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Liverpool striker Suarez has a history of biting - and when you see his teeth it wouldn't come as much of a surprise (for some reason, when he bit Chiellini, Suarez went down holding his teeth).
In April last year he was charged with violent conduct by the FA and fined £300,000 for biting Chelsea defender Bratislav Ivanovic on the arm.
The day after, Manchester United won their 20th Premier League title by beating Aston Villa 3-0 at Old Trafford and, whilst celebrating, United defender Patrice Evra picked up a fake arm and bit it to mock Suarez, who was handed an eight-match ban after being found guilty of racially abusing Evra during a match at Anfield in October 2011.
And in 2010 Suarez was banned for seven games for biting PSV Eindhoven's Otman Bakkal while playing for Ajax.
So I fully expect Suarez to be banned from playing for Uruguay for the rest of the tournament at least.
Poor Chiellini - becoming the latest victim of the vampiric Suarez and then having his team knocked out of the World Cup at the Group Stage for the second successive tournament.
All 3 of Luis Suarez's Bites (Bakkal, Ivanovic and Chiellini) [NEW] [COMPILATION] - YouTube
Patrice Evra taking a dig at Luis Suarez: Biting inflatible hand - YouTube
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Already knew that, thanks. Also you'll note I didn't say anything about this match putting England out. But trust us, we all knew England was hopeless quite some time ago.
Yeah, from "sucks" to "still sucks." Sitting still and thinking you're going somewhere is as English a tradition as pig-innards and lousy coffee.
I also noticed that without the non-white players you and your BNP buddies hate so much, you couldn't field a side that could give San Marino a run for its money.
As they shuffle off into the sunset, like five or six losing sides since the last time you had the smell of a Cup. Oh, but this time it'll be DIFFERENT! Heh-heh.
From "sucks" to "still sucks." Didn't we cover this point?
They aren't tearing into this England side because they've become inured to losing. Fading powers don't have much choice.
Have you got any evidence for that or are you just being your usual racist and bigoted self?
You'll see how much of a "fading power" England are once the results of the new St George's Park start kicking in.
Plus, I'll say again: European teams tend to to badly at South American World Cups. It is something that has happened for a long time.
Uruguay's winning goal, that knocked Italy out of the tournament, was scored by a guy who shouldn't have even been playing. Diego Godin should have received a red card against England and, if he had, he would have been suspended for the Italy match.
The Atletico Madrid defender was already on a yellow card when he stopped Sturridge in full flight using his right arm in the 29th minute, with the score at 0-0. It should have been another yellow card and therefore a red for Godin yet, mysteriously, he wasn't booked at all (although England are used to having dubious refereeing decisions go against them, and it was thought strange beforehand that Fifa decided to allow a Spanish-speaking referee to officiate that game knowing full well he may well favour the Spanish-speaking side).
Godin was earlier booked in the ninth minute by referee Carlos Velasco Carballo for deliberate handball after stopping a throughball on the edge of his own penalty area - although some would say he should have been given a straight red for that.
Had Godin been sent off, Uruguay may have struggled with ten men and lost the game - and, of course, he wouldn't have scored the winner against Italy last night as he wouldn't have been playing.
Ugly scenes: Godin catches Sturridge in the throat as he attempts to stop the England striker. Yet he wasn't given a second yellow and a red
Strike one: Godin's ninth minute handball had already earned him a yellow card from the referee
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Haven't looked at a team photo lately, have you?
You've been saying that since 1972. Time to change the record.
England. . . great yesterday, great tomorrow. Shame yesterday's gone and tomorrow never comes.
Where's your evidence that black players are somehow inherently better than white players? I want proper evidence, not racism.
No, we haven't. St George's Park, which will develop, train and coach English youngsters, only opened in 2012.
France opened their equivalent, Clairefontaine, back in 1988 and, ten years later, France won their first-ever World Cup.
Just wait until the results of St George's Park start being felt in ten years' time, then let's see you harp on about a "fading power" or whatever other predictable and tired platitutdes you come up with.
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Umm. . . no. I meant the expansion of your talent pool by the inclusion of people whose ancestry is non-English is the only reason you can field even a mediocre side. The rest of it came right out of your nasty, shrivelled little BNP brain.
Yeah, so? You've ALWAYS got an excuse for why you suck, and you've ALWAYS got a promise about how you'll be great next time.
Again, where's your evidence?
A racist calling me a racist. That's ironic.
