W.T.F. is being held responsible for the Phoenix Gov't payroll program?

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Is this going to be a hit on the taxpayer or on the incompetent S.O.B. responsible for it?
 

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Ah.............you must have heard the latest news from the Public Service Union calling for the government to scrap Phoenix and start all over. As I wrote once before, had they just re-hired the former techs who knew the system and all its many foibles, it would more than likely be running just fine now. But no, not this government - those were Harper era hires and they simply had to go and the liberals would fix things up just fine. NOT. The cost to taxpayers is enormous and still rising. There are still employees waiting for paychecks. There are employees who are receiving double or triple their normal salary. The waste just makes me sick and the inability after over two years to fix this mess lies right at the doorstep of this inept and dysfunctional liberal government.

Is this going to be a hit on the taxpayer or on the incompetent S.O.B. responsible for it?

The taxpayer you ninny :p:smile: It is always the taxpayer who picks up the government's tab and this one is a doozy.

Don Martin will be talking about this on Power Play today.
 

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Whenever I see confusion and money disappear in the same picture
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Until proven different, I always suspect the worst.
 

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Phoenix is one more example of conservatives being unable to walk and chew gum at the same time.
 

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Phoenix is one more example of conservatives being unable to walk and chew gum at the same time.

And yet another example of the liberals inability to affect change. Giving so much control to IBM was simply another poor decision among many.
 

Danbones

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A little clever code here and there and the money could be anywhere and no one will ever know
 

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Published: March 6, 2014, 6:29 pm
Updated: 4 years ago
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OTTAWA – Prime Minister Stephen Harper gave the highest award in the public service to the senior bureaucrat who led two major modernization projects – revamping the government’s archaic pay and pension systems – “on budget and on time.”

Harper gave this year’s Outstanding Achievement Award to Renee Jolicoeur, Public Works associate deputy minister, in a ceremony at Rideau Hall Thursday. It was a rare pat on the back for a public service that has been besieged with steady job and spending cuts and even jabs from political masters about its’ efficiency and productivity.

Harper said his government has been committed since 2006 to building “an even better public service” by focusing on customer service, efficiency and becoming more adaptable in a rapidly changing world. He said democracies and modern government don’t work unless “backed by an honest, capable, merit-based and politically neutral public service” and said Canada’s bureaucracy is a “shining example for the world.

“As prime minister I have been around the world on government business and I can tell you that the dedication, competence and integrity of our public service is unrivalled. The Canadian public service is indeed a critical asset, a comparative strength that this country possesses in a challenging and dangerous world,” he said.

Harper said this year’s award emphasizes the importance the government puts on improving government operations and services to Canadians, and Jolicoeur’s work and “unwavering commitment” was central to getting two of the government’s key IT projects off the ground.

Jolicoeur was the central player behind the overhaul and modernization of pay and pension systems for Canada’s public servants and pensioners, which has made Canada a leader in pension administration, financial reconciliation and using technology to improve government services and the way public servants work.

Harper said Jolicoeur made her mark in compensation administration, turning a “working museum” of 40-year-old IT systems, services and processes into centres that have become the model for other countries.

The pay project consolidated the separate pay operations in all departments in a new centre in Miramichi, N.B. When up and running, it is expected to save $80 million a year.

A similar project was rolled out for pensions services for Canada’s current and retired public servants in Shediac, N.B. It has been hailed as the world’s most modern and innovative system.

Jolicoeur, a career bureaucrat, joined the public service after graduating with a bachelor’s degree in geography. She steadily climbed the executive ranks in the Public Service Commission, Transport Canada and National Defence in finance, auditing and human resources. At Defence in the mid-1990s, she specialized in compensation management, a forte that proved critical in revamping the government’s outdated pay and pension systems.

“This kind of work almost never makes it to the headlines but it sure has made it to the bottom line,” said Harper.

The Conservatives have also made reining in compensation costs of its employees a top priority, introducing a slew of changes aimed at bringing their pay, pensions and benefits in line with those of the private sector.

kmay@ottawacitizen.com

What the award is:

The Outstanding Achievement Award is considered the most prestigious award for the public service since it was created in 1966 and given to its first recipient, Wilfrid B Lewis, senior vice-president of science at the Atomic Energy of Canada. A selection committee selects the winner based on innovation, leadership, excellence and focus on modernizing services

so why did Harper even want this stupid system?

Oh thats right - he got to fire 1,000 bureaucrats who used to get everyone paid on time.

What economist would turn down a $70 million a year saving for a mere billion or two?
 

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Yes, Harper started the mess and the Lieberals have made it even worse. The more money thrown at it the worse it seems to get. I believe this was/is an IBM solution and is pretty typical from them recently.

Yes, it was an IBM solution and they created the initial recommendation and then were there for the contract.

Phoenix creators helped build failed pay system's business case - Ottawa - CBC News

Perhaps they can improve the situation by retaining the Sears Canada executives which will be available come the new year.
 

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They al probably want to take some time off to spend those big bonuses first.
 

Danbones

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they could put the money off shore in a liebarrel approved tax haven
 

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When Ottawa first got an NHL team, civil servants kept wondering why they didn't get a paid 1 hour lunch in between the 2 fifteen minute breaks.