhabi. A debt-strapped Argentina recently tried and failed to pay debts by raiding its central-bank treasury.
Greece's debt-to-GDP ratio is an eye-popping 95 per cent. But then, the U.S. isn't far behind at 84 per cent. (The Canadian ratio is estimated at 35.5 per cent in the current fiscal year.) Greece's deficit-to-GDP ratio is an alarming 13 per cent. But then, Britain isn't far behind at 12.6 per cent.
Just last month, California-based PIMCO, the world's biggest bond investor, warned that Britain's bonds ware "resting on a bed of nitroglycerine." And last week, Moody's, the U.S. bond-rating agency, warned the U.S. of a looming downgrade that would strip America of its coveted Triple-A bond rating, which would push up borrowing costs.
The world is awash in potentially unsustainable debt.
The U.S. looms largest. President Barack Obama just tabled a budget that projects a doubling in America's national debt, to $28 trillion (U.S.), by decade's end. That's twice the size of the U.S. economy.
Few nations emulated Canada's example of 11 consecutive budget surpluses heading into the Great Recession. And so the necessary stimulus spending to inject life into paralyzed economies worldwide has inflated already burdensome debt loads accumulated by less prudent jurisdictions than Canada, Australasia and a handful of others.
To cover their stimulus-related and other debt obligations, national governments are expected to borrow a staggering $4.5 trillion (U.S.) this year. That's almost triple the average for advanced economies over the previous five years.
Any hint that certain issuers of those government bonds and other borrowings are flirting with deadbeat status will jack up the interest rates bond-buyers will demand. That could easily lift the general level of interest rates worldwide. Which in turn would raise the cost of capital for businesses and individuals. And that would be a major impediment to economic recovery at a time when central banks are trying to keep their key lending rates at or near zero to encourage investment and job creation.
In order not to set off this "global debt bomb," as Forbes describes the plight on its latest cover, the EU and the better-off EU nations haven't much choice but to rescue Greece. Recalling how the failure of just one New York brokerage, in September 2008, turned a local banking problem into a full-blown global crisis, EU officials now regard Greece as "Europe's Lehman Brothers."
A coordinated EU bailout of Greece, spearheaded by Germany, would defend the value of the euro. It would bolster an EU whose reputation would otherwise suffer from having abandoned one of its members. And it could stave off a currency and debt crisis that would likely be a worldwide spectre.
Indeed, it's difficult to imagine any other scenario – repugnant though it is, especially to the fiscally austere Germans – than to "reward" a fellow EU member for its chronic incompetence in managing its national finances.
Ever since the Lehman collapse, Europeans have been a little smug about how an inadequately supervised Wall Street tipped Europe and most of the rest of the world into the worst economic slump since the Dirty Thirties.
Now the tables are turned. For a decade the EU gave Greece a pass on its consistent failure to come even close to meeting the EU's own benchmarks for budgetary prudence. If there is to be a second global economic crisis, its origins will be traced to European laxity, not asleep-at-the-switch U.S. financial regulators.
In Athens last week for a conference, Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz, a liberal economist, counselled against the austerity measures the Greek government has just imposed – including wage freezes, pension cutbacks and budget slashing across government departments. He cavilled against the "deficit fetish" for which the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank are notorious.
The compelling counter-argument is that global markets aren't as rational as Nobel laureates. They need assurance now that Greece will not become an insolvent Iceland. And that the EU will backstop Spain, Portugal, Ireland and any other EU member that has obligations outstanding to world banks, already undermined by losses on U.S. subprime, or junk, mortgages and other "toxic assets."
Even Stiglitz's fellow liberals on the Continent are insisting Greece "be helped with all the fiscal brutality" of which the EU is capable, as Germany's centre-left Suddeutsche Zeitung editorialized late last week. The EU "has taken the first step to putting the country under its control, and virtually deprive it of its sovereignty. This is the worst imaginable punishment for a nation."
And a necessary one, to preserve a still shaky world financial order.

David Olive

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Yep. Its insane. You can't have guns and butter. Make up your mind........

Raising taxes on the middle to upper classes would be a start.......spending cuts are absolutely essential.........

This can't go on.
 

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Yep. Its insane. You can't have guns and butter. Make up your mind........

Raising taxes on the middle to upper classes would be a start.......spending cuts are absolutely essential.........

This can't go on.

Problem is Colpy, Americans want these wars but never want to pay for them.

The problem is how to you tax people that are already up to their eyeballs in personal debt?

What a mess.

This precisely what Bin Laden wanted as well.
 

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A comment on the title...

"Sending" is the present progressive, I think the past would have been more apt! Sic transit gloria Americae.
 

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Problem is Colpy, Americans want these wars but never want to pay for them.

The problem is how to you tax people that are already up to their eyeballs in personal debt?

What a mess.

This precisely what Bin Laden wanted as well.

What goes around comes around. The yanks get what they deserve.
 

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What goes around comes around. The yanks get what they deserve.

I can say I see your point. But. In reality though, if everybody 'got what they deserved' what would you be doing right now? And should you 'get what you deserve' for the worst think you have ever done or the best thing you have ever done?
 

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The US is now on a march of folly. Imagine, trying to solve the problems of Asia. Attempting to bring democracy to backward, tradition minded peoples. What a hoot. lol

And they torture? Who knew?

The USA has enough military to disable any other army of the world with conventional weapons. If any resisted too hard well a quick 100 megaton nuke here or there should whip them into submission.

The point is that other than stuff like 9/11 there is nothing anyone can do to stop the USA from doing as they please. China, 1.2 billion? 1.2 billion fleshbots that could be eradicated for less than Iraq and Afghanistan costs in a year. Well I think you can see what I'm getting at here.
 

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The USA has enough military to disable any other army of the world with conventional weapons. If any resisted too hard well a quick 100 megaton nuke here or there should whip them into submission.

The point is that other than stuff like 9/11 there is nothing anyone can do to stop the USA from doing as they please. China, 1.2 billion? 1.2 billion fleshbots that could be eradicated for less than Iraq and Afghanistan costs in a year. Well I think you can see what I'm getting at here.

I always find it amusing when people regard the US military as omnipotent.:lol:

It's simply not true.
 

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I always find it amusing when people regard the US military as omnipotent.:lol:

It's simply not true.

Right. The US military has won very few large victories since WW2. Korea was a tie, Vietnam a loss, Iraq a tie at best, and Afghanistan another tie at best. You don't make the playoffs with this record. Sure there was a small victory in Granada (lol), but strategically the US is in decline big time here.
 

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Right. The US military has won very few large victories since WW2. Korea was a tie, Vietnam a loss, Iraq a tie at best, and Afghanistan another tie at best. You don't make the playoffs with this record. Sure there was a small victory in Granada (lol), but strategically the US is in decline big time here.

Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been won and how many more trillions and lives will it take?

Granada? Like knocking over a fruit stand, 26 battleships and everyone aboard received a medal....what a frickin joke!:roll::lol::roll:
 

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Iraq and Afghanistan haven't been won and how many more trillions and lives will it take?

Granada? Like knocking over a fruit stand, 26 battleships and everyone aboard received a medal....what a frickin joke!:roll::lol::roll:


The question is, what are they trying to win in these places?

Granada. An exercise.