Just wait until the results of St George's Park (built on 13th Century hunting grounds) kick in. England are no longer the only major European footballing power without its own football academy. When France opened Clairefontaine in 1988 they had never won the World Cup before. Ten years later they won it. Just wait until the effects of St George's Park start being felt and we can finally start dusting down Wembley's trophy cabinet.
Umm. . . in the fact that your side includes non-whites. How are you not able to figure out if a side is, say, 1/3 non-white, that side would not be as good if the 1/3 non-whites were replaced by whites? Isn't it obvious that if the replacements were as good as the non-whites, they'd be on the side?
You're the one singing the praises of the BNP and screaming your hatred for non-whites, non-CoE, and women.
Oh, I see! You're doing Gollum! How English of you.
Sorry, I'm tired of "waiting" for England to show some talent. It's way more fun to laugh at their quadrennial humiliation (biennial if you include the Euros).
Not to me, it isn't. How many of the replacements are non-white?
And you're the one attacking the BNP, whites, the CofE and men.
You're a left-wing, bigoted, sexist racist. Have you ever thought about becoming a LibDem?
Oh. I AM sorry.
Yahoo reports that FIFA may suspend Suarez if it finds that he used his fangs to impale a player. Sure looked like it on my screen.
The action in the games have been great but sad that these distractions take away people's attention from them.
The action in the games have been great but sad that these distractions take away people's attention from them.
As I've said before, European teams traditionally tend to badly in South American World Cups. No European team has ever won a World Cup on South American soil and their win record on South American soil is poor. The South and Central American teams - including the likes of Colombia, Chile, Costa Rica and Uruguay - are dominating this South American World Cup.
Yesterday morning, the combined result of the eight clashes held so far in Brazil between Latin American and European teams was 6-2 to the Latin Americans - and then it became 7-2 when Italy lost against Uruguay. Europe's only two victories against the Latin American teams, which both came on June 15, were clinched by France and Switzerland against what are arguably Latin America’s weakest teams present at the World Cup: Honduras and Ecuador.
Italy and England were not only in, statistically, the toughest group of the tournament - it is the only group with three former World Cup winners and the only one with three teams ranked in the world Top 10 - but they also had two Latin American teams in it with them. And the two Latin American teams - not surprisingly in a Latin American World Cup - have prevailed.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that useless shower at FIFA punishing Count Suarezula. If he'd done that for Liverpool in an English competition he'd have had the book thrown at him but, knowing FIFA, they'd probably just fine him a mere £10,000 or something.
BBC Sport - Luis Suarez: PFA's Gordon Taylor fears for Liverpool player's future
Yesterday morning, the combined result of the eight clashes held so far in Brazil between Latin American and European teams was 6-2 to the Latin Americans - and then it became 7-2 when Italy lost against Uruguay. Europe's only two victories against the Latin American teams, which both came on June 15, were clinched by France and Switzerland against what are arguably Latin America’s weakest teams present at the World Cup: Honduras and Ecuador.
Italy and England were not only in, statistically, the toughest group of the tournament - it is the only group with three former World Cup winners and the only one with three teams ranked in the world Top 10 - but they also had two Latin American teams in it with them. And the two Latin American teams - not surprisingly in a Latin American World Cup - have prevailed.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that useless shower at FIFA punishing Count Suarezula. If he'd done that for Liverpool in an English competition he'd have had the book thrown at him but, knowing FIFA, they'd probably just fine him a mere £10,000 or something.
BBC Sport - Luis Suarez: PFA's Gordon Taylor fears for Liverpool player's future
Suarez had been fined before but this is going too far. Biting is an assault and has no business in the game. If FIFA finds that he did it, then he must get banned for that two year period.
I agree.
But my bet is that FIFA will go easy on him and give him a mere slap on the wrist - he's not English, you see.
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The Beeb's football expert Lawro gives his predictions, including scores, for the remaining group matches, which are being played today and tomorrow:
"What do you mean I look like a German porn star?"
Group E
Wednesday, 25 June
Ecuador v France
0-2
Honduras v Switzerland
0-2
Ecuador v France (25 June, 21:00 BST)
I am not sure France are the real deal despite the amount of goals they have scored, but it is going to take a good team to beat them.
They are very combative and competitive in midfield, have different options up front and have a very thoughtful manager in Didier Deschamps.
Honduras v Switzerland (25 June, 21:00 BST)
A win will not definitely put Switzerland through, but I think they will make the last 16 because France will beat Ecuador.
The Swiss have got a bit of firepower, and that should see off a Honduras side that have never looked capable of getting out of their group. They are quite entertaining to watch, though, because they just try to kick teams from pillar to post.
Lawro's pre-tournament picks to go through: France and Switzerland
Group F
Wednesday, 25 June
Bosnia-Herzegovina v Iran
2-0
Nigeria v Argentina
1-1
Bosnia-Herzegovina v Iran (25 June, 17:00 BST)
Iran are the team to have parked the bus in Brazil, although they were a bit unlucky to lose to Argentina in their second group game.
Generally, Carlos Queiroz is more concerned about making sure they are extremely difficult to beat, which they have been.
Bosnia-Herzegovina are already out but I don't think they will go quietly and if they create enough chances for Edin Dzeko, eventually he will take one.
Nigeria v Argentina (25 June, 17:00 BST)
Argentina are already through, and Nigeria only need a draw to join them. I think they will get it too.
They will get chances against Argentina, just like Iran did. There is more to come from Argentina but, at the moment, the little genius Lionel Messi is getting them through the games.
Lawro's pre-tournament picks to go through: Argentina and Nigeria
Group G
Thursday, 26 June
Portugal v Ghana
0-0
United States v Germany
0-2
Portugal v Ghana (26 June, 17:00 BST)
It is absolutely obvious that Cristiano Ronaldo is not fully fit and I do not rate Portugal's chances without him.
Ghana gave it a good go against Germany but their problem was they were going for individual glory rather than making sure they won the game.
United States v Germany (26 June, 17:00 BST)
The United States were probably hoping Germany had beaten Ghana and were already through by the time they played this one.
I expected the US to get a positive result against Portugal on Sunday but it could be they are depending on what happens in the other match in Group G to see whether they make it into the last 16 or not.
Lawro's pre-tournament picks to go through: Germany and the United States
Group H
Thursday, 26 June
Algeria v Russia
0-2
South Korea v Belgium
0-2
Algeria v Russia (26 June, 21:00 BST)
I was very disappointed with the Russians against South Korea. They were very wishy-washy all round and had no outstanding players on the night. I expect better from Fabio Capello's side against Algeria, though.
South Korea v Belgium (26 June, 21:00 BST)
Belgium left it late against Algeria but it showed one of their strengths - they have the depth to change the game from the bench and there are not too many teams that can do that.
South Korea are well-organised and very fit, but they have no real quality.
BBC Sport - World Cup 2014: Lawro's predictions - final group games
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I hope he's wrong about Germany beating the USA.
Remember, it was our Yanks who "beat" themselves in that last match vs Portugal in a draw that should have been a shut out win. We are fully capable of playing with Europe's best and would win if it were not for the occasional lapses, especially on defense.
Remember, it was our Yanks who "beat" themselves in that last match vs Portugal in a draw that should have been a shut out win. We are fully capable of playing with Europe's best and would win if it were not for the occasional lapses, especially on defense.
The two teams have played each other nine times (their first meeting was in June 1993), with 6 wins for Germany and 3 for the US.
There have been no draws ever between the two - although if both draw against each other tomorrow they both go through.
Their last meeting was a friendly in June 2013, which the US won 4-3.
There are generally quite a lot of goals scored when the two teams meet (two matches - the first and last - ended 4-3; one ended 4-2; one ended 4-1; two ended 3-0).
The only 1-0 was when Germany won in June 2002 in the World Cup.
Thanks for that re-cap.
It proves the USA is a legit world soccer power. The problem is that the team lacks the type of discipline European teams have where they play a full 90 minutes and then some. American players must understand that there simply is no margin for error unlike baseball or football which give you the luxury of committing errors or fumbles. When a team makes a mistake in soccer, the opponent will invariably capitalize on it and score a winner. Yanks must play with total intensity until the final whistle is blown - there simply must not be any let up (no matter how small or seemingly insignificant) until the very end of the match.
It proves the USA is a legit world soccer power. The problem is that the team lacks the type of discipline European teams have where they play a full 90 minutes and then some. American players must understand that there simply is no margin for error unlike baseball or football which give you the luxury of committing errors or fumbles. When a team makes a mistake in soccer, the opponent will invariably capitalize on it and score a winner. Yanks must play with total intensity until the final whistle is blown - there simply must not be any let up (no matter how small or seemingly insignificant) until the very end of the match.
I have noticed that the Yank players do seem very physically fit in this World Cup. Being Yanks they probably spend all the time in the gym and running along the beaches of California or Florida. They seem a lot fitter than other teams (and a lot of the Yanks are more used to the sauna-like Brazilian conditions than, say, European players), so it's unlikely they will ever have an opponent tiring them out in this World Cup by having them chase the ball for 80 minutes and then, when they are knackered, score two goals in the last ten minutes. Lawro himself noticed whilst co-commenting their game against Portugal that one or two of the Yanks didn't even have a sweat on in the hot conditions. I'm not saying that all this will help the USA win the World Cup, just that it'll be hard to wear the team down in games.
World Cup: Does US really have the most fans in Brazil?
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25 June 2014
BBC News
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The country where the most World Cup match tickets were bought, outside Brazil, was the US. Why, asks Tom Geoghegan.
Nearly 200,000 match tickets were bought in the US, which comes as some surprise given that "soccer" is still way behind US sports in popularity. The next biggest market was Argentina, a long way behind, followed by Germany, England and Colombia, according to Fifa.
The number of US fans travelling overseas isn't surprising to Christopher Harris, editor and publisher of WorldSoccerTalk.com. "US Soccer has done a fantastic job marketing to the audience, who have disposable income, love sports and don't mind spending thousands of dollars to support their country."
Soccer is a perfect embodiment of American patriotism, he says, with very few US sports having a national sports team that can compete with the best in the world.
A major reason for the recent increase in travelling fans is the growing popularity of the American Outlaws supporters group, says Harris, which has 135 chapters nationwide and flew three charter planes to Brazil. There, they have outnumbered most other fans, inside and outside the stadiums. Not long ago, it was hard to find the USA football shirt in shops, now they're ubiquitous in Brazil. One long-time USA fan, Jason Burak, told Slate the transformation has made him well up.
Whether they are the biggest group is hard to say as so many fans travel without tickets. In Germany in 2006, it was widely believed that England fans formed the largest horde, with police estimating that 70,000 made the trip. There's also the likelihood that many of the tickets bought in the US were by fans of other countries, says leading football commentator Allen Hopkins. "We are a melting pot and although fans will identify as Americans, they may go to Brazil to support Mexico or Costa Rica and support the US on a secondary basis."
But there's little doubt that football has become "cool", says Hopkins, and Brazil has a particular allure for Americans, as the "Mecca" of football and a great place to party.
At the scene - Franz Strasser, BBC News, Rio
The US fans are here, they are visible and so loud that they draw puzzled looks from locals and other tourists alike.
On non-game days, you will hear the American accents in restaurants up and down Copacabana and Ipanema beaches, but when the US team plays, the streets are filled with stars-and-stripe Speedos, red and blue Mohicans and continuous chants of "U S A! U S A!"
In the viewing areas, when Spain or Netherlands play, the atmosphere is joyous and relaxed, but when Klinsmann's team kicks off, thousands of US fans fill the beach-side viewing party and it's more like a sold-out rock concert.
Hailing from all over the US, some boast "soccer" knowledge rivalling the post-game analysts, others are just here "to have fun". Rio has noticed, the Americans are in town. Argentina and Chile fans are also highly visible but the number of US fans could surpass even them.
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Top 10 ticket buyers
1. Brazil - 1,363,179
2. US - 196,838
3. Argentina - 61,021
4. Germany - 58,778
5. England - 57,917
6. Colombia - 54,477
7. Australia - 52,289
8. Chile - 38,638
9. France - 34,865
10. Mexico - 33,694
Source: Fifa
BBC News - World Cup: Does US really have the most fans in Brazil?
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Argentina 3
Nigeria 2
tough match and a good one
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As for USA fans, it's what I've been saying all along - there are FAR more soccer fans than many suppose. Been watching the sport for over 50 years and have known fans in NY who do not watch NFL because they love soccer so much more.
Nigeria 2
tough match and a good one
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As for USA fans, it's what I've been saying all along - there are FAR more soccer fans than many suppose. Been watching the sport for over 50 years and have known fans in NY who do not watch NFL because they love soccer so much more.
I didn't watch this afternoon's matches. At the moment I'm nervous as heck about tomorrow's match against Germany. The USA can definitely win but we must play with great intensity. One good thing about the match is that we have Hulkamania on our side:
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